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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 20 2011 10:43 GMT
#2121
Yeah SK should replace Wickd, because he isn't anything special tbh and WetDreaM, because he's super awful jungler.
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befek
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland413 Posts
August 20 2011 10:43 GMT
#2122
On August 20 2011 19:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
So, predictions for SK vs TSM?

I hope sk will win they deserved something this weekend (expect wickd).
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d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
August 20 2011 10:44 GMT
#2123
On August 20 2011 19:42 bigjenk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 19:41 d(O.o)a wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:38 bigjenk wrote:
Why american teams have so much more personality? Other than shushei there isn't really a personality that is well liked eu side.


Wickd?


Everyone i hear from hates wickd because he acts very childish. Seen quite a bit of posting saying sk should replace him.


Yes, but many people hate Hotshot and Regi too, how can you say he's not a personality just because people don't like him?
Hi.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 20 2011 10:44 GMT
#2124
On August 20 2011 19:42 bigjenk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 19:41 d(O.o)a wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:38 bigjenk wrote:
Why american teams have so much more personality? Other than shushei there isn't really a personality that is well liked eu side.


Wickd?


Everyone i hear from hates wickd because he acts very childish. Seen quite a bit of posting saying sk should replace him.


If not for personality, then at least for performance. I feel he's the weakest on SK.
Breaking Oce's back, sup?
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SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 10:46:05
August 20 2011 10:44 GMT
#2125
On August 20 2011 19:44 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 19:42 bigjenk wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:41 d(O.o)a wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:38 bigjenk wrote:
Why american teams have so much more personality? Other than shushei there isn't really a personality that is well liked eu side.


Wickd?


Everyone i hear from hates wickd because he acts very childish. Seen quite a bit of posting saying sk should replace him.


Yes, but many people hate Hotshot and Regi too, how can you say he's not a personality just because people don't like him?

There are also people who like Regi and HSGG. No one likes Wickd. Period.

Plus his builds are bat shit retarded that only work against insanely weaker opposition,
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Microchaton
Profile Joined March 2011
France342 Posts
August 20 2011 10:45 GMT
#2126
most of the Millenium guys are really likable and well-loved in EU. Soazz Kujaa Linak are very nice guys. Shlaya I don't really know.
They just don't stream and aren't big-mouthed like some americans "big names" that's all.
Stormy
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
August 20 2011 10:46 GMT
#2127
On August 20 2011 19:44 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 19:44 d(O.o)a wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:42 bigjenk wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:41 d(O.o)a wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:38 bigjenk wrote:
Why american teams have so much more personality? Other than shushei there isn't really a personality that is well liked eu side.


Wickd?


Everyone i hear from hates wickd because he acts very childish. Seen quite a bit of posting saying sk should replace him.


Yes, but many people hate Hotshot and Regi too, how can you say he's not a personality just because people don't like him?

There are also people who like Regi and HSGG. No one likes Wickd. Period.


Than how come wickd is probably the 3rd most watched stream after hotshot and jiji? He gets more viewers than TRM, Bob, Chaox, Westrice.

Just because you don't like him doesn't mean nobody does.
Hi.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 20 2011 10:46 GMT
#2128
I like wickd

I don't think I would like him if I were regularly interacting with him
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 20 2011 10:47 GMT
#2129
On August 20 2011 19:39 Crucifix wrote:
So from NA who has so much more personality? HotShotGG? Come on... I'm personal Regi lover, also Dyrus for being a positive troll. EU just don't care, they play the game :3


Those are the big 3, trm as well although he isn't as much liked as the others. Doesn't seem like eu players communicate nearly as much with the fanbase which is prob the big part.

Prediction for fnatic vs tsm is tsm due to the comps they will play although i think they are evenly matched fnatic doesn't seem to have adjusted their playstyle with the meta. Plus gotta go for tsm since they contribute the most back to the community.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 20 2011 10:47 GMT
#2130
Because ppl don't like watching boring streams. Wickd, except him being a kiddy troll, always delivers some lols on his stream, so does HSGG with his feeding/trolling w/e.

Westrice, TRM and Bob especially just play solo Q's and that's all.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 20 2011 10:48 GMT
#2131
On August 20 2011 19:46 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 19:44 SHr3DD3r wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:44 d(O.o)a wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:42 bigjenk wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:41 d(O.o)a wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:38 bigjenk wrote:
Why american teams have so much more personality? Other than shushei there isn't really a personality that is well liked eu side.


Wickd?


Everyone i hear from hates wickd because he acts very childish. Seen quite a bit of posting saying sk should replace him.


Yes, but many people hate Hotshot and Regi too, how can you say he's not a personality just because people don't like him?

There are also people who like Regi and HSGG. No one likes Wickd. Period.


Than how come wickd is probably the 3rd most watched stream after hotshot and jiji? He gets more viewers than TRM, Bob, Chaox, Westrice.

Just because you don't like him doesn't mean nobody does.


