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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
January 17 2014 18:38 GMT
#641
On January 18 2014 03:34 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 03:07 739 wrote:
Can't play rankeds on EUW, wtf is this.

Business as usual?
Totally a ploy to get Europeans to watch NA LCS.

lol might be. 10 placement matches? It will take me whole week to get them played, since I'm playing like 1-2 games daily :\
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chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
January 17 2014 18:38 GMT
#642
On January 18 2014 02:29 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 01:08 chalice wrote:
On January 18 2014 00:58 Alaric wrote:
On January 18 2014 00:52 chalice wrote:
On January 18 2014 00:45 Sufficiency wrote:
Personally I'd just wait for 2 weeks to a month. It seems that everyone's MMR got greatly reduced so even the top challenger players now have only plat MMR. There is no point in playing because youe MMR gain will be minimal.

even if you didn't enjoy the game at all and your only concern was maximizing MMR gain, i don't see how not playing for a month would be anything but counterproductive.

Doesn't stop him from playing, he only said he wouldn't play ranked.

so if you have two guys of equal skill level both starting at 1200 mmr with a goal of reaching 2000 mmr, in what possible scenario do you see the guy with a month head start not reaching the goal first? all your getting from not playing at the beginning of the season is a decrease in variance which will be easily counteracted by the increased number of games played.

That's the point though. He's not interested in average MMR gain per time, but average MMR gain per game.

Ranked isn't a time investment when you're not playing it.

to me, having a strong enough desire to increase your MMR that you schedule your gaming around it seems incongruous with an apparent desire play ranked as little as possible. unless you actually don't want to play ranked, i would assume that most people have their gaming time limited by the time available in each day and not playing for a month isn't going to magically allow them to play more games in the following month.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
January 17 2014 18:40 GMT
#643
Lowest I have ever been is ~1100, right after S2 reset. Highest is roughly 23-2400ish, right at the end of this season.
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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
January 17 2014 18:41 GMT
#644
On January 18 2014 01:08 chalice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 00:58 Alaric wrote:
On January 18 2014 00:52 chalice wrote:
On January 18 2014 00:45 Sufficiency wrote:
Personally I'd just wait for 2 weeks to a month. It seems that everyone's MMR got greatly reduced so even the top challenger players now have only plat MMR. There is no point in playing because youe MMR gain will be minimal.

even if you didn't enjoy the game at all and your only concern was maximizing MMR gain, i don't see how not playing for a month would be anything but counterproductive.

Doesn't stop him from playing, he only said he wouldn't play ranked.

so if you have two guys of equal skill level both starting at 1200 mmr with a goal of reaching 2000 mmr, in what possible scenario do you see the guy with a month head start not reaching the goal first? all your getting from not playing at the beginning of the season is a decrease in variance which will be easily counteracted by the increased number of games played.

You're maximizing the gains from your placement matches. If you start now and play a few games there is the chance that after wins you start running into diamond 1/challengers. You then lose those games and settle at an elo that is lower than it would be otherwise.

It's true that the month won't make much of a difference if you play a lot of games all year. But if you want to play only a few it will make getting to where you should be a bit faster.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
January 17 2014 18:41 GMT
#645
BTW is Akali being ever played nowadays in high mmr games? Or she just got nerfed hard and she's getting zoned by everyone mid/top lane ?
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
January 17 2014 18:43 GMT
#646
On January 18 2014 03:38 chalice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 02:29 TheYango wrote:
On January 18 2014 01:08 chalice wrote:
On January 18 2014 00:58 Alaric wrote:
On January 18 2014 00:52 chalice wrote:
On January 18 2014 00:45 Sufficiency wrote:
Personally I'd just wait for 2 weeks to a month. It seems that everyone's MMR got greatly reduced so even the top challenger players now have only plat MMR. There is no point in playing because youe MMR gain will be minimal.

even if you didn't enjoy the game at all and your only concern was maximizing MMR gain, i don't see how not playing for a month would be anything but counterproductive.

Doesn't stop him from playing, he only said he wouldn't play ranked.

so if you have two guys of equal skill level both starting at 1200 mmr with a goal of reaching 2000 mmr, in what possible scenario do you see the guy with a month head start not reaching the goal first? all your getting from not playing at the beginning of the season is a decrease in variance which will be easily counteracted by the increased number of games played.

