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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
March 28 2014 22:46 GMT
#2141
On March 29 2014 07:39 arb wrote:
Dunno why its not like it used to be anyway, one side had first ban the other first pick

?
2nd ban is better than 1st ban
not sure what you mean by what you just said, unless you mean that 2nd pick is superior to 1st pick
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Rooster Cogburn
Profile Joined October 2013
76 Posts
March 28 2014 22:50 GMT
#2142
So people have been playing donger top which counters a majority of top lane champs as far as I know(aka champs that get in your face and tank/wave clear). Do you think Riot will nerf him just because he can counter the meta even though he has many hard counters himself (Lux, Ziggs,Ori, Karthus, jayce, any long range caster)?
Chemiczny84
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland458 Posts
March 28 2014 22:55 GMT
#2143
just from a quick glance at those winrates, I knew blue side was ahead, but didn't think the difference was that big...
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 28 2014 22:58 GMT
#2144
On March 29 2014 07:08 Ketara wrote:
I wonder, if Riot were to change it for a month say, so that purple side gets 1st pick instead of blue, if that would change that 55% figure.


That would be interesting.

Alternatively, only analyze blind pick and team builder games.... gonna do this later tonight.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 28 2014 22:59 GMT
#2145
On March 29 2014 07:55 Chemiczny84 wrote:
just from a quick glance at those winrates, I knew blue side was ahead, but didn't think the difference was that big...


Yep. The difference is around 10%. For some champions (see, e.g. Rumble) the difference is even bigger.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
March 28 2014 23:01 GMT
#2146
On March 29 2014 07:50 Rooster Cogburn wrote:
So people have been playing donger top which counters a majority of top lane champs as far as I know(aka champs that get in your face and tank/wave clear). Do you think Riot will nerf him just because he can counter the meta even though he has many hard counters himself (Lux, Ziggs,Ori, Karthus, jayce, any long range caster)?


I'm pretty sure I saw nerfs on PBE yesterday.
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lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
March 28 2014 23:13 GMT
#2147
On March 29 2014 08:01 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 07:50 Rooster Cogburn wrote:
So people have been playing donger top which counters a majority of top lane champs as far as I know(aka champs that get in your face and tank/wave clear). Do you think Riot will nerf him just because he can counter the meta even though he has many hard counters himself (Lux, Ziggs,Ori, Karthus, jayce, any long range caster)?


I'm pretty sure I saw nerfs on PBE yesterday.


If I remember correctly, they turned down the dmg on the turrets to allow them to have their health scale with AP. Where is the new power coming from? Is it the fact that the beam is tied into the number of times the turrets shoot? I don't think they changed any of the dmg on the W and E.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 28 2014 23:23 GMT
#2148
On March 29 2014 08:13 lilwisper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 08:01 Diamond wrote:
On March 29 2014 07:50 Rooster Cogburn wrote:
So people have been playing donger top which counters a majority of top lane champs as far as I know(aka champs that get in your face and tank/wave clear). Do you think Riot will nerf him just because he can counter the meta even though he has many hard counters himself (Lux, Ziggs,Ori, Karthus, jayce, any long range caster)?


I'm pretty sure I saw nerfs on PBE yesterday.


If I remember correctly, they turned down the dmg on the turrets to allow them to have their health scale with AP. Where is the new power coming from? Is it the fact that the beam is tied into the number of times the turrets shoot? I don't think they changed any of the dmg on the W and E.


I'm pretty sure he was always doing that much damage, it was just going unnoticed or the turrets were dying to AOE too fast.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
March 28 2014 23:23 GMT
#2149
On March 29 2014 05:37 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 05:19 canikizu wrote:
On March 29 2014 05:13 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 29 2014 05:09 canikizu wrote:
Sufficiency,
can you use your data to compile to show which city(Noxus, Ionia, Demacia, Yordle city, Piltover,....) has the most win rate/ loss rate? Which city is the most popular, unpopular? Which one counters which one?


Yes, but I would need time to classify the champions and the results are not interesting =\

Especially when there are so many interesting things to look like (counters, synergies, blue/red advantage per champion, itemization, etc.)

Just do fun quick data, don't worry about people criticize on it. People will always try to sound smart on the internet anyway regardless of what you do.

I want data to show that my Piltover is superior than others.


Is there a list somewhere that has the origins of all the champions?

EDIT: found this:

http://i.imgur.com/Kl8PSGy.jpg

That looks like way too much work


Man, this is pretty cool, never seen something so concise.. Bit dated though, doesn't have Trundle under Freljord or Olaf. Also never realized Taric wasn't from Runeterra. Shows how much I pay attention to lore.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 28 2014 23:25 GMT
#2150
Also, did anybody else notice the Pantheon ult range nerf got reverted? It's back to 5500 all ranks it seems.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
March 28 2014 23:33 GMT
#2151
On March 29 2014 06:35 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 05:55 Doctorbeat wrote:
25 champions left to buy....

And I've been playing this game since early 2011, you'd think I'd be able to keep up.

Same. Only reason I have so many is because I sunk the 13k RP from the AmEx card into all the 6300s I didn't have at the time when they went on sale.

if you didn't degen all your amex rp on mystery skins for yourself you can consider it a complete waste imo.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
March 28 2014 23:38 GMT
#2152
On March 29 2014 08:23 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 08:13 lilwisper wrote:
On March 29 2014 08:01 Diamond wrote:
On March 29 2014 07:50 Rooster Cogburn wrote:
So people have been playing donger top which counters a majority of top lane champs as far as I know(aka champs that get in your face and tank/wave clear). Do you think Riot will nerf him just because he can counter the meta even though he has many hard counters himself (Lux, Ziggs,Ori, Karthus, jayce, any long range caster)?


