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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 14 2012 19:52 GMT
#21
As much as I love Froggen, I don't want CLG to win. Froggen deserves to be on a team, not to be carrying the shit out of 4 others.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 14 2012 19:55 GMT
#22
??

All of CLG.eu's roles are well-rounded. Froggen carries because he's Froggen. Take any CLG.eu and put them on another team and 90% of the time, it's an upgrade. Why the hate?
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 14 2012 19:58 GMT
#23
Froggen is amazing, but CLG EU's other roles are by no means bad. Yellowpete / Krepo are solid... just not as solid as the best in the world (I would place them as "slightly less solid than Chauster/Doublelift"... which isn't saying much) Snoopeh has always been a strong jungler... Wickd is inconsistent top, but sometimes man-modes it up and carries hard. And seriously, what top laners AREN'T inconsistent, with how incredibly snowballrific the top lane is?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 14 2012 20:02 GMT
#24
The only role that I can honestly think of ragging CLG.eu on is Top but even so Wickd has the potential to run hot. I mean if you have top tier NA Top laners, like Dyrus, looking up to you, you can't be doing much wrong.
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 14 2012 20:07 GMT
#25
One of the problems for the players on CLG.EU is simply the fact that Froggen is so godly. Krepo is a really great support player and makes good calls. His Leona is also fun to watch. However being A-Tier or semi S-Tier means nothing when you have an SS-Tier player on your team. I guess it's similar to how Chauster never really recieved the limelight since it's so much easier to rave about DLift's micro.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 20:09:55
August 14 2012 20:09 GMT
#26
On August 15 2012 05:07 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
One of the problems for the players on CLG.EU is simply the fact that Froggen is so godly. Krepo is a really great support player and makes good calls. His Leona is also fun to watch. However being A-Tier or semi S-Tier means nothing when you have an SS-Tier player on your team. I guess it's similar to how Chauster never really recieved the limelight since it's so much easier to rave about DLift's micro.

Did you just call Chauster A/S-tier and Doublelift SS-tier?

If anything it's the other way around.
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 14 2012 20:12 GMT
#27
On August 15 2012 05:09 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 05:07 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
One of the problems for the players on CLG.EU is simply the fact that Froggen is so godly. Krepo is a really great support player and makes good calls. His Leona is also fun to watch. However being A-Tier or semi S-Tier means nothing when you have an SS-Tier player on your team. I guess it's similar to how Chauster never really recieved the limelight since it's so much easier to rave about DLift's micro.

Did you just call Chauster A/S-tier and Doublelift SS-tier?

If anything it's the other way around.

My appologies. I meant that Chauster is a great player but it's easier to focus on what DLift does instead. So Chauster gets shadowed as a result.

In the same way, players like Krepo get shadowed by Froggen. Although Chauster is better than DLift, while I wouldn't call Krepo better than Froggen. The comparison was about who gets the spotlight and not skill in this instance. Sorry. :<
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 14 2012 20:15 GMT
#28
how do you compare two people who play different roles
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 14 2012 20:27 GMT
#29
It's a subjective comparison.
If we're talking about Doublelift and Chauster, we've see how Doublelift used to play prior to his rejoining of CLG.na. Beautiful micro along with 1200 elo decision making. Since then, liftlift has refined his play and looks exceptional at times.

Chauster is Chauster. imo, he's the most well-rounded LoL player in the world. If you've ever seen CLG scrim or listen to their vent, Chau is the shotcaller for CLG's bot lane.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 14 2012 20:27 GMT
#30
I'm looking to see Team Acer make it to the 3rd place match, I really like PukiStyle, dunno if they can make it happen tho.
Carrilord has arrived.
Leonite7
Profile Joined July 2011
Ireland921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 21:05:03
August 14 2012 21:04 GMT
#31
Oops wrong thread sorry. Mods please delete.
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
August 14 2012 21:26 GMT
#32
On August 15 2012 02:36 sylverfyre wrote:
Predicting CLG > M5 > ..I dont know, I feel like someone is going to dark horse it up. Let's wild guess Alternate. I always liked their tag (atn) because I think ATTENTION: [username] whenever I see it.


Alternate can't qualify if CLG does lol

Predicting M5/CLG/ (Fnatic or SK)
Go go Alliance.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
August 14 2012 21:28 GMT
#33
Two questions:
1. Why did they get rid of the best caster the world has ever seen? (<3 DanielZKlein)
2. Crs is 5th seed, yet they play fnatic (3rd seed) instead of sk (4th seed). What gives? My understanding of top eights has always been
1 plays 8
2 plays 7
3 plays 6
4 plays 5
instead it's
3 plays 5
4 plays 6
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9118 Posts
August 14 2012 21:32 GMT
#34
On August 15 2012 06:28 Dgiese wrote:
2. Crs is 5th seed, yet they play fnatic (3rd seed) instead of sk (4th seed).

SK is 3rd seed, Fnatic 4th, Curse 5th.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 14 2012 21:32 GMT
#35
SK is 3rd Seed after their third place finish at ECC: Poland which brought them above Fnatic by 50 points.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
August 14 2012 21:52 GMT
#36
Predicting M5/CLG/ (Fnatic or SK)

Agree would actually rate sk > fnatic at this state but that is kinda open could be taken by possibly acer or curse aswell (though esp acer is not performing too hot would prolly rate curse higher then fnatic atm)
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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9118 Posts
August 14 2012 22:07 GMT
#37
RiotMagus somewhat indirectly confirmed that ButButButILY won't be casting either.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
August 14 2012 22:19 GMT
#38
Ok, then some of the info in the OP is incorrect.
Fnatic is listed as 3rd seed and SK is listed as 4th under the
List of Competing Teams and Roster by Seed
section.
Otherwise, fantastic OP as always. One other piece of constructive criticism, maybe list the team names next to their logos in the thurs. friday etc sections. It's not always immediately clear who a team is from their logo. I mean, it's not a big deal, it only takes a few seconds to check when scanning through the OP, but just thought I'd mention it.
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
August 14 2012 22:34 GMT
#39
On August 15 2012 05:07 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
One of the problems for the players on CLG.EU is simply the fact that Froggen is so godly. Krepo is a really great support player and makes good calls. His Leona is also fun to watch. However being A-Tier or semi S-Tier means nothing when you have an SS-Tier player on your team. I guess it's similar to how Chauster never really recieved the limelight since it's so much easier to rave about DLift's micro.


Reading quite a lot of reddit/TL/youtube comments, Krepo is getting more and more recognition, thanks to SotL and quite some interviews (always being called a sensible and kind person). Also, flash-banana.
But I sometimes feel bad for yellowpete, his name is barely mentioned anywhere although he's playing quite solidly.

Gogo CLG.eu!
"My spoon is too big."
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
August 14 2012 22:54 GMT
#40
I really wish these regional qualifiers were double elim. Sure alternate or elohell probably aren't good enough to beat clg.eu or m5, but they could very well have a decent shot at beating the other teams for that all important third. And what about if the unthinkable happens and m5 or clg eu lose in the first round? thats it man, game over.

I like that teams only have to play one match a day, so they are rested for each match, but I would far rather see more matches with less rest and prep time if it meant double elim and a much lower risk of variance.
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