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United States37500 Posts
On February 07 2014 05:22 LaNague wrote:
those rankings are completely useless.
how do you even want to rank SKT S or Cj Frost compared to EU and NA.
they didnt get out of ogn groupstages, so now they are worse than half the LCS teams?
You really think a mid level KR team like SKT S would win against Fnatic? Frost shouldn't even be mentioned right now because they scrapped half their roster and picked up Lira and Coco. I don't have much qualms about where Fnatic was placed.
Five teams on the power rankings between both NA and EU LCS. I do think those five are better than SKT T1 S or CJ Frost atm. That's hardly half of LCS. (5/18)
On February 07 2014 05:53 Shelke14 wrote:
How does roccat (5-3) power rank higher than c9 and TSM (7-1). My Jimmy's are rustled and that's basically shitting on NA league teams.
I definitely don't agree with how highly ROCCAT placed this week. Outside of Fnatic/Gambit, I had TSM > C9 > ROCCAT with other international teams placed in between them.
On February 07 2014 07:16 scrubtastic wrote:
How the heck is Fnatic above all but 4 korean teams and all of the Chinese teams?
How is OMG the top Chinese team
How did SKT S get shit on so badly
If someone wrote this thing just to troll people and get views I guess it's working
+ Show Spoiler [I am bad, Fnatic spoilers from today] +Barring today's implosion due to that LeBlanc pick...
CN is probably the region with the least viewership and coverage. I also picked OMG as the top CN team. Ofc CN (and KR) are on hiatus right now so the rankings with them are just filler until later this month. That said, what are your top 3 CN teams, in order, and why? I actually talked to Yango because he's more of an expert of the CN scene than I am and I agreed with my OMG placement.
SKT S got knocked out early from both OGN and NLB. I think they'll do better in spring but based on winter performance, they belong where they were placed.
TL;DR: power rankings can be silly but I get what Riot is trying to get at with them. At the end of the day, it's meant to fuel discussion and get people talking about LoL and the pro scene; despite the lack of international competition. I get that.
If you feel there was a travesty committed with the power rankings, feel free to talk to me about them. I can shed insight on what the other panelists and I were thinking. If you make a good case and convince me, I'll be sure to have it reflected in the next week's edition (per my votes obv. I can't promise it will change the overall rankings). ty
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Baa?21242 Posts
? Yango agreed with OMG over iG...?
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
skts nearly won 3 games vs blaze and that's pretty good. they were stronger than blaze mechanically but got outplayed lategame.
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United States37500 Posts
On February 07 2014 12:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
? Yango agreed with OMG over iG...?
Talking to him atm he did mention he said iG over OMG but OMG "is fine if you dont like iG"
I misheard some where along the way.
Edit: I also want to mention that a lot of Rioters really love PE, putting them as the best CN team. I have a feeling we're all pretty clueless. I'll be watching LPL more closely when the next season starts.
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On February 07 2014 12:09 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:22 LaNague wrote:
those rankings are completely useless.
how do you even want to rank SKT S or Cj Frost compared to EU and NA.
they didnt get out of ogn groupstages, so now they are worse than half the LCS teams? You really think a mid level KR team like SKT S would win against Fnatic? Frost shouldn't even be mentioned right now because they scrapped half their roster and picked up Lira and Coco. I don't have much qualms about where Fnatic was placed. Five teams on the power rankings between both NA and EU LCS. I do think those five are better than SKT T1 S or CJ Frost atm. That's hardly half of LCS. (5/18) Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:53 Shelke14 wrote:
How does roccat (5-3) power rank higher than c9 and TSM (7-1). My Jimmy's are rustled and that's basically shitting on NA league teams. I definitely don't agree with how highly ROCCAT placed this week. Outside of Fnatic/Gambit, I had TSM > C9 > ROCCAT with other international teams placed in between them. Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:16 scrubtastic wrote:
How the heck is Fnatic above all but 4 korean teams and all of the Chinese teams?
How is OMG the top Chinese team
How did SKT S get shit on so badly
If someone wrote this thing just to troll people and get views I guess it's working + Show Spoiler +Barring today's implosion due to that LeBlanc pick... Fnatic has been performing quite well. Not only in regards to their record but each of their players have been consistent. Despite what critics have said beforehand, Fnatic with Rekkles is a serious improvement over Fnatic with Puszu last split. CN is probably the region with the least viewership and coverage. I also picked OMG as the top CN team. Ofc CN (and KR) are on hiatus right now so the rankings with them are just filler until later this month. That said, what are your top 3 CN teams, in order, and why? I actually talked to Yango because he's more of an expert of the CN scene than I am and I agreed with my OMG placement. SKT S got knocked out early from both OGN and NLB. I think they'll do better in spring but based on winter performance, they belong where they were placed.
