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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 25 2015 04:46 GMT
#41
Well...

That just counters logic...
North2
Profile Joined January 2011
134 Posts
October 25 2015 13:21 GMT
#42
My guess is Pobelter wanted to retire anyways and he's looking to coach, but CLG is already content with the coaching staff. The "hard decision" was probably in not keeping Pobelter around to coach.

After all, there is a decent list of NA LCS mid laners switching to coaching/managing positions (Regi, Hotshot, Scarra, Pr0lly)
www.twitch.tv/rnorth2
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
October 26 2015 22:12 GMT
#43
Pob just said on stream the benching is cause the management thought Huhi was much easier to teach and offered much better ideas in terms of macro play. It came as a huge shock to him too.

He said he has already had some lcs offers and will probably be on a team next split.
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
October 26 2015 22:17 GMT
#44
On October 27 2015 07:12 Harem wrote:
Pob just said on stream the benching is cause the management thought Huhi was much easier to teach and offered much better ideas in terms of macro play. It came as a huge shock to him too.

He said he has already had some lcs offers and will probably be on a team next split.

Alright that seems a little odd. I'm sure Pobelter will land on a good team though, probably better than CLG if they are content with their roster
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-26 22:48:03
October 26 2015 22:45 GMT
#45
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
October 26 2015 22:50 GMT
#46
On October 27 2015 07:45 krndandaman wrote:
rofl easier to teach?
whats clg smoking

first off, how much is there even to teach to a pro gamer? like he's not some new amateur, he already has multiple years of competitive experience.
second of all, even if the idea that huhi is easier to teach is true, do they think its large enough to risk a roster swap and produce better results than 1st NA and 3rd groups? if you're taking the roster swap risk already, get a more established better player.

honestly what more can you ask for from your midlaner? he's no bjergsen but he works with the LOWEST gold% share besides Keane.

so basically you feed 0 resources to your midlaner and then you dump him because apparently he's not easy to teach.

sounds like pob wasn't happy being a 0 resource midlaner and CLG took it as 'this kid cant be taught' when they told him to deal with it.

like I'm not gonna say huhi is gonna flop or anything, but from the information available the move seems dumb as hell.

edit:
he also says he wasn't given any prior warning/notice on improving such aspects so it seems like CLG just thinks huhi is straight up better.

From what has been said so far, it sounds like Pob just didnt want to do the switching in and out thing. (Huhi says he was supposed to be the starter in first place but was owned by visa issues)
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-26 22:54:30
October 26 2015 22:53 GMT
#47
Dude, CLG.

Probably, Worlds was too big of a wake-up call and instead of actually focusing on things they could improve, they threw away Eugene, because he was a third threat in team and Aphromoo decided to not retire in the end or whatever.

Like, hell, I was expecting CLG to go with same roster into 2nd split for once, at least because they won something finally, everyone was happy and well, shit happens at Worlds, w/e, just come back and improve. But naaaaaaah.

2013 Spring - HotshotGG, Chauster, Link, Doublelift, Aphromoo.
2013 Summer - Nien, bigfatlpjiji, Link, Doublelift, Chauster
2014 Spring - Nien, dexter, Link, Doublelift, Aphromoo
2014 Summer - Seraph, dexter, Link, Doublelift, Aphromoo
2015 Spring - ZionSpartan, Xmithie, Link, Doublelift, Aphromoo
2015 Summer - ZionSpartan, Xmithie, Pobelter, Doublelift, Aphromoo

How the fuck are you expecting to be judged properly, if you can't even keep same players for more than 3 months.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 26 2015 23:42 GMT
#48
^^^ Yup
On October 25 2015 04:28 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 22:26 riporter wrote:
and if you ignore their current success you have the same counter argument.


It's not like their success was achieved due to some management victories or w/e.
Even broken clock is right twice per day and karma finally decided to give Doublelift some props.


And, more importantly, murder the rest of NA (they probably would have lost to gauntlet buff C9).

On October 27 2015 07:12 Harem wrote:
Pob just said on stream the benching is cause the management thought Huhi was much easier to teach and offered much better ideas in terms of macro play. It came as a huge shock to him too.

He said he has already had some lcs offers and will probably be on a team next split.


