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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 18 2015 00:58 GMT
#661
On February 18 2015 09:16 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 09:09 Alaric wrote:
The Standard used to be that spell that made you an your team tankier and attack faster.
So... now it's you AS buff to jungle faster and combo piece for EQ and nothing more?

Still has an AS aura.

That Hexcore CDR though.


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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 18 2015 01:42 GMT
#662
I'm glad that they came to their senses on the Morde changes
Carrilord has arrived.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
February 18 2015 02:01 GMT
#663
so top hec seems super strong atm, i dumpstered one in lane as rumble he still shits on my botlane in team fights
the fact he can push any lane and group in no time thx to massive move speed makes it easy to get super farmed and roam/have huge pressure on the map at the same time, seems like a recipe for a great soloQ champ
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 18 2015 02:03 GMT
#664
On February 18 2015 11:01 kongoline wrote:
so top hec seems super strong atm, i dumpstered one in lane as rumble he still shits on my botlane in team fights
the fact he can push any lane and group in no time thx to massive move speed makes it easy to get super farmed and roam/have huge pressure on the map at the same time, seems like a recipe for a great soloQ champ

Some say Amazing J is still haunting top lane with his pony. I still think midlane Hec is superior though, you can get away with a more damage oriented first item
liftlift > tsm
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 18 2015 02:05 GMT
#665
On February 18 2015 11:03 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 11:01 kongoline wrote:
so top hec seems super strong atm, i dumpstered one in lane as rumble he still shits on my botlane in team fights
the fact he can push any lane and group in no time thx to massive move speed makes it easy to get super farmed and roam/have huge pressure on the map at the same time, seems like a recipe for a great soloQ champ

Some say Amazing J is still haunting top lane with his pony. I still think midlane Hec is superior though, you can get away with a more damage oriented first item


From all toplane ponies played in competitive league, you went with Energy Pacemaker's one.
I appreciate such effort.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 18 2015 02:05 GMT
#666
On February 18 2015 11:03 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 11:01 kongoline wrote:
so top hec seems super strong atm, i dumpstered one in lane as rumble he still shits on my botlane in team fights
the fact he can push any lane and group in no time thx to massive move speed makes it easy to get super farmed and roam/have huge pressure on the map at the same time, seems like a recipe for a great soloQ champ

Some say Amazing J is still haunting top lane with his pony. I still think midlane Hec is superior though, you can get away with a more damage oriented first item

Idk, aiming Triforce and audibling to IBG seems reasonable in top lane against non AP lanes.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 18 2015 02:16 GMT
#667
it only makes sense, Pony has always been really strong if he can farm but his jungle pressure was weak, finding match ups where he can survive lane was all it took.
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 18 2015 02:17 GMT
#668
On February 18 2015 11:05 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 11:03 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 18 2015 11:01 kongoline wrote:
so top hec seems super strong atm, i dumpstered one in lane as rumble he still shits on my botlane in team fights
the fact he can push any lane and group in no time thx to massive move speed makes it easy to get super farmed and roam/have huge pressure on the map at the same time, seems like a recipe for a great soloQ champ

Some say Amazing J is still haunting top lane with his pony. I still think midlane Hec is superior though, you can get away with a more damage oriented first item


From all toplane ponies played in competitive league, you went with Energy Pacemaker's one.
I appreciate such effort.

took a game from korean golfers. #worth.
liftlift > tsm
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 18 2015 02:39 GMT
#669
On February 18 2015 08:50 Gahlo wrote:
Fuck. Yes.

Riot actually looking into jungling in a useful manner:
http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/8bjulQZi-jungle-data-gathering-help-us-know-your-early-game-better

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/02/217-pbe-update.html
rip Standard armor. =[

Mandrake ward looks pretty cool.


noone better jungle malzahar on pbe so they can't see how broken it is
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
February 18 2015 05:11 GMT
#670
On February 18 2015 11:16 Slusher wrote:
it only makes sense, Pony has always been really strong if he can farm but his jungle pressure was weak, finding match ups where he can survive lane was all it took.


he's been my go to jungler for the last few months just because he is super easy to gank with and forces team fights to break out on your own terms quite easily
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-18 05:55:00
February 18 2015 05:54 GMT
#671
lol this Mandrake ward, pinging map when enemy champion appears in 900 range? Hilarious shit.

