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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 27 2014 21:19 GMT
#861
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-27 21:26:25
May 27 2014 21:20 GMT
#862
On May 28 2014 06:18 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 06:11 Fusilero wrote:
On May 28 2014 06:10 zer0das wrote:
On May 28 2014 05:48 Fildun wrote:
Bly, you should try Crusader Kings 2. Same style, more action imo.

Also yeah, just read the EG article and it basically says "I think these players are shit and so should you".


Crusader Kings 2 takes so much time investment, even though I love the game, I can't really recommend it to anyone. Unless you hate yourself.

What EG article are you talking about?

http://www.esportsheaven.com/articles/view/5244
Tl;dr EG sucks, even complexity is better (DAMN SON)

I think Richard gets a lot of crap he doesn't deserve but this article makes no sense, he says they should have replaced 3 (in addition to YP) different guys, none of which are InnoX, and even pretending that wouldn't auto lose your LCS spot due to a rules violation he just says it with 0 suggestion as to whom might be available.

I actually do expect more from him then this.

I find it funny how he's hating on pobelter despite the fact he just got out of school to finally play this game full time. Like, did he seriously expect some kid who's still going through high school for majority of his time to play like the best in NA? He played pretty well throughout last split despite his schedule.

And let's be honest here, there's no fucking guarantee that any team other than c9 isn't going to end up in relegation. The teams are so fucking stacked this split. Even major changes across their roster, removing Snoopeh and Innox, with better counterparts, wouldn't leave them in any spot in LCS that would effectively make them relegation proof.

Dig/LMQ/CLG/TSM/C9 are all fucking power house teams right now, are you saying replacing snoopeh and innox with the best free agents would make them contend with these teams? Doubt it. Even Crs is pretty strong this split, putting out scary games against the best teams.
liftlift > tsm
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 27 2014 21:21 GMT
#863
based on performance alone, replace everyone except pobelter/krepo, but doing so also guts the team and new players might not gel with old players. Innox still can't 1v2 though for some reason and he had a whole offseason to work on this.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 27 2014 21:22 GMT
#864
Pobelter/Altec as literally the young piglet/faker will probably keep EG competitive by themselves with enough time, innox and snoopeh are probably liabilities (though I didn't actually have too many problems with snoopeh this week even in the 0-4, he was restrained by innox getting dumpstered more than anything else). I think adding altec is a good start and EG should at least give themselves time, who knows maybe innox will literally become best top NA :>
Glorious SEA doto
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
May 27 2014 21:23 GMT
#865
On May 28 2014 06:20 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 06:18 Slusher wrote:
On May 28 2014 06:11 Fusilero wrote:
On May 28 2014 06:10 zer0das wrote:
On May 28 2014 05:48 Fildun wrote:
Bly, you should try Crusader Kings 2. Same style, more action imo.

Also yeah, just read the EG article and it basically says "I think these players are shit and so should you".


Crusader Kings 2 takes so much time investment, even though I love the game, I can't really recommend it to anyone. Unless you hate yourself.

What EG article are you talking about?

http://www.esportsheaven.com/articles/view/5244
Tl;dr EG sucks, even complexity is better (DAMN SON)

I think Richard gets a lot of crap he doesn't deserve but this article makes no sense, he says they should have replaced 3 (in addition to YP) different guys, none of which are InnoX, and even pretending that wouldn't auto lose your LCS spot due to a rules violation he just says it with 0 suggestion as to whom might be available.

I actually do expect more from him then this.

I find it funny how he's hating on pobelter despite the fact he just got out of school to finally play this game full time. Like, did he seriously expect some kid who's still going through high school for majority of his time to play like the best in NA? He played pretty well throughout last split despite his schedule.


