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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 23:29:04
October 04 2012 23:27 GMT
#3021
On October 05 2012 08:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 08:21 Slusher wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:15 Zdrastochye wrote:
Well, now at least when M5 destroys iG I can at least say I saw this coming since before they even drew M5. It should be an interesting game, much like Game 1.


even if they do lose, unless it looks like the games in the finals of the eu regional it ain't no thang, like I would be really surprised if anyone other than m5 / iG / Frost wins this thing so losing to m5 in a non stomp really proves nothing to me.


Where I disagree with you good sir is that I'd be surprised if iG even made it to the finals. Like... I'd offer myself up for public humiliation if they did beat M5. And I should be publicly humiliated if they do advance, but they won't so I'm about as cool as Tim Tebow right now.

The thing is, iG is the team that has the highest likelihood of performing an upset because of their wide variance in playstyles and play ability. A team like WE or CLG.EU plays safe and conservative--but when you're the weaker team (which pretty much everyone is when facing M5) playing safe and conservative is just a slow path to losing the game.

It's a team that's wild and unpredictable that has chances to upset, and that's why iG has a better chance than most against M5, even though their overall ability might be weaker.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 04 2012 23:28 GMT
#3022
On October 05 2012 08:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 08:21 Slusher wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:15 Zdrastochye wrote:
Well, now at least when M5 destroys iG I can at least say I saw this coming since before they even drew M5. It should be an interesting game, much like Game 1.


even if they do lose, unless it looks like the games in the finals of the eu regional it ain't no thang, like I would be really surprised if anyone other than m5 / iG / Frost wins this thing so losing to m5 in a non stomp really proves nothing to me.


Where I disagree with you good sir is that I'd be surprised if iG even made it to the finals. Like... I'd offer myself up for public humiliation if they did beat M5. And I should be publicly humiliated if they do advance, but they won't so I'm about as cool as Tim Tebow right now.

Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 08:23 TheYango wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:19 Zdrastochye wrote:
No but really, I just think they're overhyped, and despite being very good - better than all NA teams cept for TSM, they're going to go down to M5, but really they would have gone down to anyone.

The main thing I disagree with is the fact that you're saying iG is not good enough to beat these teams. It's not going to be a walkover. They're not the favorites, but given the absolutely insane play iG is capable of executing when they really turn it on (of course accompanied by the possibility for insane throws) means they CAN win. They only need to take 2 games out of a Bo3.

Against M5, CLG.EU, Frost, or Sword, I would call IG the underdog against all these teams. But against none of them would I say they're incapable of winning like you have.


And them outplaying Frost so hard for the first 15 minutes of their first game, and then complete and utter throw (mostly on the merit of Leona) just kinda underlines the fact that they're big choke artists, much like the second rate teams that I compare them to.


Rooting for m5 but imma call you out on this one just like reddit called out that footsucking guybin case iG wins since i have nothing to lose
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 04 2012 23:28 GMT
#3023
On October 05 2012 08:27 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 08:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:21 Slusher wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:15 Zdrastochye wrote:
Well, now at least when M5 destroys iG I can at least say I saw this coming since before they even drew M5. It should be an interesting game, much like Game 1.


even if they do lose, unless it looks like the games in the finals of the eu regional it ain't no thang, like I would be really surprised if anyone other than m5 / iG / Frost wins this thing so losing to m5 in a non stomp really proves nothing to me.


Where I disagree with you good sir is that I'd be surprised if iG even made it to the finals. Like... I'd offer myself up for public humiliation if they did beat M5. And I should be publicly humiliated if they do advance, but they won't so I'm about as cool as Tim Tebow right now.


then I think your ability to judge talent about as good as HotshotGG is at jungling.


We'll see when iG plays M5 then won't we?
Hey! How you doin'?
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 04 2012 23:28 GMT
#3024
On October 05 2012 08:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 08:21 Slusher wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:15 Zdrastochye wrote:
Well, now at least when M5 destroys iG I can at least say I saw this coming since before they even drew M5. It should be an interesting game, much like Game 1.


even if they do lose, unless it looks like the games in the finals of the eu regional it ain't no thang, like I would be really surprised if anyone other than m5 / iG / Frost wins this thing so losing to m5 in a non stomp really proves nothing to me.


Where I disagree with you good sir is that I'd be surprised if iG even made it to the finals. Like... I'd offer myself up for public humiliation if they did beat M5. And I should be publicly humiliated if they do advance, but they won't so I'm about as cool as Tim Tebow right now.


Quoting this in case iG wins tomorrow.

I think that M5 is gonna win. But people in the LoL community aren't giving iG enough respect. I mean, fucking reddit predicted Frost/CLGna to advance. Which was obvious fanboyism but lol.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
October 04 2012 23:29 GMT
#3025
On October 05 2012 08:27 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 08:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:21 Slusher wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:15 Zdrastochye wrote:
Well, now at least when M5 destroys iG I can at least say I saw this coming since before they even drew M5. It should be an interesting game, much like Game 1.


even if they do lose, unless it looks like the games in the finals of the eu regional it ain't no thang, like I would be really surprised if anyone other than m5 / iG / Frost wins this thing so losing to m5 in a non stomp really proves nothing to me.


