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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-06 22:36:28
December 06 2015 22:35 GMT
#341
As a general thesis statement, Brand did/does stupid damage, has great zone control, and has CC.
-Passive does damage and burns stacks, super good for harass
-Great base damage, blows up enemy squishies
-All you need is mpen
-Excels at zone control, opponents have to play around your W
-Can easily turn around ganks by just dumping damage
-Long stun, easy to use (we def disagreed on this)
-Great with Zeke's

I'm not saying the buffs didn't have any effect-- Brand went from being a underrated pick (when he was admittedly somewhat weaker) to being kinda fotm with better itemization and other indirect buffs. My main point is the perceived increase in his strength doesn't match the actual increase in his strength.

By looking at masteries, I mean I haven't played any games with support Brand or Ketara'd the math and done any specific min/maxing. Masteries being stronger/ more valuable helps the role with least gold (the support) the most proportionally. I think a 18/0/12 + mpen page would work fine. I used to take mana regen runes but new FQC means I could probs ditch that.

If the dude who played support brand hadn't had a complete shit build (he tried to rush Rylai's or something iirc) and shit game I'll bet his playrate would have shot up and the champ/role would have gotten a solid look.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 06 2015 22:52 GMT
#342
Riot's already nerfing him because of the mastery specifically.
Well, they're also nerfing Swain, because of the interaction between the mastery and DoTs. And yes, they said just a couple weeks ago about Warlord's Bloodlust that they wouldn't nerf champs (Tryndamere and Yasuo) when the mastery is at fault and should be looked at instead. Don't ask them for consistency.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-06 23:00:26
December 06 2015 22:57 GMT
#343
Actually rushing rylai is what everyone does and it works really well exactly because of the increased gold gain. After fqc ofc that item is just broken.

Also 12/18 is the page I see most often or 18/12.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-07 02:10:03
December 07 2015 02:09 GMT
#344
If you're Brand, I've no idea why you wouldn't get the absolutely insane DFT. Precision is great and all, but DFT is absolutely punishing on DoT champs.

DFT was a terrible idea, Riot. And I love Brand and DoT champs in general. That shit is insane.
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TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
December 07 2015 02:37 GMT
#345
On December 07 2015 11:09 Caiada wrote:
DFT is absolutely punishing on DoT champs.


Not all of them! It does nothing on Twitch's poison, at least.
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
December 07 2015 09:18 GMT
#346
On December 07 2015 07:52 Alaric wrote:
Riot's already nerfing him because of the mastery specifically.
Well, they're also nerfing Swain, because of the interaction between the mastery and DoTs. And yes, they said just a couple weeks ago about Warlord's Bloodlust that they wouldn't nerf champs (Tryndamere and Yasuo) when the mastery is at fault and should be looked at instead. Don't ask them for consistency.


What's your source for those incoming nerfs on Brand and Swain? I don't remember seeing anything about them on the PBE.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
December 07 2015 09:25 GMT
#347
On December 07 2015 18:18 NpG)Explosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2015 07:52 Alaric wrote:
Riot's already nerfing him because of the mastery specifically.
Well, they're also nerfing Swain, because of the interaction between the mastery and DoTs. And yes, they said just a couple weeks ago about Warlord's Bloodlust that they wouldn't nerf champs (Tryndamere and Yasuo) when the mastery is at fault and should be looked at instead. Don't ask them for consistency.


What's your source for those incoming nerfs on Brand and Swain? I don't remember seeing anything about them on the PBE.

Brand
Pillar of Flame (W) mana cost increased to 70/80/90/100/110 from 70/75/80/85/90

Swain
Nevermove (W) root duration reduced to 1/1.3/1.5/1.8/2 seconds from 2 at all ranks

Source

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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-07 11:05:29
December 07 2015 11:04 GMT
#348
edit: wrong message
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 07 2015 11:05 GMT
#349
Syntax change, no actual difference.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
December 07 2015 22:19 GMT
#350


This has got to be the greatest League video of all time.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-07 22:50:01
December 07 2015 22:42 GMT
#351
Tfw a person on the enemy team starts int feeding cuz he feels bad for you and the int feeders on your team. You should turn on gross gore stream for some laughs.

I heard euw soloq was tryhard.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
December 08 2015 01:19 GMT
#352
On December 08 2015 07:19 GrandInquisitor wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeNOyxl_aY

This has got to be the greatest League video of all time.


Too funny. I like how that game had some of LoL's most known backdoor champs and it still lasted so long.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 08 2015 01:56 GMT
#353
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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
December 08 2015 06:43 GMT
#354
On December 08 2015 07:19 GrandInquisitor wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeNOyxl_aY

This has got to be the greatest League video of all time.


A great showpiece on "Why you want to have an actual ADC".
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
December 08 2015 11:39 GMT
#355
On December 08 2015 15:43 Celial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2015 07:19 GrandInquisitor wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeNOyxl_aY

This has got to be the greatest League video of all time.


A great showpiece on "Why you want to have an actual ADC".

adc is needed to siege towers but they already had naked nexus so i dont see how its an showpiece of anything, besides technically trynd is an adc and damn good one at killing structures
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
December 08 2015 14:01 GMT
#356
On December 08 2015 15:43 Celial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2015 07:19 GrandInquisitor wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeNOyxl_aY

This has got to be the greatest League video of all time.


A great showpiece on "Why you want to have an actual ADC".

To tell you the truth I think that at bronze and silver level 5 random champions will have equal chances to beat meta composition, meaning that for example garen, darius, braum, panteon and lets say fiora have 50/50 chance to beat something with dedicated top, mid, jungle, adc and support.
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 08 2015 16:07 GMT
#357
Yeah, because having a traditional team comp doesn't mean anything if the players have no idea how to take advantage of it
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 08 2015 16:20 GMT
#358
On December 09 2015 01:07 ticklishmusic wrote:
Yeah, because having a traditional team comp doesn't mean anything if the players have no idea how to take advantage of it

At the same time I'd trust a team to play with a traditional set up they might somewhat understand as opposed to going full soloq.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
December 08 2015 16:42 GMT
#359
One thing that always fascinated me about MOBA's in general is how late into a "career" on them you have to wait until you see dedicated team work. It always seems you have to go 2 or 3 tiers in before you see folks use constant team work for most matches.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 17:19:26
December 08 2015 17:18 GMT
#360
On December 08 2015 20:39 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2015 15:43 Celial wrote:
On December 08 2015 07:19 GrandInquisitor wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeNOyxl_aY

This has got to be the greatest League video of all time.


A great showpiece on "Why you want to have an actual ADC".

adc is needed to siege towers but they already had naked nexus so i dont see how its an showpiece of anything, besides technically trynd is an adc and damn good one at killing structures


because the other team won when a tristana just went ahead and soloed their nexus.

blue didnt lose because they didnt have an adc. red just won (from extremely behind) because they had one.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
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