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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 23 2017 10:32 GMT
#81
On November 23 2017 17:13 DarkCore wrote:
Honestly, with how much talent is being imported to NA, it would be sad if they didn't have a good year in international tournaments. At the very least they should stomp EU, there's no excuse.

It is overall basically the same players as last year though, just reshuffled among the teams. And with that reshuffling many players got even higher salaries.
Where there any new imports other than Mithy/Zven reported so far?
Off-season = best season
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 23 2017 11:51 GMT
#82
Ssumday/Meteos/Ryu confirmed for 100T
Inven: Flame to FQ.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
November 23 2017 12:01 GMT
#83
So what youre saying is that this is the year of NA?
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-23 13:04:20
November 23 2017 13:03 GMT
#84
On November 23 2017 19:32 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2017 17:13 DarkCore wrote:
Honestly, with how much talent is being imported to NA, it would be sad if they didn't have a good year in international tournaments. At the very least they should stomp EU, there's no excuse.

It is overall basically the same players as last year though, just reshuffled among the teams. And with that reshuffling many players got even higher salaries.
Where there any new imports other than Mithy/Zven reported so far?

That's my impression so I was a bit confused. The only team bringing in new players seem to be C9 but those are from NA. Don't really see any "new" teams forming that are any better than previous years. Just feels like big reshuffling with some teams possibly even worse off(EF)
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 23 2017 13:11 GMT
#85
Overall I would expect na to be worse this year
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 23 2017 13:19 GMT
#86
On November 23 2017 22:03 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2017 19:32 Redox wrote:
On November 23 2017 17:13 DarkCore wrote:
Honestly, with how much talent is being imported to NA, it would be sad if they didn't have a good year in international tournaments. At the very least they should stomp EU, there's no excuse.

It is overall basically the same players as last year though, just reshuffled among the teams. And with that reshuffling many players got even higher salaries.
Where there any new imports other than Mithy/Zven reported so far?

That's my impression so I was a bit confused. The only team bringing in new players seem to be C9 but those are from NA. Don't really see any "new" teams forming that are any better than previous years. Just feels like big reshuffling with some teams possibly even worse off(EF)

The problem is right now only the high profile players are getting picked up because, obviously, that's who teams will go after first. So right now it's just big names.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
November 23 2017 13:45 GMT
#87
On November 23 2017 21:01 AlterKot wrote:
So what youre saying is that this is the year of NA?

The year of EUNA
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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-23 14:06:46
November 23 2017 14:05 GMT
#88
KR isn't paying as well as NA, but they're paying well enough for most of the big names to stay together. Also, with Worlds semi-crowd funded now, winning Worlds is a way bigger incentive which, let's be real, won't happen if you're playing in NA.

The massive NA salaries are going to players who are close to becoming residents via the 4-year rule. I'm just waiting for players to get NA residency via Green cards. Which team is gonna set up some Koreans with Americans to get married and farm an ez 5 Korean team?
Que Sera Sera
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 23 2017 14:31 GMT
#89
On November 23 2017 23:05 AdsMoFro wrote:
KR isn't paying as well as NA, but they're paying well enough for most of the big names to stay together. Also, with Worlds semi-crowd funded now, winning Worlds is a way bigger incentive which, let's be real, won't happen if you're playing in NA.

The massive NA salaries are going to players who are close to becoming residents via the 4-year rule. I'm just waiting for players to get NA residency via Green cards. Which team is gonna set up some Koreans with Americans to get married and farm an ez 5 Korean team?

I read that Bjergsen has applied for a green card, don't know if there's any validity to it.

There's also the incentive for teams to continue to re-up KR imports instead of finding new ones. They can talk to other people about how they are as a player in NA and carry over their knowledge of English instead of possibly having to start from ground 0 with a new one.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
November 23 2017 16:16 GMT
#90
CLG Reignover
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
November 23 2017 16:21 GMT
#91
Also, with Worlds semi-crowd funded now, winning Worlds is a way bigger incentive which, let's be real, won't happen if you're playing in NA.


While true, you also have to consider that there are only like half a dozen teams who have realistic chances of winning or even making it through to the later stages of Worlds, where the real prizes sit. So in a way, there is actually a big salary difference between the top 4 KR teams and everyone else, no surprise they see very little shuffling about.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-24 00:00:01
November 23 2017 23:58 GMT
#92
OpTic: +PowerOfEvil, +zig, +LemonNation

So OpTic is shaping up to be zig, Akaadian, PoE, Arrow, Lemon.
Odd group, to say the least.
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St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
November 24 2017 00:29 GMT
#93
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10584 Posts
November 24 2017 00:31 GMT
#94
TSM says Sven is still contracted under TSM and more news will be released later. So probably Sven just getting moved to the academy team? I actually like a rotation of Sven and MY on TSM, you have Sven as a more tanky jungler and MY as a carry/play making jungler.
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St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
November 24 2017 00:32 GMT
#95
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 24 2017 00:34 GMT
#96
I guess #TheColony didn't have the same ring to it. zz
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 24 2017 00:38 GMT
#97
On November 24 2017 09:31 FlaShFTW wrote:
TSM says Sven is still contracted under TSM and more news will be released later. So probably Sven just getting moved to the academy team? I actually like a rotation of Sven and MY on TSM, you have Sven as a more tanky jungler and MY as a carry/play making jungler.

Sven wouldn't be able to rotate in cause TSM's Bot is already double import. Even Rallez is EU import.
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Faeny
Profile Joined January 2015
647 Posts
November 24 2017 00:59 GMT
#98
All this talent being haphazardly thrown together, especially for the new teams. I wonder which staffs will be able to get their teams to work and which just completely fall flat.

On November 23 2017 12:07 Cowley wrote:
In traditional sports you don't have to worry about your players being in constant communication like esports. Don't know if they'll be able to build an effective roster when they're just picking up players where they can, grabing Koreans when they come up.

Uh...what? Sure players in team sports don't have headsets to talk to each other in real time, but to say you don't worry about communicating effectively...
SKT hwaiting! RIP TL, TiP
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 24 2017 00:59 GMT
#99
That Mike Yeung has a team before Moon after last season is interesting to me. Ppl must think he has a lot of potential, but the way flyquest worked off of moon and hai teaming up could have gone great with Bjerg
Carrilord has arrived.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
November 24 2017 01:29 GMT
#100
On November 24 2017 08:58 NeoIllusions wrote:
OpTic: +PowerOfEvil, +zig, +LemonNation

So OpTic is shaping up to be zig, Akaadian, PoE, Arrow, Lemon.
Odd group, to say the least.


I was just thinking today how much I wanted to see Zig on a team. Really loving this Optic roster
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