Where I disagree with you good sir is that I'd be surprised if iG even made it to the finals. Like... I'd offer myself up for public humiliation if they did beat M5. And I should be publicly humiliated if they do advance, but they won't so I'm about as cool as Tim Tebow right now.

The thing is, iG is the team that has the highest likelihood of performing an upset because of their wide variance in playstyles and play ability. A team like WE plays safe and conservative--but when you're the weaker team (which pretty much everyone is when facing M5) playing safe and conservative is just a slow path to losing the game.

It's a team that's wild and unpredictable that has chances to upset, and that's why iG has a better chance than most against M5, even though their overall ability might be weaker.
As a Dota player I find this statement really funny as you'd usually be saying the opposite thing about a Chinese team vs a Russian.
Once you Goblak...
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
October 04 2012 23:29 GMT
#3026
iG is going to beat M5. How could people actually think M5 is gonna win?
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
October 04 2012 23:29 GMT
#3027
On October 05 2012 08:24 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
This thread needs more Dignitas fanboyism. Even though I don't know half their players now ^_^


You're a pretty poor excuse for a fanboy.

I've been with Dig since the scumbag Jatt days.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
October 04 2012 23:29 GMT
#3028
10 min on countdown, which probably means the stream starts in about 1 hour
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 04 2012 23:29 GMT
#3029
On October 05 2012 08:29 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 08:27 TheYango wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:21 Slusher wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:15 Zdrastochye wrote:
Well, now at least when M5 destroys iG I can at least say I saw this coming since before they even drew M5. It should be an interesting game, much like Game 1.


even if they do lose, unless it looks like the games in the finals of the eu regional it ain't no thang, like I would be really surprised if anyone other than m5 / iG / Frost wins this thing so losing to m5 in a non stomp really proves nothing to me.


Where I disagree with you good sir is that I'd be surprised if iG even made it to the finals. Like... I'd offer myself up for public humiliation if they did beat M5. And I should be publicly humiliated if they do advance, but they won't so I'm about as cool as Tim Tebow right now.

The thing is, iG is the team that has the highest likelihood of performing an upset because of their wide variance in playstyles and play ability. A team like WE plays safe and conservative--but when you're the weaker team (which pretty much everyone is when facing M5) playing safe and conservative is just a slow path to losing the game.

It's a team that's wild and unpredictable that has chances to upset, and that's why iG has a better chance than most against M5, even though their overall ability might be weaker.
As a Dota player I find this statement really funny as you'd usually be saying the opposite thing about a Chinese team vs a Russian.

I'm well aware of the irony here, lol.
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theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
October 04 2012 23:30 GMT
#3030
Cool as Tim Tebow? Not a very good choice...
Less money for casters, more money for players.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 04 2012 23:31 GMT
#3031
On October 05 2012 08:29 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 08:24 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
This thread needs more Dignitas fanboyism. Even though I don't know half their players now ^_^


You're a pretty poor excuse for a fanboy.

I've been with Dig since the scumbag Jatt days.

And how many of those players ARE still dig?
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 04 2012 23:31 GMT
#3032
On October 05 2012 08:29 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 08:24 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
This thread needs more Dignitas fanboyism. Even though I don't know half their players now ^_^


You're a pretty poor excuse for a fanboy.

I've been with Dig since the scumbag Jatt days.


I laughed. I've been a fanboy since before they were Dignitas ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 04 2012 23:31 GMT
#3033
On October 05 2012 08:29 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 08:27 TheYango wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:21 Slusher wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:15 Zdrastochye wrote:
Well, now at least when M5 destroys iG I can at least say I saw this coming since before they even drew M5. It should be an interesting game, much like Game 1.


even if they do lose, unless it looks like the games in the finals of the eu regional it ain't no thang, like I would be really surprised if anyone other than m5 / iG / Frost wins this thing so losing to m5 in a non stomp really proves nothing to me.


Where I disagree with you good sir is that I'd be surprised if iG even made it to the finals. Like... I'd offer myself up for public humiliation if they did beat M5. And I should be publicly humiliated if they do advance, but they won't so I'm about as cool as Tim Tebow right now.

The thing is, iG is the team that has the highest likelihood of performing an upset because of their wide variance in playstyles and play ability. A team like WE plays safe and conservative--but when you're the weaker team (which pretty much everyone is when facing M5) playing safe and conservative is just a slow path to losing the game.

It's a team that's wild and unpredictable that has chances to upset, and that's why iG has a better chance than most against M5, even though their overall ability might be weaker.
As a Dota player I find this statement really funny as you'd usually be saying the opposite thing about a Chinese team vs a Russian.


I read this and instantly pictured Lightofheaven laughing his ass off as they pick juggernaut blind after a 15 min loss in game 1 at TI2
Carrilord has arrived.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 23:32:26
October 04 2012 23:31 GMT
#3034
On October 05 2012 08:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 08:29 Ferrose wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:24 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
This thread needs more Dignitas fanboyism. Even though I don't know half their players now ^_^


You're a pretty poor excuse for a fanboy.

