Issues with removing the macro mechanics - Page 2

I wanted to share my opinion on current LotV economy change patch and I'll try to explain why I think this patch in general is bad for the game.

Economy got a lot slower, by removing the macro mechanics the game is slower which means less action and more time needed to get the units out. When I started playing LotV the thing I loved about it is how fast it was compared to hots and this patch is changing that.


Zerg won't be able to do baneling busts anymore since there will be 4 larva less per inject, any kind of speedling flood will be a lot weaker and it will be even more all-in since you can't just make huge round of drones after that and be fine, 4 drones is a lot in the early game which overall means..more of "what's your favorite childhood game Tasteless and what have you been playing recently?", because sacrificing your economy that early in the game will have huge impact in the mid game.

Major difference between Hydra and any random GM Zerg right now is how many more units Hydra can make at the certain point in the game and how well he can manage his injects and economy. If you remove the injects that's taken away and Zerg as a race becomes a lot easier to play. Creep spread will be out of control since Zerg's have one less thing to do right now. Overall nerf for Zerg in the early game and buff to any Zergs that aren't top tier Koreans in the mid and late game.


Protoss won't be able to do fast tech transition anymore since they don't have chrono boost, no chrono boost also means they will have to start their forges earlier, which means if they do that they won't be able to be aggressive on the map since they are spending their resources earlier on the upgrades which again slows down the game and kills the action in the early game. Sure it's possible to be aggressive even without chrono boost, but not making forges early in the game is border line going to be all-in, because you won't be able to catch up in upgrades and because Terran can scan you all day now and once they see no forges, they will just play defensive. This kind of change will make Protoss camp in their base and not be aggressive with any units because you will be scouted extremely easily by both Zerg and Terran and it's overall just slowing down the Protoss tech quite a lot and forcing them to go more gateway heavy in the early game. Overall it's a nerf to Protoss in every kind of way.


Terran, no more mules. There is no more decision making if you should scan the opponent instead of using the mule for the economy boost in the early game, there is no more trade off if you get supply blocked you can drop a supply depo, but you "lose" 280 minerals by doing so. Orbital command is boring. You can make PF at your third now, so I guess that's one good thing.
We all know Terran is heavily focused on hitting timings vs both Zerg and Protoss and..yep you guessed it those are now more or less gone and unless you open with tripple CC you will be behind in all 3 match-ups. Terran late game is..screwed. If you played bio in hots in the late game vs Zerg or Protoss you know you made extra orbitals and then sacrificed scv's in order to have more units on the field because both Protoss and Zerg have a lot better production in the late game. You can barely support 3 rax, 1 factory and 1 starport off of 2 base, which means you simply cannot go 2 base pressure and not be extremely behind if you don't do any damage to the opponent. Overall a "buff" in the early game because you can use your scans more frequent, but huge nerf to the mid and late game.


Now one thing that I think a lot of people didn't even consider is losing your workers. If you thought Protoss losing 10 probes in TvP in hots was bad, think again the same situation except in LotV with no chrono boost to make those probes again. Think about oracle killing 10 scvs, there's no more mule and remaking those 10 scv's will take long time. Hellion run-by vs Zerg and you killed let's say 16 drones? That's 8 cycles of injects worth of larva.
Losing your workers in Brood War was bad, but there weren't as many mineral line harassment units as there are in Starcraft II, what's going to stop me constantly making and dropping widow mines vs P or doing hellion harass vs Z and just trading for workers, it's slowing down their economy way more than it is in hots. The harassment units like widow mines, hellions, oracles, dt's, mutas will be game ending units if you managed to kill enough workers and then just make an army, walk across the map and kill your opponent because he had to cut unit production to remake the workers while you kept making units the whole time.


I was playing a lot of Legacy and I was enjoying it quite a lot, this patch is making the game a lot slower and easier for all 3 races, every aggressive move you make is more all-in than before and losing your economy most likely means losing the game. The game is becoming way too focused on micro and less and less on macro. Macro is what separates SC2 from other strategy games, that's what makes it beautiful, seeing Maru having 50-100 minerals throughout the whole game while having insane economy, while microing his units and moving around the map. I don't want SC2 to become a moba game, each unit having a skill or spell to use and micro play becoming more powerful than macro play, that's not what SC2 is about.


This isn't whining because I'm doing poorly after the patch or whining that my race is bad after the patch or something else. I know some people will tell me to "give it time" and "you just need to play the game more and figure it out". Everything I wrote are facts and I tried being as objective as I could when I talked about each race and how economy change affects them. I played 20+ games since the patch and playing another 100 more won't change my opinion about the economy change.
As someone who was one of the most excited people for LotV, I'm really disappointed by this change and the game isn't as fun or as exciting as it was.


TLDR: Removing macro mechanics is slowing down the game and making it easier for all 3 races. Macro mechanics are extremely important part of the game that show the skill of each player and there will be too little differentiation between the top players as far as macroing goes. Game is becoming too focused on the micro, while macro is being pushed to the side. Harassment units are becoming too strong with this kind of economy change because there's no more mules, no more chrono boost to remake probes and less larva to re-drone.
Macro mechanics need to exist in SC2 and they should be re-added to the game.