EPTOne summer in college I was an undergrad researcher being paid $8/hr, so about $1200 bucks a month. I had to pay my own rent, food and other expenses
Hourly min. also really doesn't apply to salary/ stipend
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
One summer in college I was an undergrad researcher being paid $8/hr, so about $1200 bucks a month. I had to pay my own rent, food and other expenses Hourly min. also really doesn't apply to salary/ stipend | ||
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
thats more than manhattan tier pricing. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
Streaming commission seems pretty solid from what I can tell (90% of all stream income for something as simple as throwing up all their banner ads seems easy enough). Ofc, I'm not a contract law expert so maybe it's actually a shit deal, but the exposure from being part of CLG seems worth sacrificing 10% of your stream dosh. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
1K rent 600-800 food rest incidentals, share of furniture (which costs money), utilities, etc. | ||
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Saradin
456 Posts
On December 30 2015 04:13 dsyxelic wrote: i'm not saying room and board isnt valuable, i'm saying 2k per month for 1 person is just hilariously expensive. thats more than manhattan tier pricing. For the record, a report in March stated that the average studio rental in Manhattan is 2,691$ per month. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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Wita
Denmark267 Posts
On December 30 2015 04:29 BrownBear wrote: 2k per month does seem a little inflated. Of course, some of these gaming mansions are pretty elaborate and I'm sure CLG may have gone for the coolest looking pad over the best deal for their money. Streaming commission seems pretty solid from what I can tell (90% of all stream income for something as simple as throwing up all their banner ads seems easy enough). Ofc, I'm not a contract law expert so maybe it's actually a shit deal, but the exposure from being part of CLG seems worth sacrificing 10% of your stream dosh. Tbf CLG got the best deal that they ever could their mansion is owned by a massive CLG fan so they get a massive rent cut its ridiculous. | ||
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Wita
Denmark267 Posts
On December 30 2015 04:29 BrownBear wrote: 2k per month does seem a little inflated. Of course, some of these gaming mansions are pretty elaborate and I'm sure CLG may have gone for the coolest looking pad over the best deal for their money. Streaming commission seems pretty solid from what I can tell (90% of all stream income for something as simple as throwing up all their banner ads seems easy enough). Ofc, I'm not a contract law expert so maybe it's actually a shit deal, but the exposure from being part of CLG seems worth sacrificing 10% of your stream dosh. Tbf CLG got the best deal that they ever could their mansion is owned by a massive CLG fan so they get a massive rent cut its ridiculous. Also CLG is the only team to house players from other games besides C9 who house 1 HS player as far as I am concerned. | ||
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Saradin
456 Posts
*first year MiLB players are limited to a max of 1,100/month; afterwards is negotiated. All minor leaguers get a 25$ per diem. Bonuses will vary wildly depending on where the player was drafted (I want to say tops off at a couple to a few million a year, then it rapidly dwindles down, as teams have a limit on how much they can spend collectively in a given draft). | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
SBENU sub mid "do it" joins TDK | ||
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
On December 30 2015 04:32 ticklishmusic wrote: Not really, and California is expensive 1K rent 600-800 food rest incidentals, share of furniture (which costs money), utilities, etc. why are you counting food, utilities, and such? it says nothing of the sort there. it says $2000 for HOUSING. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 30 2015 04:42 Redox wrote: I am genuinely surprised people think 700 + room/board for 2015 CS player is low. What did they think they earn? I'm kind of surprised they even get housing/food. Do CS teams even generate the teams any revenue? | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On December 30 2015 05:09 dsyxelic wrote: why are you counting food, utilities, and such? it says nothing of the sort there. it says $2000 for HOUSING. It's called room and board, that's what housing can typically cover in contracts. Utilities are clearly counted in the contract, furniture would be worth something (see difference between renting a furnished and empty property). Food was a mistake, though typically you are allowed to count that in. There's a separate portion stating that you get $35/day on food (which is pretty good, though I'm unsure if that applies to travel only). So we're kinda equally wrong. You seem to have accidentally hit the caps button. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On December 30 2015 05:25 Numy wrote: I'm kind of surprised they even get housing/food. Do CS teams even generate the teams any revenue? Generally, no. But even in the case of Ember where the salaries are massive, if they spend two years in CS before making LCS and then turn around and sell the spot for 1mil, that more than covers the cost of the salaries. | ||
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