The best part is that he calls him not dedicated and unmotivated, and that LCS is "secondary to other ambitions in life"
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 27 2014 21:26 GMT
#866
On May 28 2014 06:22 Fusilero wrote:
Pobelter/Altec as literally the young piglet/faker will probably keep EG competitive by themselves with enough time, innox and snoopeh are probably liabilities (though I didn't actually have too many problems with snoopeh this week even in the 0-4, he was restrained by innox getting dumpstered more than anything else). I think adding altec is a good start and EG should at least give themselves time, who knows maybe innox will literally become best top NA :>


The game vs. Dig (typed coast first lol) Snoopeh had like 20 cs at 25 min because of trying to bail out InnoX by camping and giving him the entire blue side of the jungle.
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-27 21:30:28
May 27 2014 21:27 GMT
#867
On May 28 2014 06:26 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 06:22 Fusilero wrote:
Pobelter/Altec as literally the young piglet/faker will probably keep EG competitive by themselves with enough time, innox and snoopeh are probably liabilities (though I didn't actually have too many problems with snoopeh this week even in the 0-4, he was restrained by innox getting dumpstered more than anything else). I think adding altec is a good start and EG should at least give themselves time, who knows maybe innox will literally become best top NA :>


The game vs. Dig (typed coast first lol) Snoopeh had like 20 cs at 25 min because of trying to bail out InnoX by camping and giving him the entire blue side of the jungle.

snoopeh literally this splits nintendudex
On May 28 2014 06:22 Fusilero wrote:
Pobelter/Altec as literally the young piglet/faker will probably keep EG competitive by themselves with enough time, innox and snoopeh are probably liabilities (though I didn't actually have too many problems with snoopeh this week even in the 0-4, he was restrained by innox getting dumpstered more than anything else). I think adding altec is a good start and EG should at least give themselves time, who knows maybe innox will literally become best top NA :>

Pretty much agree on this.
Pobelter is playing at a very acceptable skill level for LCS mids. He's not the best, but he's not the worst, and this was considering the fact that he was in high school, there's only room for him to get better.
Altec is already a very solid improvement over Yellowpete, needs more time to jelly with krep0, but both these players are worth keeping.
Snoopeh sucks, but are there better replacements? pro-level junglers are hard to find.
Innox is very meh, but meta-playing top laners is even harder to find. Maybe Californiatrolz? At least when he plays yolo champs, he goes full yolo.
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 27 2014 21:28 GMT
#868
On May 28 2014 06:27 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 06:26 Slusher wrote:
On May 28 2014 06:22 Fusilero wrote:
Pobelter/Altec as literally the young piglet/faker will probably keep EG competitive by themselves with enough time, innox and snoopeh are probably liabilities (though I didn't actually have too many problems with snoopeh this week even in the 0-4, he was restrained by innox getting dumpstered more than anything else). I think adding altec is a good start and EG should at least give themselves time, who knows maybe innox will literally become best top NA :>


The game vs. Dig (typed coast first lol) Snoopeh had like 20 cs at 25 min because of trying to bail out InnoX by camping and giving him the entire blue side of the jungle.

snoopeh literally this splits nintendudex

Borkborkshard pls
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 27 2014 21:31 GMT
#869
On May 28 2014 06:28 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 06:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 28 2014 06:26 Slusher wrote:
On May 28 2014 06:22 Fusilero wrote:
Pobelter/Altec as literally the young piglet/faker will probably keep EG competitive by themselves with enough time, innox and snoopeh are probably liabilities (though I didn't actually have too many problems with snoopeh this week even in the 0-4, he was restrained by innox getting dumpstered more than anything else). I think adding altec is a good start and EG should at least give themselves time, who knows maybe innox will literally become best top NA :>


The game vs. Dig (typed coast first lol) Snoopeh had like 20 cs at 25 min because of trying to bail out InnoX by camping and giving him the entire blue side of the jungle.

snoopeh literally this splits nintendudex

Borkborkshard pls

coL beat c9. Borkshard > meteos confirmed.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-27 21:32:16
May 27 2014 21:31 GMT
#870
On May 28 2014 06:20 wei2coolman wrote:
And let's be honest here, there's no fucking guarantee that any team other than c9 isn't going to end up in relegation. The teams are so fucking stacked this split. Even major changes across their roster, removing Snoopeh and Innox, with better counterparts, wouldn't leave them in any spot in LCS that would effectively make them relegation proof.


