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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 05 2011 05:53 GMT
#2701
On October 05 2011 14:45 Two_DoWn wrote:
I guess I should have clarified- since when is cho a tank and not a bruiser. Dude deals a TON of damage with straight tank items. Which is kind of the definition of a bruiser.


I think the definitions of Brusier/Tank overlap a lot. Malph and Galio can both do good damage too. Not as much as Cho but still.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 05 2011 05:53 GMT
#2702
On October 05 2011 14:52 TheYango wrote:
A champion whose kit is only good for taking damage is a bad champion.

poor shen
Translator:3
Drekor
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada38 Posts
October 05 2011 05:54 GMT
#2703
On October 05 2011 14:45 Two_DoWn wrote:
I guess I should have clarified- since when is cho a tank and not a bruiser. Dude deals a TON of damage with straight tank items. Which is kind of the definition of a bruiser.

That's just arguing semantics.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 05:56:35
October 05 2011 05:55 GMT
#2704
On October 05 2011 14:53 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 14:52 TheYango wrote:
A champion whose kit is only good for taking damage is a bad champion.

poor shen

A heal, a low-CD AoE CC, and a support shield that doubles as a map control spell hardly count as "only good for taking damage". I'd classify Shen as a support.

TBH the 1-5 system for categorizing champions on the scale of hard carry->hard support used in DotA is probably more informative than some of these buzzwords that people use these days.

On October 05 2011 14:54 Drekor wrote:
That's just arguing semantics.

It's a problem with the term tank. The fact that its a catch-all for at least 3 different categories of champions that do drastically different things just makes discussing the game more confusing.
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Bulldozer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States89 Posts
October 05 2011 05:55 GMT
#2705
the music for this is all over the place

GO CLG!
Welcome to the Transformation; Welcome to Anniahliation
Silverfoxx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States184 Posts
October 05 2011 05:57 GMT
#2706
On October 05 2011 14:32 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 14:31 JBright wrote:
So who's going to take over for Elementz for the finals? Ocelot? Wickd?

I would have to guess Ocelot, but I would rather have Joe return to us than that.


Hey, can anyone tell me why Elementz wouldn't be playing? I just tuned in for the final and this is news to me... >.> Also, it's buried somewhere back in the thread and I can only find recaps in the last 5 or so pages.

Thanks guys!
The fox is back.
Theoren
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada810 Posts
October 05 2011 05:58 GMT
#2707
On October 05 2011 14:57 Silverfoxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 14:32 Irave wrote:
On October 05 2011 14:31 JBright wrote:
So who's going to take over for Elementz for the finals? Ocelot? Wickd?

I would have to guess Ocelot, but I would rather have Joe return to us than that.


Hey, can anyone tell me why Elementz wouldn't be playing? I just tuned in for the final and this is news to me... >.> Also, it's buried somewhere back in the thread and I can only find recaps in the last 5 or so pages.

Thanks guys!


He is playing. He was commentating the third place match and that's what they were referring too.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 05 2011 05:59 GMT
#2708
On October 05 2011 14:57 Silverfoxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 14:32 Irave wrote:
On October 05 2011 14:31 JBright wrote:
So who's going to take over for Elementz for the finals? Ocelot? Wickd?

I would have to guess Ocelot, but I would rather have Joe return to us than that.


Hey, can anyone tell me why Elementz wouldn't be playing? I just tuned in for the final and this is news to me... >.> Also, it's buried somewhere back in the thread and I can only find recaps in the last 5 or so pages.

Thanks guys!

He means for commentating, not playing. Elementz commentated the SK v EHOME matches, and now he has to play in the finals, so we're wondering if we'll get an SK player to commentate the finals.
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Wrock Atticus
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada112 Posts
October 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#2709
Elementz is playing in the finals. He just dropped in to co-cast the 3rd place finals.
If you can't be good, be lucky!
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#2710
On October 05 2011 14:57 Silverfoxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 14:32 Irave wrote:
On October 05 2011 14:31 JBright wrote:
So who's going to take over for Elementz for the finals? Ocelot? Wickd?