I've never seen him higher than 3rd on the stream list unless all the major na streamers were offline. hsgg, jiji, trm, regi, dyrus all regularly pull more than him. Shit ive seen grackis above him before.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 10:49:37
August 20 2011 10:48 GMT
#2132
On August 20 2011 19:47 Crucifix wrote:
Because ppl don't like watching boring streams. Wickd, except him being a kiddy troll, always delivers some lols on his stream, so does HSGG with his feeding/trolling w/e.

Westrice, TRM and Bob especially just play solo Q's and that's all.


... That's called being a personality, and people watch it because they like his stream. If nobody liked him than he'd get no viewers.

I really don't understand your logic.
On August 20 2011 19:48 bigjenk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 19:46 d(O.o)a wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:44 SHr3DD3r wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:44 d(O.o)a wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:42 bigjenk wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:41 d(O.o)a wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:38 bigjenk wrote:
Why american teams have so much more personality? Other than shushei there isn't really a personality that is well liked eu side.


Wickd?


Everyone i hear from hates wickd because he acts very childish. Seen quite a bit of posting saying sk should replace him.


Yes, but many people hate Hotshot and Regi too, how can you say he's not a personality just because people don't like him?

There are also people who like Regi and HSGG. No one likes Wickd. Period.


Than how come wickd is probably the 3rd most watched stream after hotshot and jiji? He gets more viewers than TRM, Bob, Chaox, Westrice.

Just because you don't like him doesn't mean nobody does.


I've never seen him higher than 3rd on the stream list unless all the major na streamers were offline. hsgg, jiji, trm, regi, dyrus all regularly pull more than him. Shit ive seen grackis above him before.


Maybe when he first turns on his stream, wickd is regularly 3-6k while grackis is never above 1k.
Hi.
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 20 2011 10:49 GMT
#2133
On August 20 2011 19:47 Crucifix wrote:
Because ppl don't like watching boring streams. Wickd, except him being a kiddy troll, always delivers some lols on his stream, so does HSGG with his feeding/trolling w/e.

Westrice, TRM and Bob especially just play solo Q's and that's all.


This I mean cmon grackis breaks 1k viewers at times.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 20 2011 10:50 GMT
#2134
I watch Wickd's stream although I goddamn hate him.

No logic, probably but that's what most ppl do, lol.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 10:52:18
August 20 2011 10:50 GMT
#2135
People like Westrice are boring to watch. Just playing the game, zzzzzzzzz. The Rain Man and others who rage and yell on stream are quite entertaining.
God Bless
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
August 20 2011 10:51 GMT
#2136
On August 20 2011 19:50 Crucifix wrote:
I watch Wickd's stream although I goddamn hate him.

No logic, probably but that's what most ppl do, lol.


He's a famous lol player because of his personality and the statement was that there are no big eu personalities, but that is exactly what wickd is.
Hi.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 20 2011 10:51 GMT
#2137
On August 20 2011 19:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 19:41 overt wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:39 Crucifix wrote:
So from NA who has so much more personality? HotShotGG? Come on... I'm personal Regi lover, also Dyrus for being a positive troll. EU just don't care, they play the game :3


I think part of the problem is that a lot of the EU players don't speak English as their first language. But US players come across in interviews a lot better whereas most of the EU players come across as being incredibly awkward. Could very well be a language issue/cultural issue.


I think this as well. A lot of the EU that get interviewed are overly polite and formal.



if u get interviewed live in a foreign language, you have to really concentrate to not miss anything and cant give elaborate answers.
Still better than a "pardon?" :D
JL13
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1384 Posts
August 20 2011 10:52 GMT
#2138
I agree on better interviewer. At least she admits on her FB page that she doesn't follow LoL competitive gameplay.

Salce imo is one of the best US AP players. Look at his Vladimir ranked play.... 90%+ win pct with over 50 games. Sure its solo queue and Vlad OP blah blah blah, but 90% win pct on any champion for that amount of games is very impressive. Also... no AP beats Cassie 1v1 lane except maybe Brand? Can't say I have lots of lane experience vs Cass but her damage is on par with Annie's. I think his Zilean held up fine.

Fnatic's strategy works cause they have 2 capable AP's. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I enjoy watching their play. During teamfights, 2 AP upfront burst can end the fight right there; that alone is very important to account for.
Favorite Progamers in order: JangBi, Kwanro, Really, DarkElf
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 20 2011 10:53 GMT
#2139
On August 20 2011 19:51 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 19:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:41 overt wrote:
On August 20 2011 19:39 Crucifix wrote:
So from NA who has so much more personality? HotShotGG? Come on... I'm personal Regi lover, also Dyrus for being a positive troll. EU just don't care, they play the game :3


I think part of the problem is that a lot of the EU players don't speak English as their first language. But US players come across in interviews a lot better whereas most of the EU players come across as being incredibly awkward. Could very well be a language issue/cultural issue.


I think this as well. A lot of the EU that get interviewed are overly polite and formal.



if u get interviewed live in a foreign language, you have to really concentrate to not miss anything and cant give elaborate answers.
Still better than a "pardon?" :D


Oh, I totally understand that. I'm just saying that saying EU players not having "personality" isn't really their fault. It's a big language barrier there.
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Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
August 20 2011 10:53 GMT
#2140
I know from watching mma and boxing interviews it isn't a bad idea to get a translator.
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