EPTPiglet Played vs C9 without Masteries - Page 2
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mechengineer123
Ukraine711 Posts
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itsjustatank
Hong Kong9179 Posts
On February 02 2015 02:16 alereu wrote: Until you have played at that level, under that pressure, you have no right to call someone incompetent for a simple mistake. Seriously, not a big deal. The Kalista pick was really smart, C9 is a top tier team, not a big deal they lost. I don't care if you play on a stage and you get paid money to do so, if you forget things like this you are not a professional. Not a big deal? They lost the game. As a professional, you play to win, and if you do not give yourself every legal advantage to do so, you have failed. There is absolutely no excuse, and it should not be accepted. It can never happen again. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On February 02 2015 03:12 itsjustatank wrote: I don't care if you play on a stage and you get paid money to do so, if you forget things like this you are not a professional. Not a big deal? They lost the game. As a professional, you play to win, and if you do not give yourself every legal advantage to do so, you have failed. There is absolutely no excuse, and it should not be accepted. It can never happen again. shit happens... | ||
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Nohiko
71 Posts
I don't care if you play on a stage and you get paid money to do so, if you forget things like this you are not a professional. Not a big deal? They lost the game. As a professional, you play to win, and if you do not give yourself every legal advantage to do so, you have failed. There is absolutely no excuse, and it should not be accepted. It can never happen again. That is being way to harsh in my opinion. Shit happens, people make mistakes. There is nothing that says a proffesional can't/shouldn't make mistakes. | ||
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itsjustatank
Hong Kong9179 Posts
On February 02 2015 03:53 Nohiko wrote: That is being way to harsh in my opinion. Shit happens, people make mistakes. There is nothing that says a proffesional can't/shouldn't make mistakes. If League of Legends strives to be considered a professional activity, a sport even as Riot has begun calling it in recent times, simple and fatal oversights like this are absolutely not acceptable. Forgetting your masteries is something most people can find acceptable in their own play because they are not a professional. To be a professional is to be a step above the other people who may be playing the same game. A professional game is a cut above a game played at lower levels. If it is to be a professional activity, a sport, you should expect and demand excellence at all turns. | ||
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Baffels
United States1486 Posts
On February 02 2015 04:33 itsjustatank wrote: If League of Legends strives to be considered a professional activity, a sport even as Riot has begun calling it in recent times, simple and fatal oversights like this are absolutely not acceptable. Forgetting your masteries is something most people can find acceptable in their own play because they are not a professional. To be a professional is to be a step above the other people who may be playing the same game. A professional game is a cut above a game played at lower levels. If it is to be a professional activity, a sport, you should expect and demand excellence at all turns. Yeah, thats why there is noo fighting or flopping in professional sports right? I mean no professional soccer/football player would bite another during the biggest event in 4 years. That would be so unprofessional no one would ever take soccer/football seriously again. Jeez, high horse much? | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
On February 02 2015 04:33 itsjustatank wrote: If League of Legends strives to be considered a professional activity, a sport even as Riot has begun calling it in recent times, simple and fatal oversights like this are absolutely not acceptable. Forgetting your masteries is something most people can find acceptable in their own play because they are not a professional. To be a professional is to be a step above the other people who may be playing the same game. A professional game is a cut above a game played at lower levels. If it is to be a professional activity, a sport, you should expect and demand excellence at all turns. Because pro players in sports never ever massively fuck up right? | ||
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
Don't even get me started on runes, which are exclusively a cash grab. | ||
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itsjustatank
Hong Kong9179 Posts
On February 02 2015 04:52 Slaughter wrote: Because pro players in sports never ever massively fuck up right? They may fuck up but it remains unprofessional, and commentary around instances when that happens isn't the "oh it's okay" soft whitewash that people are engaging in in this thread. They are publicly ridiculed and people lose their jobs when it happens. It remains unacceptable and it should not be allowed to happen again. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On February 02 2015 05:25 TigerKarl wrote: Masteries shouldn't be in the game. They only give the illusion of more depth in the game. Don't even get me started on runes, which are exclusively a cash grab. Yeah they only give the illusion of more depth, that's why everyone always runs the same runes and masteries. :^) | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On February 02 2015 06:41 Ansibled wrote: Yeah they only give the illusion of more depth, that's why everyone always runs the same runes and masteries. :^) At the same time, I don't know how Riot is ok with Runes/Masteries being an out-of-game decision that can affect in-game results, but try and pretend that Pick/Ban doesn't exist | ||
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Faker_Fanboy
70 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On February 02 2015 06:51 Zess wrote: At the same time, I don't know how Riot is ok with Runes/Masteries being an out-of-game decision that can affect in-game results, but try and pretend that Pick/Ban doesn't exist What do you mean? I don't really follow. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On February 02 2015 07:27 Ansibled wrote: What do you mean? I don't really follow. Back when the community really pushed for having multiple bans / more in-depth bans, one of the justifications against it given by Zileas was that decisions outside of the game shouldn't really influence what happens in the game and the final outcome. But it has remained true that Pick/Ban has a tremendous influence on the outcome and playstyle of a game. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On February 02 2015 10:21 Zess wrote: Back when the community really pushed for having multiple bans / more in-depth bans, one of the justifications against it given by Zileas was that decisions outside of the game shouldn't really influence what happens in the game and the final outcome. But it has remained true that Pick/Ban has a tremendous influence on the outcome and playstyle of a game. Oh, I see. I don't think the ban number needs to go up from three, although something like captains mode would be interesting. That is a really terrible reason for it though. | ||
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iamcaustic
Canada1509 Posts
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On February 02 2015 05:25 TigerKarl wrote: Don't even get me started on runes, which are exclusively a cash grab. How can runes be "exclusively" a cash grab when you can't even purchase them with money, and your account comes with 2 free rune pages? Rune pages that can be obtained with IP, which again, can not be purchased with money. | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
It is actually very common to not use mastery pages especially in high korean elo. This way you show the enemy that you are strong enough to beat him without masteries and he might gets scared. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On February 03 2015 08:01 TitusVI wrote: Korean insider here. It is actually very common to not use mastery pages especially in high korean elo. This way you show the enemy that you are strong enough to beat him without masteries and he might gets scared. If only you were an LCS insider then I'd believe you. I do not believe he meant to do this on purpose. | ||
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