That's the point though. He's not interested in average MMR gain per time, but average MMR gain per game.

Ranked isn't a time investment when you're not playing it.

to me, having a strong enough desire to increase your MMR that you schedule your gaming around it seems incongruous with an apparent desire play ranked as little as possible. unless you actually don't want to play ranked, i would assume that most people have their gaming time limited by the time available in each day and not playing for a month isn't going to magically allow them to play more games in the following month.


Personally, I did S3 placement the day it was available, and remember those 10 games being some pretty awful games and not very fun.

So this time around I'm going to wait a week.

It's not necessarily about minmaxing your MMR gains, there's also the whole scenario of I just don't want to deal with that crap.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 17 2014 18:43 GMT
#647
On January 18 2014 03:38 chalice wrote:
to me, having a strong enough desire to increase your MMR that you schedule your gaming around it seems incongruous with an apparent desire play ranked as little as possible.

It's actually totally in line with the attitude of someone who hates playing ranked but wants to have as high of MMR as possible for the purpose of internet dick-waving contests. Which probably describes the majority of people who play ranked.
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 17 2014 18:45 GMT
#648
On January 18 2014 03:41 739 wrote:
BTW is Akali being ever played nowadays in high mmr games? Or she just got nerfed hard and she's getting zoned by everyone mid/top lane ?

She is decent.Played vs some guy called best akali euw today he played rather well and she was really strong.
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-17 18:54:49
January 17 2014 18:53 GMT
#649
On January 18 2014 03:41 739 wrote:
BTW is Akali being ever played nowadays in high mmr games? Or she just got nerfed hard and she's getting zoned by everyone mid/top lane ?


If you don't get wrecked in terms of XP (or lose by 40+ cs or some other horrible amount) you can usually take a dump on anyone at lvl 6 with your jungler (2v1 duh, but a really good amount of 2v2s as well imo). Definitely playable but not "hidden OP" or anything.
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
January 17 2014 18:54 GMT
#650
IMO the reason why Akali doesn't see more play is because Kassadin is very similar but better.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
January 17 2014 18:55 GMT
#651
akali and other assassins will always be playable in soloq because their playstyle revolves around punishing positioning errors. akali's laning is quite poor in most metas, but capitalizing on midgame rotations is usually enough to keep her relevant in a given game. basically, she's ok to play if you're already good with her, but don't pick her up if you want a new conductor for your elo train
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
January 17 2014 18:57 GMT
#652
On January 18 2014 03:43 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 03:38 chalice wrote:
to me, having a strong enough desire to increase your MMR that you schedule your gaming around it seems incongruous with an apparent desire play ranked as little as possible.

It's actually totally in line with the attitude of someone who hates playing ranked but wants to have as high of MMR as possible for the purpose of internet dick-waving contests. Which probably describes the majority of people who play ranked.

yeah i guess when you consider how large the market for elo boosting services is, there really are a ton of people who care more about what their ranking is than how good they are at actually playing the game.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
January 17 2014 19:27 GMT
#653
On January 18 2014 03:43 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 03:38 chalice wrote:
to me, having a strong enough desire to increase your MMR that you schedule your gaming around it seems incongruous with an apparent desire play ranked as little as possible.

It's actually totally in line with the attitude of someone who hates playing ranked but wants to have as high of MMR as possible for the purpose of internet dick-waving contests. Which probably describes the majority of people who play ranked.


Or someone who only a game or so a week and wants to be in the rewards without having to grind for it.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 17 2014 19:33 GMT
#654
On January 18 2014 04:27 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 03:43 TheYango wrote:
On January 18 2014 03:38 chalice wrote:
to me, having a strong enough desire to increase your MMR that you schedule your gaming around it seems incongruous with an apparent desire play ranked as little as possible.

It's actually totally in line with the attitude of someone who hates playing ranked but wants to have as high of MMR as possible for the purpose of internet dick-waving contests. Which probably describes the majority of people who play ranked.


Or someone who only a game or so a week and wants to be in the rewards without having to grind for it.