On December 30 2015 05:25 ticklishmusic wrote: It's called room and board, that's what housing can typically cover in contracts. Utilities are clearly counted in the contract, furniture would be worth something (see difference between renting a furnished and empty property). Food was a mistake, though typically you are allowed to count that in. There's a separate portion stating that you get $35/day on food (which is pretty good, though I'm unsure if that applies to travel only). So we're kinda equally wrong. You seem to have accidentally hit the caps button. the caps are just used for emphasis. you seem like a smart guy so I'm gonna guess its just you being snarky for some reason lol. if so, plz stop  . but just in case you're not, im not meaning to yell over the internet!i've never seen housing include food before. in any of the colleges i've attended/applied to and when I went to boarding school. if its listed as room and board thats when it typically includes some kind of meal plan or food costs. idk if you consider it the same but the terms room/board and housing are used differently for distinct purposes from what i've seen. I mean, just from the term itself room & board = room & food. housing = housing. and yes I seem to have missed the 35/day which is pretty good considering that's enough to eat out at least twice if you wanted to. not bad at all. but my original point was that 2k for housing just sounds hilarious and it still does to me. especially when I've lived in similarly expensive areas (NYC/Boston/DC) for 30-50% of that with plenty of space and other good stuff (utilities, amenities, etc.) now I don't exactly have an opinion on the contract itself, it was just something funny I saw and mentioned. | ||
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EsanLOL
479 Posts
On December 30 2015 04:32 ticklishmusic wrote: Not really, and California is expensive 1K rent 600-800 food rest incidentals, share of furniture (which costs money), utilities, etc. California is expensive but $2,000 a month for room and board could very well be above and beyond normal costs. But it ultimately kinda depends on the conditions. Like if you're sharing a room with two or three other people or you're getting a room that barely fits more than a mattress, $2,000 is definitely too much (even accounting for utilities/food/etc.). But if you're getting a nice size room to yourself, then it could actually be pretty fair. The CLG campus is actually pretty dope with the pool and what not. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On December 30 2015 05:52 dsyxelic wrote: the caps are just used for emphasis. you seem like a smart guy so I'm gonna guess its just you being snarky for some reason lol. if so, plz stop . but just in case you're not, im not meaning to yell over the internet!i've never seen housing include food before. in any of the colleges i've attended/applied to and when I went to boarding school. if its listed as room and board thats when it typically includes some kind of meal plan or food costs. idk if you consider it the same but the terms room/board and housing are used differently for distinct purposes from what i've seen. I mean, just from the term itself room & board = room & food. housing = housing. and yes I seem to have missed the 35/day which is pretty good considering that's enough to eat out at least twice if you wanted to. not bad at all. but my original point was that 2k for housing just sounds hilarious and it still does to me. especially when I've lived in similarly expensive areas (NYC/Boston/DC) for 30-50% of that with plenty of space and other good stuff (utilities, amenities, etc.) now I don't exactly have an opinion on the contract itself, it was just something funny I saw and mentioned. Y'know i thought you were krnandnman (sp.) and i was confused where he went but it turns out it really is you, didn't read the sig. Yeah, for college and stuff you typically get charged separately because college is annoying and expensive and tries to disguise that. generally in contracts (to my knowledge) you lump room and board benefits under housing. 10k monthly divided by 5... that's how it works out. You can argue the mansion could easily house 10 or something, but if they're just dividing that's how it works out. Upon reflection, the confusing element to me is that there are probably more than 5 (the contract dates to Jan 2015 so you've got the 5 starters plus Huhi and a few subs plus whatever) but there's probably some legal mumbo jumbo that lets them allocate the value of benefits in this way legally. Hard to say if 2K really makes sense or is a fair price but hey valuation of anything is more of an art than science. I don't know much much thought players are putting into decisions. One angle is this: you have basically all living expenses paid for so you can game with some cool guys and compete at the highest level to thousands of fans. Each year you take home a few thousand bucks if you aren't financially stupid. That's pretty nice. At my school, RA's got housing free and a small monthly stipend (maybe a few hundred bucks a month). So it's kind of a similar deal (I'd prefer progaming to RA though). Also contracts are kind of a minimum/theoretical thing in lots of cases (like my offer letter says 3 weeks PTO, employee manual has a formula that explains how I accrue it) but in reality I take off however much within reason. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 30 2015 05:41 Gahlo wrote: Generally, no. But even in the case of Ember where the salaries are massive, if they spend two years in CS before making LCS and then turn around and sell the spot for 1mil, that more than covers the cost of the salaries. Hmm aren't they doing about 300k a year on salaries? Doesn't seem worth if they just sell the slot after 2 years. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Brokenshard leaves dig, Razleplasm moves to head coach. Jesiz joins as strat coach | ||
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United Kingdom9872 Posts
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