[Patch 8.3] Swain Remake General Discussion - Page 3

On February 11 2018 07:22 Sent. wrote:
Would it make sense to run unsealed spellbook on a jungler and some other position and then have that other player take over the smiting duty? For example you start with jungle Jax and support Taric but finish with TP Jax and smite Taric.

Obviously not in solo q.

On February 12 2018 00:55 General_Winter wrote:
On the subject of switching to smite late. One thing I haven’t tried but have wondered about. If a team has several spellbook users anyway (for example Vlad top takes spellbook, lots of mid laners take spellbook), and the team was losing the game pretty badly, I wonder if you could switch everyone to smite and rush baron more aggressively than the other team could expect or baron steal with 3 smites.

Doesn’t seem like a robust primary strategy, but maybe it’s a decent way to turn a 100% lost game to a 50% coin flipping random mess.

On February 11 2018 19:18 M2 wrote:

Why not, my objection would be that supports are lower level which may impact the smite wars, also smite wars require high skill and could not be that easy for a non jungler. However, whats wrong with doing this in soloQ if you are duo?

On February 12 2018 04:23 NapKiN16 wrote:


The problem is that when you switch summoners with unsealed, there is a message put into chat for both teams saying which summoner spell you switched to, so if the other team is paying attention it'd be obvious to them what you are trying to do...

On February 13 2018 07:56 dsyxelic wrote:
meh too cheesy

isnt that only an extra 2-3k damage on baron while basically announcing you're doing it? and also being down 5 summoner spells for the next teamfight?

i think you would have a better chance at the baron by just sneaking it without the tp. 2-3k extra damage on baron + announcing you're going to do it doesn't seem that much better than simply sneaking it and having to expend flashes to escape if needed.

and unlike the former, you don't have to finish it. can just peel off if needed whereas with the tp smite approach there's no backing out lol. if you can't actually finish it gj you either give the chance to take the baron / ace you or you just lose 5 sum spells for free.

On February 13 2018 17:23 DarkCore wrote:


At the 40 minute mark, Baron has like 14k health, and smite does 1k true damage each. So you could instakill it at a third of its health, that's pretty scary. Early lategame when players aren't lv 18 it seems incredibly risky.

I could also imagine it being used to secure baron after winning a fight, but not enough to take objectives. Kill an opponent for the 5vs4, recall with lowest 3-4 players, and come back immediately for that sweet baron. Even more powerful if you bait the enemy team into also recalling.