Fnatic showing their win at DH wasn't just a fluke, remember how much EU crushed NA that tourney too? What do you want to bet NA will crush the next big tourney, seeing as it always seems to flip flop like that.

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Bearded Elder29904 Posts

October 16 2011 21:30 GMT

#3327

I wanna bet on that.

Redox

Germany24794 Posts

October 16 2011 21:35 GMT

#3328

On October 17 2011 06:26 Zdrastochye wrote:
Fnatic showing their win at DH wasn't just a fluke, remember how much EU crushed NA that tourney too? What do you want to bet NA will crush the next big tourney, seeing as it always seems to flip flop like that.

I dont know, I have my doubts after that. I mean we have seen either NA or EU dominating in former tournaments, but never a stomp like this one.

crate

United States2474 Posts

October 16 2011 21:36 GMT

#3329

On October 17 2011 06:35 Redox wrote:

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I dont know, I have my doubts after that. I mean we have seen either NA or EU dominating in former tournaments, but never a stomp like this one.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255732

NA lost 2 games against EU at Gamescom (you can say 4 if you want to count the EMS finals I suppose, but that's technically a different event).

Redox

Germany24794 Posts

October 16 2011 21:44 GMT

#3330

On October 17 2011 06:36 crate wrote:

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Yeah I know. But it just didnt look as dominating as Fnatic (and to a lesser degree SK) looked here. I mean Fnatic didnt drop a single game, and it never even looked close.
Thats why I just have a hard time imagining them getting stomped next tourney.

But I guess you are right, in the end anything can happen.

Lysteria

France2280 Posts

October 16 2011 21:53 GMT

#3331

I'm really impressed by Mellisan once again, He plays support wonderfully, almost never make any mistake and babysit his carry like a boss.

overt

United States9006 Posts

October 16 2011 22:00 GMT

#3332

On October 17 2011 06:44 Redox wrote:

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I only got to see day one as I've been traveling all weekend and am too exhausted to watch LoL vods. I'll try and catch up on the games I think I'll enjoy.

I want to see Fnatic be at more tournaments. I'm glad that SK was actually able to do better than 4th at a live event for once. I actually think that it's hilarious how poorly TSM has been performing lately. CLG still seems strong despite the fourth place but what happened with them against Sypher? Did they get out picked, straight up outplayed, or what? Looks like Sypher is a team to take seriously, beating both Curse and CLG.

Defury

Germany206 Posts

October 16 2011 22:36 GMT

#3333

125k viewers is absolutely phenomenal thoroughly impressed.

OreoBoi

Canada1639 Posts

October 16 2011 22:42 GMT

#3334

On October 17 2011 07:00 overt wrote:

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Sypher played very well and I think CLG really just wants to get it over with. I'm pretty sure they just want to go home at this point.

Emnel

Greece384 Posts

October 16 2011 22:43 GMT

#3335

Gamescom was a bit rough for Fnatic, since it happend 4 weeks after EU servers split when 2 members of their team were stuck on one and 3 others on another, and since transfers werent possible till like few days before Gamescom they weren't able to play togather for a long time.

And Gamescom was the only big tournament they even lost a game (they weren't in china tho). And as someone said here they not just won - they simply dominated every single game from like 10-15 minute mark onwards. I'm p. sure they are #1 atm by a long margin.

Sypher played very well and I think CLG really just wants to get it over with. I'm pretty sure they just want to go home at this point.

Well - 1st 65 minute long game proves otherwise...
In 1st game they simply outpicked Sypher taking this poke comp with nida, sona and trundle and thx to numerous mistakes sypher made finally won the game.
In second they were outpicked, outfarmed and outplayed. Nasus and Karthus left unchecked stomped them.
In last one they didnt ban nasus but focused on shutting him down (zil slow, gp speed up, vayne condemn, cho etc.) while Sypher knowing they can't end games fast (like fnatic for example) responded with sick lategame comp with nasus and trist, and after about 40 minutes when it looked like CLG is in driver seat, outplayed them, used that edge crushed them and finished game. All that in like 2-3 minutes.

Roffles

Pitcairn19291 Posts

October 16 2011 23:16 GMT

#3336

On October 17 2011 06:53 Lysteria wrote:
I'm really impressed by Mellisan once again, He plays support wonderfully, almost never make any mistake and babysit his carry like a boss.

Damn right. Mellisan really impressive. That Janna ult in the first game when they tried diving him under the tower was really sick.

soulpoetry

United Kingdom177 Posts

October 16 2011 23:46 GMT

#3337

On October 17 2011 07:43 Emnel wrote:

In last one they didnt ban nasus but focused on shutting him down (zil slow, gp speed up, vayne condemn, cho etc.) while Sypher knowing they can't end games fast (like fnatic for example) responded with sick lategame comp with nasus and trist, and after about 40 minutes when it looked like CLG is in driver seat, outplayed them, used that edge crushed them and finished game. All that in like 2-3 minutes.

it was fairly even til that baron fight where SV was nearby on GP, CLG could have given it up and defended but went in in a bad spot anyway, that was the turning point.

Emnel

Greece384 Posts

October 17 2011 00:00 GMT

#3338

Y, that p. much what i ment. My point was that from the very moment they got the edge they went for the throat and executed it in few minutes. Same things (inhibitior turret/nexus 5vs5 dives) were done by other EU teams, while US really prefer to play safe when they are ahead. CLG in that last game quite ahead for a long time, but never pushed the adventage letting Syphers late game to kick in.
Remember what Skyyart told in interview yesterday, that they couldnt go for Nasus or other lategame champ vs. Fnatic, bc they are mid game team, and they d never see that late game of theirs. CLG on the other hand seem to have such a trouble to finish their games so even absurd comps like Nasus-Tristana work perfectly. I don't know why it is so - hey cant see bigger picture, don't have balls or coordination to pull those thngs of, but it's for sure one of their bigger problems, when compared to EU.

Blitzkrieg0

United States13132 Posts

October 17 2011 00:18 GMT

#3339

The first game was so close you can't really say CLG or Sypher dominated at all. Nobody will ever know how that fight would have went if Kog'Maw decided to attack the champions instead of the towers.