Of course, because he is like the 4-6th best NA mid. Even if he doesn't carry games at Worlds or against Bjergson, he is plenty good at being the Kuro of NA, and you can (and CLG did) build a winning team around not having an aggro-elite mid.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-27 00:02:13
October 27 2015 00:01 GMT
#49
On October 27 2015 07:45 krndandaman wrote:
rofl easier to teach?
whats clg smoking


first off, how much is there even to teach to a pro gamer? like he's not some new amateur, he already has multiple years of competitive experience.
second of all, even if the idea that huhi is easier to teach is true, do they think its large enough to risk a roster swap and produce better results than 1st NA and 3rd groups? if you're taking the roster swap risk already, get a more established better player.

honestly what more can you ask for from your midlaner? he's no bjergsen but he works with the LOWEST gold% share besides Keane.

so basically you feed 0 resources to your midlaner and then you dump him because apparently he's not easy to teach.

sounds like pob wasn't happy being a 0 resource midlaner and CLG took it as 'this kid cant be taught' when they told him to deal with it.

like I'm not gonna say huhi is gonna flop or anything, but from the information available the move seems dumb as hell.

edit:
he also says he wasn't given any prior warning/notice on improving such aspects so it seems like CLG just thinks huhi is straight up better.


Yes, let's take Pobelter's words for it on why he was removed from CLG. Makes total sense
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-27 00:05:25
October 27 2015 00:02 GMT
#50
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 27 2015 00:08 GMT
#51
It's still hearsay, Also it's about himself and why he was removed from the roster.

It's not about me defending CLG. This is more about having basic common sense.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-27 00:26:37
October 27 2015 00:24 GMT
#52
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-27 00:26:12
October 27 2015 00:25 GMT
#53
On October 27 2015 07:12 Harem wrote:
Pob just said on stream the benching is cause the management thought Huhi was much easier to teach and offered much better ideas in terms of macro play. It came as a huge shock to him too.

He said he has already had some lcs offers and will probably be on a team next split.


Makes sense to me. In terms of other teams wanting him. lol.
Skitter
Profile Joined August 2015
United States899 Posts
October 27 2015 01:24 GMT
#54
How does Immortals with
Hauntzer
Import
Pobelter
Import
Adrian

sound? To me it seems stronger than CLG
xd
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 27 2015 02:39 GMT
#55
Wouldn't be surprised to see Pob go to TSM based on the small talent pool in NA. He used to be top and he'd be an upgrade from Dyrus-- not going to match a import carry top, but it would allow TSM to swing a duolane with good synergy.
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EsanLOL
Profile Joined January 2015
479 Posts
October 27 2015 04:38 GMT
#56
On October 27 2015 10:24 Skitter wrote:
How does Immortals with
Hauntzer
Import
Pobelter
Import
Adrian

sound? To me it seems stronger than CLG


I think it's better to keep Porpoise jungle and use an import elsewhere. I could see see Porp+Pob+some other combo though. Then again, I also seem to think Porpoise is a lot better than other people think.
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
October 27 2015 04:52 GMT
#57
link 2 seasons
pobelter 1 split

dunno if huhi is better or not, probably nobody but clg knows (in scrim environment), but pobelter brought success in NA for clg for the first time in 3 years, and I wouldn't risk a good thing.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 27 2015 05:31 GMT
#58
Aren't CLG scrims well known to be the least reliable indicator in league history? I honestly can't think of something with more disparate results than CLG scrim rumors vs. reality. So it is likely something else.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
October 27 2015 12:09 GMT
#59
Curse/TL scrims.

On October 27 2015 10:24 Skitter wrote:
How does Immortals with
Hauntzer
Import
Pobelter
Import
Adrian

sound? To me it seems stronger than CLG


Considering that Altec is practicing with Adrian in Korea and rumours are that they're joining Impact, we'll see.
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Skitter
Profile Joined August 2015
United States899 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-27 12:28:37
October 27 2015 12:24 GMT
#60
Oh right, Adrian and Impact are a joint pair and they're rooming with Altec/Beeshoe lol. I forgot that...

Also I didn't really watch T8 games, esan, but where would you place Porpoise in NA?
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