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New Season - New Thread: You can find the new thread here
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/liquid-legends/497276-rumors-thread
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 04 2015 05:45 GMT
#881
--- Nuked ---
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 04 2015 09:42 GMT
#882
On May 03 2015 07:16 Prog wrote:
Sure, but lots of jobs have clauses that forbid you to work for a competitor for x months after you leave.


Edit: Moreover it is probably not the best comparison between a usual job and a lcs player. Rather look at traditional sports where you can't just quit and go to another team whenever you feel like doing so.

Here most contracts can potentially let the company invoke that clause when you leave them/they fire you, however it also includes a compensation (because you're basically unable to find a decent job since they don't let you work in your field, unless you have other qualifications). So it's something they can do, but they usually skip because it costs them money.

In the present case you have to pay them money if you wanna go elsewhere. Granted, there are usually big fees for player transfers in other sports (which transit between the teams more than the players).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 04 2015 15:58 GMT
#883
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=helioscarlet
Seems that helios has been duoing with shiphtur, it was nice knowing gamsu but time to make way for N E P O T I S M B O Y S
Glorious SEA doto
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 04 2015 16:09 GMT
#884
On May 05 2015 00:58 Fusilero wrote:
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=helioscarlet
Seems that helios has been duoing with shiphtur, it was nice knowing gamsu but time to make way for N E P O T I S M B O Y S


I can only see this as Gamsu going to a better team. No wait it's dig. Kicking your best player makes 100% sense!
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 16:14:15
May 04 2015 16:09 GMT
#885
On May 05 2015 00:58 Fusilero wrote:
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=helioscarlet
Seems that helios has been duoing with shiphtur, it was nice knowing gamsu but time to make way for N E P O T I S M B O Y S

Are you saying that Helios will only play with Avalon? Dig should keep Core/Gamsu, but if they got rid of one (for foreign limits?) then you'd think it would be Core.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
May 04 2015 16:11 GMT
#886
On May 05 2015 01:09 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 00:58 Fusilero wrote:
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=helioscarlet
Seems that helios has been duoing with shiphtur, it was nice knowing gamsu but time to make way for N E P O T I S M B O Y S

Are you saying that Helios will only play with Avalon?


It makes no sense for them to kick either players. Helios would be an upgrade over Azingy for sure though.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 16:16:23
May 04 2015 16:16 GMT
#887
On May 05 2015 01:09 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 00:58 Fusilero wrote:
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=helioscarlet
Seems that helios has been duoing with shiphtur, it was nice knowing gamsu but time to make way for N E P O T I S M B O Y S

Are you saying that Helios will only play with Avalon? Dig should keep Core/Gamsu, but if they got rid of one (for foreign limits?) then you'd think it would be Core.


They don't need to sacrifice anyway.
Gamsu/CoreJJ
Helios
Shiphtur/KiWiKid

Perfectly fine setup if we need to avoid limits.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 04 2015 16:40 GMT
#888
Helios isn't a resident yet, he was only grandfathered in because he was already on winterfox/EG but he can't join another team with 2 foreigners.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 17:23:15
May 04 2015 16:53 GMT
#889
On May 05 2015 01:40 AsnSensation wrote:
Helios isn't a resident yet, he was only grandfathered in because he was already on winterfox/EG but he can't join another team with 2 foreigners.


So you want to tell me that

Gamsu/CoreJJ
Helios
Shiphtur/KiWiKiD

is different from

Avalon/Imagine
Helios
Pobelter/Altec

?

LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
EsanLOL
Profile Joined January 2015
479 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 17:07:07
May 04 2015 17:06 GMT
#890
This case is specifically mentioned as being permissible on Riot's Interregional Movement Policy page:

Team is starting three residents [Shiphtur, Kiwi, Azingy], two non-residents [Core, Gamsu], and wants to replace a resident [Azingy] with an exempt non-resident [Helios].


http://na.lolesports.com/articles/interregional-movement-and-expansion-tournament

I don't think Helios is very good, but he is way better than Azingy. Plus, I guess it could make sense with the two Korean players. I still don't know why Azingy was ever an option for Dig in the first place.
Saradin
Profile Joined January 2015
456 Posts
May 04 2015 17:09 GMT
#891
The rules on this were pretty poorly worded (I don't think Riot knew exactly what they wanted at the time of writing), but the situations are slightly different.

Bjergsen/Lustboy followed by adding Santorin was a case of 2 exempted non-residents adding 1 more exempted non-residents (all 3 played in either NA LCS or CS by the time the rule was passed, IIRC). TSM was restricted from adding a non-exempt non-resident, so it was either resident or exempted non-resident.

Helios followed by Avalon/Imagine was 1 exempt non-resident followed by 2 non-exempt non-resident. Bad wording of the rules here, as the common interpretation was that it shouldn't have been possible. But it seems that with 1 exempt non-resident, you can still add 2 non-exempt (similar with Impulse having XWX, then added Impact/Rush).

Gamsu/CoreJJ followed by Helios would be 2 non-exempt non-resident followed by 1 exempt non-resident. Looking at the news article on this here, that's actually explicitly listed as a permissable scenario.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 04 2015 17:12 GMT
#892
I still contend that that rules page was edited at some point, it seemed so clear when first posted.
Carrilord has arrived.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 04 2015 17:37 GMT
#893
On the contrary I feel like people had trouble understanding what the wording would mean in different situations ever since the rule first came.

Also is Lustboy really exempt? The rule was introduced before he joined TSM.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Saradin
Profile Joined January 2015
456 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 17:41:19
May 04 2015 17:39 GMT
#894
Lustboy joined a little over a month before the rule was implemented (he first played towards the end of July; rule was added in September)

Also, I would argue that the initial ambiguity that people had over the Winterfox/Impulse plans is a sign of poor wording of the rule. It shouldn't have been so controversial on first sight.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 04 2015 19:38 GMT
#895
On May 01 2015 03:56 Numy wrote:
TSM weren't more talented, they just brought in better players to get better than C9 lol.


Same thoughts as me and now C9 have no choice but to replace Hai.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 04 2015 21:18 GMT
#896
http://www.dailydot.com/esports/stixxay-counter-logic-gaming-black/
Stixxay wants out of CLG Black, but hotshot and co. won't let him :O
Glorious SEA doto
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 21:21:05
May 04 2015 21:20 GMT
#897
Yay CLG news... oh...

Well at least there will be new Reddit jokes about CLG.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Wita
Profile Joined January 2015
Denmark267 Posts
May 04 2015 21:37 GMT
#898
A contract is a contract. Kids gotta learn that.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 04 2015 21:46 GMT
#899
On May 05 2015 06:37 Wita wrote:
A contract is a contract. Kids gotta learn that.


? There seemed to be a buyout clause in it but CLG refuses to accept it. All he's learning is that people are assholes and will be assholes if given the chance. Seems it's a case of the buyout clause being more like a "suggestion" than an actual clause. Either that or CLG is just full of shit and he can leave if he wants.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 04 2015 21:49 GMT
#900
Ok so for a change I'll actually post something that this thread was actually created for - Alex followed Mattcom and Zikz on Twitter!!!!

Also:

http://ask.fm/nuk3duck/answer/129010727851
fuck ;_:

http://ask.fm/YamatoCannon/answer/126506020187
oooooh?
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
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