EPTso we could just make moves on our own. but instead they become low priority promises that keep people quitting/transfering/keeping up to date replay stuff.
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
so we could just make moves on our own. but instead they become low priority promises that keep people quitting/transfering/keeping up to date replay stuff. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 31 2014 00:43 Kupon3ss wrote: sure, if you consider those individual regions, then sure But looking at things historically at more or less the only tournament that matters - the most riot approved one S2 featured a winner from SEA with NA being clearly the weakest region S3 featured a winner from Korea, with EU and China both having a pair of semifinalists and SEA/NA being roughly equal S4 saw NA get their shit together a bit and end up edging out EU The grand total of NA wins at international tournaments over the last 3 years is... IEM San Jose... and BotA? oh and an MLG and IGN from like 2012 NA may not be absolutely last since S4 finals, but it has indeed historically been the weakest region You forgot about S1: | ||
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Kupon3ss
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Mensol
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C9,CLG and Curse are the only notable American teams. I agree with Doublelift that TSM not even American team, just their organization is American. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 31 2014 01:40 Kupon3ss wrote: wasn't S1 just a lot of EU>NA before lol was even released in the regions that matter competitively? Yes, I just wanted to post that video. EDIT: Though NA also got shafted at S1 because pausing the game didn't exist yet so Riot made Epik play a 4v5 for 10 minutes rather than remake the game. EDIT 2: Also, NA>EU in S1 until Riot decided that 3 solo lanes + full time roaming support was antifun, so they gutted all the common roamers and told everyone to play the "EU meta". | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Don't think clg have ever had a roster competent enough to reach higher than #3 in na since lcs started so no wonder they haven't. | ||
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
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kongoline
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On December 31 2014 03:26 IamPryda wrote: Right now I think the pecking order for season 5 is china>Korea>na>sea>eu. But who knows maybe this big influx of Korea talent into china won't be enough to stop the top Korean teams at world. This is a joke right. You think sea is better than eu and china is better than Korea. NA and EU are always neck and neck with EU constantly edging NA out. I'd be surprised if a Chinese team even looked competitive with a Korean team in Season 5 worlds. Even now SKT would put any Chinese team in the dumpster and make it look trivially easy. With the exception of OMG, if they can mesh well with Uzi, they could really turn some heads | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 31 2014 04:15 TheYango wrote: Korea vs. China comes down to whether Korea trains its new talent faster than China overcomes the language barrier. Kespa teams really fucked up by letting good Koreans leave for Chinese teams. No doubt Korea can train and find players of same skill level, but they've let their enemies have access to their already trained players. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On December 31 2014 04:11 MattBarry wrote: This is a joke right. You think sea is better than eu and china is better than Korea. NA and EU are always neck and neck with EU constantly edging NA out. I'd be surprised if a Chinese team even looked competitive with a Korean team in Season 5 worlds. Even now SKT would put any Chinese team in the dumpster and make it look trivially easy. With the exception of OMG, if they can mesh well with Uzi, they could really turn some heads Not this year. SEA ahead of EU is a bit silly though. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On December 31 2014 05:09 Gahlo wrote: Not this year. SEA ahead of EU is a bit silly though. really? C9 did better at worlds, (with sk being down svenskeren in groups and alliance going full retarded against kabuum) but clg and tsm both just got stomped by supposedly b tier euw teams. honestly it currently looks like C9 > top 3-5 euw teams >>> rest of na/euw which doesn't really make NA the all around "stronger" region. It's going to be interesting to see what happens when the dust settles and the new euw squads start getting comfortable. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
shit silver players say. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On December 31 2014 05:15 killerdog wrote: really? C9 did better at worlds, (with sk being down svenskeren in groups and alliance going full retarded against kabuum) but clg and tsm both just got stomped by supposedly b tier euw teams. honestly it currently looks like C9 > top 3-5 euw teams >>> rest of na/euw which doesn't really make NA the all around "stronger" region. It's going to be interesting to see what happens when the dust settles and the new euw squads start getting comfortable. + Show Spoiler + Kinda hard to judge anything off of Bo1s. In the end, the only results that actually matter is that 2 NA teams went through an no EU teams did. Also, CLG didn't even make it to worlds. | ||
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loSleb
Austria1389 Posts
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/user/RekklesLoL Rekkles is doing AMA on reddit, some pretty cool answers (for example he doesn't think ALL players are better than his former teammates but more motivated). | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On December 31 2014 05:30 Gahlo wrote: Kinda hard to judge anything off of Bo1s. In the end, the only results that actually matter is that 2 NA teams went through an no EU teams did. Also, CLG didn't even make it to worlds. "Kinda hard to judge anything off of Bo1s" "I'll base my arguments off a few teams playing a few bo1's" We just had two more tournaments where the supposed best (according to summer playoffs) na team, and clg, supposedly the third best, both got completely wrecked by euw teams who weren't even in lcs last split. And these were Bo3's. At this point it's a question of c9 vs whichever of alliance/peke's new team/whichever other eu teams actually survive until lcs starts. In terms of depth the last two events pretty much showed that (at least in preseason) euw has much more depth then NA does. You can't claim tsm going through at worlds matters, but them getting absolutely trashed by uol is irrelevant. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On December 31 2014 06:30 killerdog wrote: "Kinda hard to judge anything off of Bo1s" "I'll base my arguments off a few teams playing a few bo1's" We just had two more tournaments where the supposed best (according to summer playoffs) na team, and clg, supposedly the third best, both got completely wrecked by euw teams who weren't even in lcs last split. And these were Bo3's. At this point it's a question of c9 vs whichever of alliance/peke's new team/whichever other eu teams actually survive until lcs starts. In terms of depth the last two events pretty much showed that (at least in preseason) euw has much more depth then NA does. You can't claim tsm going through at worlds matters, but them getting absolutely trashed by uol is irrelevant. A group is a lot more relevant of a measure than a Bo2 where all of them were split 1:1. I absolute can claim that TSM performance at worlds mean more than a preseason tournament. TSM said before the event to not expect anything from them. But then again I guess the team name has to be named Fnatic and the show of not caring/being in mid season form has to be delayed until AFTER the tournament to be valid. | ||
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