no you didn't read the article or what I wrote, InnoX is the only player he does like. I'd say it's the best part of the article aside from the fact that the entire thing is a farce due to LCS 3 of 5 roster rules.
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 27 2014 21:33 GMT
#871
On May 28 2014 06:31 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 06:20 wei2coolman wrote:
And let's be honest here, there's no fucking guarantee that any team other than c9 isn't going to end up in relegation. The teams are so fucking stacked this split. Even major changes across their roster, removing Snoopeh and Innox, with better counterparts, wouldn't leave them in any spot in LCS that would effectively make them relegation proof.


no you didn't read the article or what I wrote, InnoX is the only player he does like. I'd say it's the best part of the article aside from the fact that the entire thing is a farce due to LCS 3 of 5 roster rules.

I read that part, the rest was mostly talking about my thoughts on EG's position. They're just sort of in a shitty position overall due to shallow talent pool.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-27 21:43:49
May 27 2014 21:41 GMT
#872
I mean that is a legitamate argument, like look at the role they replaced, was YP far and away the worst player on their team? no, but adc talent was available.
Carrilord has arrived.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 27 2014 21:41 GMT
#873
lol what game has that dude been watching if he thinks innoxs their best player
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-27 21:46:07
May 27 2014 21:43 GMT
#874
On May 28 2014 06:41 Slusher wrote:
I mean it's a legitamate argument, like look at the role they replaced, was YP far and away the worst player on their team? no, but adc talent was available.

I'm trying to think of a top laner that could replace innox in NA, only three that come to my mind are yazuki, megazero (I'm not even sure if he's still playing) and rhux. At best they are marginal upgrades, sidegrades or possibly downgrades to innox tbh. Jungle I guess there's nk inc?
The real answer is to follow Brazil, CLG and soon China in importing glorious Korean overlords
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-27 21:52:09
May 27 2014 21:51 GMT
#875
On May 28 2014 06:43 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 06:41 Slusher wrote:
I mean it's a legitamate argument, like look at the role they replaced, was YP far and away the worst player on their team? no, but adc talent was available.

I'm trying to think of a top laner that could replace innox in NA, only three that come to my mind are yazuki, megazero (I'm not even sure if he's still playing) and rhux. At best they are marginal upgrades, sidegrades or possibly downgrades to innox tbh. Jungle I guess there's nk inc?
The real answer is to follow Brazil, CLG and soon China in importing glorious Korean overlords

Pobelter is korean. How about altec? They're already 2/5ths there if altec is korean.


Californiatrlolz real replacement for innox.
liftlift > tsm
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-27 21:55:46
May 27 2014 21:54 GMT
#876
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 27 2014 21:55 GMT
#877
EG INSEC LETS GO
Carrilord has arrived.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 27 2014 21:57 GMT
#878
On May 28 2014 06:55 Slusher wrote:
EG INSEC LETS GO

SOLVE THE TALENT ISSUE BY HAVING HIM TOP AND JUNGLE AT THE SAME TIME
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 27 2014 22:01 GMT
#879
On May 28 2014 06:57 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 06:55 Slusher wrote:
EG INSEC LETS GO

SOLVE THE TALENT ISSUE BY HAVING HIM TOP AND JUNGLE AT THE SAME TIME

Eg maknoon and insec.
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 27 2014 22:02 GMT
#880
On May 28 2014 07:01 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 06:57 Fusilero wrote:
On May 28 2014 06:55 Slusher wrote:
EG INSEC LETS GO

SOLVE THE TALENT ISSUE BY HAVING HIM TOP AND JUNGLE AT THE SAME TIME

Eg maknoon and insec.

Maknoons too busy coaching BR teams
Glorious SEA doto
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