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YouControlBad
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland46 Posts
August 30 2012 19:23 GMT
#421
Why pick lulu when they had karthus? Soraka would be so much better to counter heal that ulti. Just waht I think.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
August 30 2012 19:23 GMT
#422
Aphromoo left Evo because of lack of practice. Curse practice and teamhouse training really showing.
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 30 2012 19:23 GMT
#423
On August 31 2012 04:22 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 04:21 Schmieds wrote:
jacky and cop too big I guess? Or just bad teamfighting by evo?

That, and I don't think Lulu turned out to be a good pick for this game. IMO Janna would've been better both in lane and in teamfights....

Lulu I think was fine, but a lot of her skills were wasted just trying to survive rather than win team fights. Janna would have been a good pick too, but the Lulu pick wasn't bad I think.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
August 30 2012 19:23 GMT
#424
Started lagging heavily about 5 minutes ago. Germany Firefox.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 30 2012 19:23 GMT
#425
On August 31 2012 04:22 TheKefka wrote:
Why do people let Khartus get his farm and just get by during lane phase so easy,are NA teams that allergic to gragas play?


What do you mean?

You can't really stop Karthus from farming...
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
August 30 2012 19:24 GMT
#426
Mashme meh. Feel like that woulda been a different game with Aphro.
God Bless
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 19:25:19
August 30 2012 19:24 GMT
#427
edit: moved my post to the more appropriate thread. Didn't mean to post here at all. >.>
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 19:25:10
August 30 2012 19:24 GMT
#428
EDIT: He moved it =P
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 30 2012 19:25 GMT
#429
On August 31 2012 04:23 YouControlBad wrote:
Why pick lulu when they had karthus? Soraka would be so much better to counter heal that ulti. Just waht I think.

Karthus picked after Lulu.
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Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 30 2012 19:25 GMT
#430
I can't even imagine how much money Riot is going to make off these ads... 85k and it's only game 1 of ro8 and prime time in EU, not USA.
derp
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 30 2012 19:25 GMT
#431
On August 31 2012 04:24 Roffles wrote:
Mashme meh. Feel like that woulda been a different game with Aphro.


Definitely. Not many ADs left in NA to choose from however.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 30 2012 19:25 GMT
#432
Stream Sound/Video is completely out of synch, with Video lagging occasionally and then rubberbanding. Firefox, Austria. I don't usually have problems on ustream, so I suppose it's the viewer numbers (a.k.a. server overload)

I'll have to watch muted, because the soundeffects being >10 seconds ahead of the video gives me multiple tumors in various areas of my body.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
August 30 2012 19:25 GMT
#433
I think having Aphromoo and Nhat in the bot lane covered up for alot of TSM.evo's issues. I think Dontmashme is a good AD but he's not at Aphro's level.

/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 30 2012 19:25 GMT
#434
On August 31 2012 04:24 Roffles wrote:
Mashme meh. Feel like that woulda been a different game with Aphro.

The loss of Aphromoo has been the biggest blow to TSM.Evo since Dyrus left I feel.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 30 2012 19:25 GMT
#435
On August 31 2012 04:22 HPoirot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 04:20 kainzero wrote:
isn't this typical evo?

win early, fail at teamfighting


I hate that they've become the exact opposite of Epik. Bring back Salce/Dan combo zzz.

Losing aphro sucked for them. Salce didn't get many great ganks off (there was the one great countergank on Rumble... and that's it. He teled top twice in random places and I guess one of them did net a tower as the kills escaped, but he needs to secure manpower advantage with that ult, and it just wasn't happening.

Salce and Mash are the weak points of TSM Evo IMO.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
August 30 2012 19:25 GMT
#436
Unless Karthus is poor (like me), it is almost impossible to stop him from farming. His Q + E = almost infinite mana, very easy to last hit too.

To stop him from farming, you need to kill karthus. And that can only work in public games, where enemy team doesn't know how to protect karthus (which is why I love playing against Karthus : my opponents are rarely good with him)
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
August 30 2012 19:25 GMT
#437
needs maorrr viewers!!!!
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3238 Posts
August 30 2012 19:26 GMT
#438
Elementz realy grown after the "Ill kick u so hard and replace you"
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
August 30 2012 19:26 GMT
#439
On August 31 2012 04:21 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 04:20 Doctorbeat wrote:
GG. Evo not looking up to snuff. The individual class is there, but the teamplay from Crs is waaaay better.

I dunno - it's the individual class I'm having issues with. Mash was getting grabbed repeatedly in lane by Elementz, and that let Cop get out of control. Cop is a quite strong mechanical AD carry and if you give him an advantage like that he WILL run away with it.

Elementz has finally really polished his play, and I think theres a lot of good synergy between Cop and Elementz too.

TBH that's a result of their picks. Tristana is horrible at lane control because of her E passive. She needs a super strong aggressive support instead of wimpy Lulu to win the lane. And Unstoppable played so many things wrong this game.
Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
August 30 2012 19:26 GMT
#440
Problem is Unstoppable couldn't get too much rolling early game and so he fell behind largely in levels while not getting much return on his teammates. That first dragon fight had Alistar at 8 when Blitz/Nunu at 10 and Karthus/TF at 14. Not to mention all the bad headbutts, but when your Alistar is really down in levels as your only effective tank, you have no tank.

Curse having a good showing so far.
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