I've been with Dig since the scumbag Jatt days.

And how many of those players ARE still dig?


Two.

Wasn't L0CUST the one who came up with all their crazy strats too? ((((
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
October 04 2012 23:32 GMT
#3035
On October 05 2012 08:31 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 08:29 teapoted wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:27 TheYango wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:21 Slusher wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:15 Zdrastochye wrote:
Well, now at least when M5 destroys iG I can at least say I saw this coming since before they even drew M5. It should be an interesting game, much like Game 1.


even if they do lose, unless it looks like the games in the finals of the eu regional it ain't no thang, like I would be really surprised if anyone other than m5 / iG / Frost wins this thing so losing to m5 in a non stomp really proves nothing to me.


Where I disagree with you good sir is that I'd be surprised if iG even made it to the finals. Like... I'd offer myself up for public humiliation if they did beat M5. And I should be publicly humiliated if they do advance, but they won't so I'm about as cool as Tim Tebow right now.

The thing is, iG is the team that has the highest likelihood of performing an upset because of their wide variance in playstyles and play ability. A team like WE plays safe and conservative--but when you're the weaker team (which pretty much everyone is when facing M5) playing safe and conservative is just a slow path to losing the game.

It's a team that's wild and unpredictable that has chances to upset, and that's why iG has a better chance than most against M5, even though their overall ability might be weaker.
As a Dota player I find this statement really funny as you'd usually be saying the opposite thing about a Chinese team vs a Russian.


I read this and instantly pictured Lightofheaven laughing his ass off as they pick juggernaut blind after a 15 min loss in game 1 at TI2

PDD Fiora incoming.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 04 2012 23:32 GMT
#3036
On October 05 2012 08:29 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 08:29 teapoted wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:27 TheYango wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:21 Slusher wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:15 Zdrastochye wrote:
Well, now at least when M5 destroys iG I can at least say I saw this coming since before they even drew M5. It should be an interesting game, much like Game 1.


even if they do lose, unless it looks like the games in the finals of the eu regional it ain't no thang, like I would be really surprised if anyone other than m5 / iG / Frost wins this thing so losing to m5 in a non stomp really proves nothing to me.


Where I disagree with you good sir is that I'd be surprised if iG even made it to the finals. Like... I'd offer myself up for public humiliation if they did beat M5. And I should be publicly humiliated if they do advance, but they won't so I'm about as cool as Tim Tebow right now.

The thing is, iG is the team that has the highest likelihood of performing an upset because of their wide variance in playstyles and play ability. A team like WE plays safe and conservative--but when you're the weaker team (which pretty much everyone is when facing M5) playing safe and conservative is just a slow path to losing the game.

It's a team that's wild and unpredictable that has chances to upset, and that's why iG has a better chance than most against M5, even though their overall ability might be weaker.
As a Dota player I find this statement really funny as you'd usually be saying the opposite thing about a Chinese team vs a Russian.

I'm well aware of the irony here, lol.


I'm loving how now a person with a Russnglish name now has to cheer for a Russian team. :D EMPIRE!
Hey! How you doin'?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 23:32:50
October 04 2012 23:32 GMT
#3037
On October 05 2012 08:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
And them outplaying Frost so hard for the first 15 minutes of their first game, and then complete and utter throw (mostly on the merit of Leona) just kinda underlines the fact that they're big choke artists, much like the second rate teams that I compare them to.

See, this is the thing. iG is capable of big plays. They are also capable of big throws. But with the quality of their big plays, they only need to not throw twice to win.

As opposed to a team that plays safe and conservative and doesn't make those big plays and just slowly loses to M5 two times in a row because their fundamentals just aren't as good as M5's. Which would describe a LOT of these teams going against M5.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 04 2012 23:32 GMT
#3038
I wonder if Scarra has improved after regional... He didn't stream as much after regional. Scarra use to be really good in midlane, but his play in regional was questionable at best. He got schooled by Regi, straight up, which is pretty sad.
liftlift > tsm
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
October 04 2012 23:33 GMT
#3039
gogo clg eu! The foreign hope (one of three).
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 23:35:07
October 04 2012 23:34 GMT
#3040
On October 05 2012 08:31 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 08:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:29 Ferrose wrote:
On October 05 2012 08:24 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
This thread needs more Dignitas fanboyism. Even though I don't know half their players now ^_^


You're a pretty poor excuse for a fanboy.

I've been with Dig since the scumbag Jatt days.

And how many of those players ARE still dig?


Two.

Wasn't L0CUST the one who came up with all their crazy strats too? ((((


It was Jatt. Jatt is like the reason why RS/Dignitas dominated NA for a few months. Unless you're talking about that Lulu/Soraka thing, I dunno who came up with that. But the double assassin comp and some of the other weird comps they used to run were Jatt.

Back when he was on WHALE with Guardsman Bob they'd run some stupid all bruiser comp with like Warwick middle and a double bruiser kill lane bot. They actually beat TSM in a go4lol with it one time.
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