I would have to guess Ocelot, but I would rather have Joe return to us than that.


Hey, can anyone tell me why Elementz wouldn't be playing? I just tuned in for the final and this is news to me... >.> Also, it's buried somewhere back in the thread and I can only find recaps in the last 5 or so pages.

Thanks guys!


Lol. Elementz was helping to cast the 3rd/4th place match. They are asking who will help Zenon cast since Elementz will be playing.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Shawngood
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany473 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 06:02:11
October 05 2011 06:00 GMT
#2711
Pre-game interviews coming up on our big stage. Chinese audience looks very excited...
@ESL_Shawn
his_shadow
Profile Joined August 2010
United States48 Posts
October 05 2011 06:01 GMT
#2712
Taking a long time to start. *sadface*
Fax mentis incendium gloria cultum. Memo bis punitor delicatum.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
October 05 2011 06:02 GMT
#2713
On October 05 2011 14:52 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 14:45 Two_DoWn wrote:
I guess I should have clarified- since when is cho a tank and not a bruiser. Dude deals a TON of damage with straight tank items. Which is kind of the definition of a bruiser.

Honestly, the term tank really doesn't fit this game at all. Because no champion's function is solely to take damage. They either provide defensive utility through CC/shields (e.g. Shen), damage/offensive utility (lots of people), or initiation. Which means it's probably easier to categorize them as bruisers/melee carries, initiators, and supports, rather than the ambiguous (and quite frankly pointless) catch-all term "tank".

A champion whose kit is only good for taking damage is a bad champion.


You're basing your idea of a tank off of mmos, and since this isn't a pve game of course that idea doesn't work. In this game, a tank is somebody who is there to be unkillable unless focused extremely hard while also putting out a good amount of disruption.
Hi.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 06:04:44
October 05 2011 06:03 GMT
#2714
On October 05 2011 15:02 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 14:52 TheYango wrote:
On October 05 2011 14:45 Two_DoWn wrote:
I guess I should have clarified- since when is cho a tank and not a bruiser. Dude deals a TON of damage with straight tank items. Which is kind of the definition of a bruiser.

Honestly, the term tank really doesn't fit this game at all. Because no champion's function is solely to take damage. They either provide defensive utility through CC/shields (e.g. Shen), damage/offensive utility (lots of people), or initiation. Which means it's probably easier to categorize them as bruisers/melee carries, initiators, and supports, rather than the ambiguous (and quite frankly pointless) catch-all term "tank".

A champion whose kit is only good for taking damage is a bad champion.


You're basing your idea of a tank off of mmos, and since this isn't a pve game of course that idea doesn't work. In this game, a tank is somebody who is there to be unkillable unless focused extremely hard while also putting out a good amount of disruption.

OK then the term "disruption" is also ambiguous.

Again, I don't see how trying to use a catch-all phrase "tank" is any more useful than using the appropriate specific terms for what they actually DO, which is acting either as initiators, melee carries/semicarries, or as supports.
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kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
October 05 2011 06:04 GMT
#2715
misaya: CLG is very strong but we believe that chinese LoL is very strong and we will play confidently
AngryMole
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom26 Posts
October 05 2011 06:04 GMT
#2716
There is a BS amount of lag on the stream now, during interviews, ffs Own3dtv wtf host better service.
kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
October 05 2011 06:05 GMT
#2717
misaya:after we saw the match we did get information from it, we watch a lot of their games normally, we have our strategies, everyone should watch the match and see
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 05 2011 06:05 GMT
#2718
holy fuck this translator sucks
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
October 05 2011 06:06 GMT
#2719
the on-stream translations are a bit off... for example, for the second question the interviewer didn't translate the bit about them already having seen CLG's matches before
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
aliasds
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada555 Posts
October 05 2011 06:06 GMT
#2720
On October 05 2011 15:05 Slow Motion wrote:
holy fuck this translator sucks

probably hired cause he speaks cantonese, judging by the accent.
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