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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 06 2013 20:14 GMT
#1281
Solo Tristana is best in mid where it isn't such a big deal that her E pushes the lane constantly.

We've done mid AD Trist extensively for TROLLS already, it's quite good.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
September 06 2013 21:47 GMT
#1282
I remember Jacky pulling off mid AD trist in a tournament in season 2, when he was contending for best mid NA and Crs was an exciting team.... good times...
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
September 06 2013 23:27 GMT
#1283
Have you guys done AP Varus recently if ever?

He's always been quite interesting, absolutely explodes tanks with upwards of 50% max health damage per proc. Turns his great AOE lockdown ult into a crushing AOE death ult+ snare if anyone survives.

He received a significant buff in the form of the changes to nashors tooth. Much smoother to play now with more consistent auto damage.

his weakness is, as always, his lack of escapes and squishyness comboed with his lack of hard CC and a need to be in auto range for a few seconds. He plays well with Thresh and team shields or heals. Runaans is also not terrible and can end a teamfight solo with a good ult, but probably not a serious item in most cases. His complete lack of viable sustain options is also frustrating.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
cakeball
Profile Joined September 2013
4 Posts
September 12 2013 00:47 GMT
#1284
With recent TForce buffs I am interesting in trying TForce on Vayne. Max Q + TForce could have awesome poke.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 06:27:02
September 14 2013 18:15 GMT
#1285
Important Announcement:

TROLLS is officially on hiatus. It's the end of Season 3, and most people are more interested in achieving their goals in ranked than experimenting. TROLLS will resume when Season 4 and all its glorious and as-of-yet unknown changes roll around.

In commemoration, here's a list of the best and most successful ideas we encountered. Balance and the meta have swept some of them away, but we remember them fondly because they worked.
  • Tryndamere AP Opening
    • Before an unknown Silver player surprised the community by reaching Platinum using AP Tryndamere, Monte theorized that Tryndamere's huge AP-based sustain potential had escaped Riot's notice. Whether building AP or a more standard AD/Crit build, the AP-rune/mastery setup Monte suggested brought mr_tolkien great success, and closely mirrored the FotM setup that would take the community by storm. Nerfed to the ground, it remains the first example of a TROLLS idea that unequivocally worked.
  • Jungle Nasus
    • It seems obvious in retrospect, but few people took notice when Riot buffed Nasus' Q to receive double the bonus when killing large jungle creeps. Monte's experiments with Jungle Nasus were so successful that one of his videos directly resulted in a major bug fix. Now popularized by Diamonprox, Jungle Nasus remains a competitive pick, minus the crit.
  • Level 1 Jungle Buff Donation
    • Some ideas consumed a lot of TROLLS' time, and splitting the team up to take both buffs as they spawned was one of them. Math was done, invasions were planned, and in the end TROLLS was convinced that having an ally arrive in lane with a level and a buff on their opponent was powerful enough to make up for the jungler having only one buff. Lo and behold, come Worlds we saw this in action. Vulcan gave Blue to Karthus, while Elise took Red and then attempted to contest Mineski's Red (unsuccessfully). Mineski might not have been the best team in the group, it proved that even TROLLS' most controversial ideas have a place in competitive play.

There were many other ideas that saw moderate success, but never took off the way the preceding successes did. They are still near and dear to our hearts for the fun times we had.

  • IBG Kassadin
  • Jayce/Zilean Duo Bot
  • Support Nasus
  • Mid Maokai
  • AP Duo Lanes
  • Jungle Karthus
  • Quinn Mid
  • Mid Fiora
  • Blue Corki
  • Twitch/Cass Duo Kill Lane

Thanks everyone for a wonderful season of testing. Cake will now be served, just follow the hall and take a left when you hear the screams.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 14 2013 21:52 GMT
#1286
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 17:32:05
November 12 2013 17:21 GMT
#1287
Important Announcement:

Season 4 is right around the corner and you know what that means! TROLLS will be returning with a vengeance. However, there are two important orders of business to attend to.

First, I need 2-3 volunteers to help me run TROLLS. This whole "getting married" thing is eating up my time.

Second, Fridays are going to be bad for me. I'm thinking of rescheduling TROLLS to Mondays or Tuesdays. I need all of your thoughts on that, and I'll probably post a poll later.

We have at least a couple of weeks before the preseason changes go live. While we're waiting, start throwing around ideas and get excited.

-Monte
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 02:55:38
November 12 2013 17:30 GMT
#1288
I'll be able to do TROLLS if it's on Tuesday. And believe me, I'm ready.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
dudecrush
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada418 Posts
November 12 2013 20:02 GMT
#1289
I'd also be able to participate if it were on Tuesdays.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 12 2013 22:55 GMT
#1290
I would like to join in on some since I can on any of the days
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
November 13 2013 02:41 GMT
#1291
I could do either day on occasion.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 13 2013 06:22 GMT
#1292
Seems like Tuesday is popular, but it's poll time.

Poll: Best Day for TROLLS

Tuesday (12)
 
67%

Friday (5)
 
28%

Monday (1)
 
6%

18 total votes

Your vote: Best Day for TROLLS

(Vote): Monday
(Vote): Tuesday
(Vote): Friday

"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 14 2013 15:08 GMT
#1293
Tuesday's currently winning but I can't say I like the sample size.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
November 14 2013 16:15 GMT
#1294
On November 15 2013 00:08 Seuss wrote:
Tuesday's currently winning but I can't say I like the sample size.

make an announcement in LoL General. People might see it there better than in Strategy
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-15 00:50:52
November 15 2013 00:49 GMT
#1295
That's hilarious. Pick my busiest day of the week npnp lolol
And I'm currently in the process of building a new computer. SO NO MORE TOASTER BP!

....but then the real question is: Who will provide the toast for our evenings together?
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
November 16 2013 00:53 GMT
#1296
On November 15 2013 09:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
That's hilarious. Pick my busiest day of the week npnp lolol
And I'm currently in the process of building a new computer. SO NO MORE TOASTER BP!

....but then the real question is: Who will provide the toast for our evenings together?


I expect you to mail everyone pieces of toast. It will be about as fast as you load games. ~_~
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 16 2013 18:02 GMT
#1297
Class until 9PM on Tuesdays, GG
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 17 2013 23:14 GMT
#1298
On November 16 2013 09:53 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
That's hilarious. Pick my busiest day of the week npnp lolol
And I'm currently in the process of building a new computer. SO NO MORE TOASTER BP!

....but then the real question is: Who will provide the toast for our evenings together?


I expect you to mail everyone pieces of toast. It will be about as fast as you load games. ~_~


What part of building a new computer did you not understand? ~_~
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
November 17 2013 23:49 GMT
#1299
On November 18 2013 08:14 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 09:53 zer0das wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
That's hilarious. Pick my busiest day of the week npnp lolol
And I'm currently in the process of building a new computer. SO NO MORE TOASTER BP!

....but then the real question is: Who will provide the toast for our evenings together?


I expect you to mail everyone pieces of toast. It will be about as fast as you load games. ~_~


What part of building a new computer did you not understand? ~_~


*currently*
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 18 2013 05:18 GMT
#1300
I don't even play currently. I don't think I've even logged on for a month.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
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