I'm pretty sure I saw nerfs on PBE yesterday.


If I remember correctly, they turned down the dmg on the turrets to allow them to have their health scale with AP. Where is the new power coming from? Is it the fact that the beam is tied into the number of times the turrets shoot? I don't think they changed any of the dmg on the W and E.


I'm pretty sure he was always doing that much damage, it was just going unnoticed or the turrets were dying to AOE too fast.

I'm convinced this is it, because while taking all of his W to the face always hurt, now his towers are just around for ever to chip damage at you.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 28 2014 23:48 GMT
#2153
On March 29 2014 08:33 chalice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 06:35 Gahlo wrote:
On March 29 2014 05:55 Doctorbeat wrote:
25 champions left to buy....

And I've been playing this game since early 2011, you'd think I'd be able to keep up.

Same. Only reason I have so many is because I sunk the 13k RP from the AmEx card into all the 6300s I didn't have at the time when they went on sale.

if you didn't degen all your amex rp on mystery skins for yourself you can consider it a complete waste imo.


Still have some left, and might do this lol.
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
March 28 2014 23:56 GMT
#2154
On March 29 2014 08:33 chalice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 06:35 Gahlo wrote:
On March 29 2014 05:55 Doctorbeat wrote:
25 champions left to buy....

And I've been playing this game since early 2011, you'd think I'd be able to keep up.

Same. Only reason I have so many is because I sunk the 13k RP from the AmEx card into all the 6300s I didn't have at the time when they went on sale.

if you didn't degen all your amex rp on mystery skins for yourself you can consider it a complete waste imo.

I don't care about skins I don't want though.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
March 29 2014 00:03 GMT
#2155
On March 29 2014 08:56 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 08:33 chalice wrote:
On March 29 2014 06:35 Gahlo wrote:
On March 29 2014 05:55 Doctorbeat wrote:
25 champions left to buy....

And I've been playing this game since early 2011, you'd think I'd be able to keep up.

Same. Only reason I have so many is because I sunk the 13k RP from the AmEx card into all the 6300s I didn't have at the time when they went on sale.

if you didn't degen all your amex rp on mystery skins for yourself you can consider it a complete waste imo.

I don't care about skins I don't want though.

how much did you enjoy the process of buying champions with RP?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
March 29 2014 00:10 GMT
#2156
On March 29 2014 09:03 chalice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 08:56 Gahlo wrote:
On March 29 2014 08:33 chalice wrote:
On March 29 2014 06:35 Gahlo wrote:
On March 29 2014 05:55 Doctorbeat wrote:
25 champions left to buy....

And I've been playing this game since early 2011, you'd think I'd be able to keep up.

Same. Only reason I have so many is because I sunk the 13k RP from the AmEx card into all the 6300s I didn't have at the time when they went on sale.

if you didn't degen all your amex rp on mystery skins for yourself you can consider it a complete waste imo.

I don't care about skins I don't want though.

how much did you enjoy the process of buying champions with RP?

The 13k RP(worth $100) I didn't pay for? It felt pretty cool.
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
March 29 2014 00:18 GMT
#2157
For those wondering about the city states win rates:
http://gyazo.com/00d1f6c13cb816181afb7d7960c3ecb7

I had to add some "states" to find a home for all champs, but it should be pretty much correct.
States:
Bandle city: Heimerdinger, Ziggs, Teemo, Corki, Rumble, Lulu, Tristana, Poppy, Veigar
Bilgewater: MissFortune, Fizz, Nautilus, Graves, Gangplank
DEMACIA: Fiora, Sona, XinZhao, Lucian, JarvanIV, Lux, Quinn, Galio, Garen, Shyvana, Vayne
Freljord: Tryndamere, Volibear, Ashe, Udyr, Trundle, Sejuani, Anivia, Gragas, Lissandra, Nunu, Olaf
Ionia: Soraka, MasterYi, Akali, Varus, Irelia, Kennen, Syndra, Karma, LeeSin, Ahri, Yasuo, Shen, Zed
Jungle (lorewise connected to souther jungles): MonkeyKing, Zyra, Rammus, Nidalee
Mt Targon: Leona, Pantheon, Diana
Noxus: Draven, Talon, Cassiopeia, Katarina, Morgana, Swain, Sion, Darius, Riven, Vladimir, Leblanc, Urgot
Other (affiliated with place, but alone): Skarner, Zilean
Piltover: Jinx, Janna, Vi, Caitlyn, Orianna, Jayce, Ezreal
Shadow Isle: Karthus, Evelynn, Yorick, Hecarim, Mordekaiser, Thresh, Maokai, Nocturne, Elise
Shurima: Sivir, Nasus, Xerath, Renekton
Unknown: Amumu, FiddleSticks, Brand, Kayle, Shaco, Taric, Jax, Nami, Ryze, Aatrox, Malphite, Annie, TwistedFate, Rengar, Alistar
Void: Malzahar, KogMaw, Khazix, Velkoz, Chogath, Kassadin
Zaun: Warwick, Singed, Blitzcrank, Twitch, Viktor, Zac, DrMundo

Someone else should do a double check on the calculations and designate city stats/affiliations though as Im really tired.
washed
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
March 29 2014 00:27 GMT
#2158
I think you skipped Piltover
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
InfSunday
Profile Joined March 2013
United States735 Posts
March 29 2014 00:36 GMT
#2159
Yeah Piltover isn't on there.

Weird that Shadow Isles is the last for both sides, you'd think Thresh/Elise/Eve's high win rates would make up for the rest of them. Guess not.
Call me Sunday
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
March 29 2014 00:44 GMT
#2160
Who is the feeder of Demacia?
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