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Lost My Will To Live
Profile Joined October 2014
Botswana601 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-17 22:42:56
February 17 2015 22:41 GMT
#21
On February 18 2015 07:35 AlterKot wrote:
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On February 18 2015 07:10 Lost My Will To Live wrote:
I mean, those are the meta picks though. Lissandra's mad popular, and so is Ahri. Froggen can still farm it out, but his playstyle will always lean towards farm it out and then win late game teamfights. It's been a staple of Froggen's teams since forever. The real reason Rekkles does not mesh with Elements is fairly simple. On Fnatic, his team consisted of Yellowstar (Playmaker), Xpeke (Playmaker), Soaz (Guy who always wants to 1v1 and cries when he gets ganked). So in that sense, you have a team surrounding him that will make the plays in the early to mid game to get an advantage and then funnel the farm into Rekkles so he can carry in the late game.

But now, you have passive mid laner, a jungler who has no idea what to do, a top laner who gets banned out every game, and a passive support. Put that all together and you get teams like KABUM who beat them early on l0l and there's no rebuttal. Teams like SK will lane swap, take a tower, laneswap back with BF vs Pickaxe and then shove your shit in and take more towers. While Rekkles is still farming, SK will be pounding on the mid turret up 2 towers and a dragon at around 10 minutes, and then continue to snowball the lead until Rekkles is finally able to "fight" with his 2 items at like 20-25 minutes. By then, SK will be up numerous towers and someone will jump Rekkles and he'll just run away from the fight while his team is trying to deal damage, but has no AD carry.

Dude EL's goal right now isn't to beat SK, it's to get fucking top3 before Fnatic and UOL leave them behind. Right now almost every western team would pale if you placed them in imaginary game against SK :p

EL would get their shit kicked in by Fnatic with the way they're playing. Even UOL would be a tossup. You cannot play a defensive style these days without any form of aggression, simply because you'll get your shit pushed in by any team that isn't AFK in game. If you watch Elements play, you'll see that they have no idea what they need to be doing, and that's why they get pushed around in game, playing a reactive style, which if you don't have decent warding or anything leaves you open to getting picked a lot, which is what Nyph is doing these days.
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AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
February 17 2015 22:52 GMT
#22
So what changed from S4? Because to me it just seems like they didn't change they playstyle and meta didn't change (much), it's just that they are overall worse - worse teamfighting, sloppier map movement and and worse individual performance all around.
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iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
February 17 2015 23:25 GMT
#23
On February 18 2015 07:52 AlterKot wrote:
So what changed from S4? Because to me it just seems like they didn't change they playstyle and meta didn't change (much), it's just that they are overall worse - worse teamfighting, sloppier map movement and and worse individual performance all around.

all their aggressiveness is gone and replaced with passiveness, tabzz (easily still top4 eu adc) still doesnt have a team.
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-17 23:51:05
February 17 2015 23:50 GMT
#24
Most other teams improved while alliance stayed the same.Deja vu clgeu
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
February 18 2015 00:27 GMT
#25
On February 18 2015 07:37 KissBlade wrote:
Rekkles can't play any mid game centric ADC's that are in atm. Plus he let all the "best ADC eu" get to his head and now has no basis whatsoever now that Forg1ven is in SK.

He was really good vs C9 and did a lot of plays at IEM on Graves/Corki. He can play mid game adc.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
February 18 2015 01:26 GMT
#26
Well there goes Wickd from my fantasy team
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SMaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Spain137 Posts
February 18 2015 08:58 GMT
#27
I don't see how replacing Wickd with kev1n is going to fix EL issues at all.
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
February 18 2015 14:43 GMT
#28
I don't think kev1n is a good toplaner but he is still better then wickd. Anyway, changes like this makes it interesting to watch the next elements games. xD

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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-18 14:44:41
February 18 2015 14:44 GMT
#29
im so sad

just kidding, it took three years to realize how bad Wickd is, good job Froggen.
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seenster
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany385 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-18 15:31:02
February 18 2015 14:47 GMT
#30
If and only IF their shotcalling (by Nyph) improves, they will do better, else nothing will change. Krepo would've been a way better pickup imho, but things are as they are...
Wijnruit
Profile Joined October 2014
Brazil294 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-18 17:15:59
February 18 2015 17:15 GMT
#31
Wickd is currently hosting an AMA in reddit: http://dd.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2wbrt9/i_am_wickd_ama/
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
February 18 2015 22:59 GMT
#32
Despite all the flak he's been getting all these years, I don't see how you can read that AMA and have anything other than complete respect for the guy.

He honestly seems like one of the most grounded, sane and mature people in the industry.
Wijnruit
Profile Joined October 2014
Brazil294 Posts
February 19 2015 01:43 GMT
#33
On February 19 2015 07:59 Mikau wrote:
Despite all the flak he's been getting all these years, I don't see how you can read that AMA and have anything other than complete respect for the guy.

He honestly seems like one of the most grounded, sane and mature people in the industry.


I got the same impression while reading his AMA, he and Snoopeh seem to be nice guys to talk about LoL pro scene.
seenster
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany385 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-19 12:45:16
February 19 2015 12:44 GMT
#34
Thorins thoughts on the rosterswap:

Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 19 2015 12:53 GMT
#35
He plays Graves constantly, isn't graves mid game centric?
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