If someone is serious about rewards, they should be serious about earning it.

but that's just me
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 17 2014 19:36 GMT
#655
On January 18 2014 04:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 04:27 Goumindong wrote:
On January 18 2014 03:43 TheYango wrote:
On January 18 2014 03:38 chalice wrote:
to me, having a strong enough desire to increase your MMR that you schedule your gaming around it seems incongruous with an apparent desire play ranked as little as possible.

It's actually totally in line with the attitude of someone who hates playing ranked but wants to have as high of MMR as possible for the purpose of internet dick-waving contests. Which probably describes the majority of people who play ranked.


Or someone who only a game or so a week and wants to be in the rewards without having to grind for it.


If someone is serious about rewards, they should be serious about earning it.

but that's just me

Didnt you sneak into d5 like a week or 2 before rewards kicked in? Lol
liftlift > tsm
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
January 17 2014 19:39 GMT
#656
On January 18 2014 04:36 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 04:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On January 18 2014 04:27 Goumindong wrote:
On January 18 2014 03:43 TheYango wrote:
On January 18 2014 03:38 chalice wrote:
to me, having a strong enough desire to increase your MMR that you schedule your gaming around it seems incongruous with an apparent desire play ranked as little as possible.

It's actually totally in line with the attitude of someone who hates playing ranked but wants to have as high of MMR as possible for the purpose of internet dick-waving contests. Which probably describes the majority of people who play ranked.


Or someone who only a game or so a week and wants to be in the rewards without having to grind for it.


If someone is serious about rewards, they should be serious about earning it.

but that's just me

Didnt you sneak into d5 like a week or 2 before rewards kicked in? Lol


And he worked like a motherfucker to do so.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
January 17 2014 19:41 GMT
#657
I'm probably gonna hold off on doing my placements until I can duo with someone, and after the initial rush of players looking to get back into ranked occur. All these reports and posts about trolls and DCs is pretty discouraging.
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
January 17 2014 19:43 GMT
#658
On January 18 2014 04:41 Kinie wrote:
I'm probably gonna hold off on doing my placements until I can duo with someone, and after the initial rush of players looking to get back into ranked occur. All these reports and posts about trolls and DCs is pretty discouraging.


To be honest, my 9 placement games (yeah 9, not 10, because EUW didn't want me to get my ranking apparently) were full of cool people, less rage than usual and pretty good play overall, which led me to add guys to my duoQ list, which is big for a day
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
January 17 2014 19:43 GMT
#659
On January 18 2014 04:39 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 04:36 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 18 2014 04:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On January 18 2014 04:27 Goumindong wrote:
On January 18 2014 03:43 TheYango wrote:
On January 18 2014 03:38 chalice wrote:
to me, having a strong enough desire to increase your MMR that you schedule your gaming around it seems incongruous with an apparent desire play ranked as little as possible.

It's actually totally in line with the attitude of someone who hates playing ranked but wants to have as high of MMR as possible for the purpose of internet dick-waving contests. Which probably describes the majority of people who play ranked.


Or someone who only a game or so a week and wants to be in the rewards without having to grind for it.


If someone is serious about rewards, they should be serious about earning it.

but that's just me

Didnt you sneak into d5 like a week or 2 before rewards kicked in? Lol


And he worked like a motherfucker to do so.


Dude were you watching that stream?

That was the most bullshit promotion series EVER.

Soniv deserved challenger for that shit.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
komokun
Profile Joined July 2011
France343 Posts
January 17 2014 19:44 GMT
#660
Happy new season!
This shit is hilarious, was plat1 last season. I win first two games against people of my elo bracket (plat1- d3).
Third game champion select... I get matched with Nip Hyrqbot and skt t1 haydal premade (who's that?), another d1 and a d5 kennen. Funniest thing is we lost with that kennen flaming and crying for gank constantly before minute 5. The guy dies 1vs1 to nasus before our jungle finishes his red xD. Ofc he kept feeding/raging really hard after that. Gg even challenger can't carry toxicity.

Overall people are much more nervous and I haven't seen this much flame since the good ole bronze days. Ended up in plat 2, I guess I was kinda lucky. Not that it matters, as others said you eventually end up where you deserve within 50 games anyway.
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