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On February 13 2012 09:14 InvaderUK wrote: I'm having alot of fun playing Galio atm, his lane is really strong as I start with like 55 MR and 39 ap o.o
I usually start off boots first and am not so sure about regen first as it'd be hard to dodge any skillshots. I'm still pretty new to Galio though so I guess my main question to Yiruru or any experience galio is how to deal with high harrass/skillshot champs early on. I'm guessing you just play passively until you get chalice but maybe there is something else you guys do.
Don't start boots pot if you're going mid vs AP. Go Null Magic Mantle first with 2 pots. Champions like Brand and Cassiopeia are hurtful if they do land shots on you, but if you survive long enough to get chalice+boots on your first back, you will be fine.
And pop Bulwark if Cassio poisons you and goes after you with Es. Bulwark+~90 MR early will mean they do not do damage to you, lol.
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Tried it out earlier and the mantle start is pretty legit if you bring TP. Gotta get used to doing TP counterganks too cause thats pretty awesome, hard to get in position without a flash though.
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On February 15 2012 08:44 InvaderUK wrote: Tried it out earlier and the mantle start is pretty legit if you bring TP. Gotta get used to doing TP counterganks too cause thats pretty awesome, hard to get in position without a flash though. Why wouldn't you have a flash? Also: Boots 3 pots still strong. It's better to avoid damage than burning mana on Bulwark early on.
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I mean, if flash is down. Also yeah I think boots start still better sometimes cause he's pretty good in lane anyway, dunno why people think he's weak till chalice.
Missing ignite does suck though, it really ensures alot of kills on galio with your full combo.
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Hey if I'm running Galio bot 1v2, how should I build at the start?
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So I am a little confused. Can someone explain to me what mastery setup to use based on what type of galio you are playing (i would play him mid) and against what lanes? Also ruru are you starting philo first so opening with a regrowth or are you going chalice first opening with mantle?
Thanks Neo
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9 21 0 is most standard for AP mid. Open Regen, Philo first. Then Chalice.
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I typically use 9/0/21, moving to 0/9/21 when laning against something aggressive. 9/21/0 is usually when I need to be more meaty in some lineups.
I open Regrowth first and get Philo asap. It's just a good advantage to get the early GP5 when I can't get harassed out of the lane anyways. Things like Ryze + Aggressive Enemy Jungler can be brutal though, so I sometimes open Boots first in that case.
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huehue, free Galio week, anyone can try. :O
Just wanted to say that Galio is the farmiest champ since Sivir. Even without TP, being +50 on enemy AP mid by 20 minutes is like normal. Farm lane, farm wraiths, farm their wraiths.
Oh, and ruru's philo/chalice core, never OOM. Hardest part about Galio is probably landing those max range Smites.
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Thought on Warmogs? Galio is an initiator that has to tank people. He also already has really good + resistances and he farms like a boss.
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I'd prefer other items to mogs, but it's not that bad of a choice. Aegis, SV, Shurelya's, etc all feel like they flow better, since just straight health/health regen isn't extremely vital for him as opposed to utility stats.
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hows rod of ages on galio? i dont see many people getting it, but i loved it when i tried it. the extra health, mana, and AP all go perfectly with him
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Any difference in masteries/runes/starting items when playing Galio solo top as opposed to mid?
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Warmog's sounds nice, but the cost makes it questionable. As boss as Galio is a farmer, after the core of Philo/Chalice/Merc, I really do think Deathcap then Abyssal/Banshee is mandatory, otherwise Galio doesn't do any damage. I can see it as a 4th or 5th major buy though, but not any earlier.
Item decisions I'm looking into are: HP: Warmog's/Shurelya's MR: Abyssal/Banshee Armor: Zhonya's/Frozen Heart.
I'm not really in favor of RoA because while HP/AP is great; after Philo/Chalice, you really don't have any mana problems.
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On April 24 2012 02:23 bruteMax wrote: Any difference in masteries/runes/starting items when playing Galio solo top as opposed to mid?
Mid, you're likely vs an AP Top, you're likely vs an AD bruiser
You spec accordingly.
I typically go mid with Galio, so I'm being greedy and skipping Flat Armor seals for Mana Regen. :X
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I've taken a liking to copying Froggen's build. Chalice -> Mercs -> Abyssal -> Deathcap. You get nearly 500 ap with bulwark active on it and do hilariously high amounts of damage that most dudes don't expect.
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On April 24 2012 02:30 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 02:23 bruteMax wrote: Any difference in masteries/runes/starting items when playing Galio solo top as opposed to mid? Mid, you're likely vs an AP Top, you're likely vs an AD bruiser You spec accordingly. I typically go mid with Galio, so I'm being greedy and skipping Flat Armor seals for Mana Regen. :X
Even with the adequate masteries/runes you will lose top against all bruisers unless you play against someone who is a lot less skilled than you are. Galio is a poor top pick, the only reason to put him there was/is because you wanted an ap mid. He does very much better mid thanks to his MR
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Yiruru Galio is so boss he doesn't take blue buffs unless it's like Lee Sin. #1 big pro
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Poll: Galio needs mana, yes or no?yes (3) 60% no (2) 40% 5 total votes Your vote: Galio needs mana, yes or no? (Vote): yes (Vote): no
On February 06 2012 07:39 BluzMan wrote: Galio needs mana, but is not spammy enough to warrant a Tear. Galio needs MR to win lane (he is melee lol) and that's what chalice is for. Plus, it gives AP. All for less than 1000 gold. that is such a true statement. I can't agree more with you! 
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Question: I just picked up Galio this week, and I've wondered about the new item Athene's Unholy Grail. Since you already get chalice pretty early on, how good is this item compared to other Mres items like BV, Abyssal and Deathcap. It seems almost tailored to Galios needs, CDR, MRes, AP, and too much mana to the point where you can just give up blue buff to whomever you like. How does it fit in to some of Galios other core items?
Also, how sub-optimal is Galio in lanes other than mid. Still a pre-30 nooblord who games mostly with my friends, so how bad is Galio bot and what sort of build tweaks should I do vs the generic toplane?
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