Also that Riftwalk range nerf on Kass ^_^

Warrior enchantment damage reduced to 40 from 45 :<<<<

Aaaand new items ideas for AP mages, I like these.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 18 2015 05:57 GMT
#672
On February 18 2015 14:54 739 wrote:
lol this Mandrake ward, pinging map when enemy champion appears in 900 range? Hilarious shit.

Also that Riftwalk range nerf on Kass ^_^

Warrior enchantment damage reduced to 40 from 45 :<<<<

Aaaand new items ideas for AP mages, I like these.

Do AP mages really need more items? ADC's really need some fucking love in their item choices.
liftlift > tsm
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
February 18 2015 05:59 GMT
#673
next patch will be RIP Kassadin patch if the PBE changes go through
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
February 18 2015 06:01 GMT
#674
On February 18 2015 14:57 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 14:54 739 wrote:
lol this Mandrake ward, pinging map when enemy champion appears in 900 range? Hilarious shit.

Also that Riftwalk range nerf on Kass ^_^

Warrior enchantment damage reduced to 40 from 45 :<<<<

Aaaand new items ideas for AP mages, I like these.

Do AP mages really need more items? ADC's really need some fucking love in their item choices.

how would you help ADC itemization?
boots + IE + AS/CRIT item + LW
is likely always going to dominate their builds
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
February 18 2015 06:02 GMT
#675
On February 18 2015 14:57 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 14:54 739 wrote:
lol this Mandrake ward, pinging map when enemy champion appears in 900 range? Hilarious shit.

Also that Riftwalk range nerf on Kass ^_^

Warrior enchantment damage reduced to 40 from 45 :<<<<

Aaaand new items ideas for AP mages, I like these.

Do AP mages really need more items? ADC's really need some fucking love in their item choices.

Same story. What you have for AP now? Dcap, Zhonya, Void, Morello/Athenes, Archangel, RoA (I don't count Liandries and Lichbane). ADCs have BOTRK, BT, IE, LW, BlackCleaver, TF, Ghostblade (Manamune not counted), so it looks like it's almost the same situation.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 18 2015 06:04 GMT
#676
On February 18 2015 15:01 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 14:57 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 18 2015 14:54 739 wrote:
lol this Mandrake ward, pinging map when enemy champion appears in 900 range? Hilarious shit.

Also that Riftwalk range nerf on Kass ^_^

Warrior enchantment damage reduced to 40 from 45 :<<<<

Aaaand new items ideas for AP mages, I like these.

Do AP mages really need more items? ADC's really need some fucking love in their item choices.

how would you help ADC itemization?
boots + IE + AS/CRIT item + LW
is likely always going to dominate their builds

I would still like high crit item with no AS modifier, as to maximize damage per shot, to allow for maximum kiting per shot.
liftlift > tsm
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 18 2015 06:10 GMT
#677
AP's getting more items is like a billionaire winning the lottery.

Silly considering the options they already have.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 18 2015 06:13 GMT
#678
On February 18 2015 15:10 iCanada wrote:
AP's getting more items is like a billionaire winning the lottery.

Silly considering the options they already have.

Yeah i feel AP's get a lot more love in defensive itemization without sacrificing damage.

What do ADC's get without sacrificing damage? The closest items I can think of are Maw+Scimitar.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 18 2015 06:16 GMT
#679
On February 18 2015 14:57 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 14:54 739 wrote:
lol this Mandrake ward, pinging map when enemy champion appears in 900 range? Hilarious shit.

Also that Riftwalk range nerf on Kass ^_^

Warrior enchantment damage reduced to 40 from 45 :<<<<

Aaaand new items ideas for AP mages, I like these.

Do AP mages really need more items? ADC's really need some fucking love in their item choices.

This is supposed to make up for DFG getting removed.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 18 2015 06:17 GMT
#680
On February 18 2015 15:16 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 14:57 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 18 2015 14:54 739 wrote:
lol this Mandrake ward, pinging map when enemy champion appears in 900 range? Hilarious shit.

Also that Riftwalk range nerf on Kass ^_^

Warrior enchantment damage reduced to 40 from 45 :<<<<

Aaaand new items ideas for AP mages, I like these.

Do AP mages really need more items? ADC's really need some fucking love in their item choices.

This is supposed to make up for DFG getting removed.

I thought that's what the insane ahri buff was. lol.
liftlift > tsm
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