Woah woah spoilers there Neo with this weeks LCS please. I work when they are live.
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United States37500 Posts
On February 07 2014 12:15 oneofthem wrote:
skts nearly won 3 games vs blaze and that's pretty good. they were stronger than blaze mechanically but got outplayed lategame.
Then they got 2-0'd by KT Rolster Arrows. ???
Edit: @Gahlo, we had KT A are #9 out of the KR teams only. So not that far off.
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On February 07 2014 12:15 oneofthem wrote:
skts nearly won 3 games vs blaze and that's pretty good. they were stronger than blaze mechanically but got outplayed lategame.
SKTS also got rolster'd by KTA.
Side note: On Monte's thingamajig today, he said he thinks KTA is one of the top 8 teams in Korea currently.
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United States37500 Posts
On February 07 2014 12:22 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 12:09 NeoIllusions wrote:On February 07 2014 05:22 LaNague wrote:
those rankings are completely useless.
how do you even want to rank SKT S or Cj Frost compared to EU and NA.
they didnt get out of ogn groupstages, so now they are worse than half the LCS teams? You really think a mid level KR team like SKT S would win against Fnatic? Frost shouldn't even be mentioned right now because they scrapped half their roster and picked up Lira and Coco. I don't have much qualms about where Fnatic was placed. Five teams on the power rankings between both NA and EU LCS. I do think those five are better than SKT T1 S or CJ Frost atm. That's hardly half of LCS. (5/18) On February 07 2014 05:53 Shelke14 wrote:
How does roccat (5-3) power rank higher than c9 and TSM (7-1). My Jimmy's are rustled and that's basically shitting on NA league teams. I definitely don't agree with how highly ROCCAT placed this week. Outside of Fnatic/Gambit, I had TSM > C9 > ROCCAT with other international teams placed in between them. On February 07 2014 07:16 scrubtastic wrote:
How the heck is Fnatic above all but 4 korean teams and all of the Chinese teams?
How is OMG the top Chinese team
How did SKT S get shit on so badly
If someone wrote this thing just to troll people and get views I guess it's working + Show Spoiler +Barring today's implosion due to that LeBlanc pick... Fnatic has been performing quite well. Not only in regards to their record but each of their players have been consistent. Despite what critics have said beforehand, Fnatic with Rekkles is a serious improvement over Fnatic with Puszu last split. CN is probably the region with the least viewership and coverage. I also picked OMG as the top CN team. Ofc CN (and KR) are on hiatus right now so the rankings with them are just filler until later this month. That said, what are your top 3 CN teams, in order, and why? I actually talked to Yango because he's more of an expert of the CN scene than I am and I agreed with my OMG placement. SKT S got knocked out early from both OGN and NLB. I think they'll do better in spring but based on winter performance, they belong where they were placed. Woah woah spoilers there Neo with this weeks LCS please. I work when they are live.
I thought I was being vague enough but you're right. I insinuated too much and it's my mistake.
Sorry.
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On February 07 2014 12:24 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 12:22 cLutZ wrote:On February 07 2014 12:09 NeoIllusions wrote:On February 07 2014 05:22 LaNague wrote:
those rankings are completely useless.
how do you even want to rank SKT S or Cj Frost compared to EU and NA.
they didnt get out of ogn groupstages, so now they are worse than half the LCS teams? You really think a mid level KR team like SKT S would win against Fnatic? Frost shouldn't even be mentioned right now because they scrapped half their roster and picked up Lira and Coco. I don't have much qualms about where Fnatic was placed. Five teams on the power rankings between both NA and EU LCS. I do think those five are better than SKT T1 S or CJ Frost atm. That's hardly half of LCS. (5/18) On February 07 2014 05:53 Shelke14 wrote:
How does roccat (5-3) power rank higher than c9 and TSM (7-1). My Jimmy's are rustled and that's basically shitting on NA league teams. I definitely don't agree with how highly ROCCAT placed this week. Outside of Fnatic/Gambit, I had TSM > C9 > ROCCAT with other international teams placed in between them. On February 07 2014 07:16 scrubtastic wrote:
How the heck is Fnatic above all but 4 korean teams and all of the Chinese teams?
How is OMG the top Chinese team
How did SKT S get shit on so badly
If someone wrote this thing just to troll people and get views I guess it's working + Show Spoiler +Barring today's implosion due to that LeBlanc pick... Fnatic has been performing quite well. Not only in regards to their record but each of their players have been consistent. Despite what critics have said beforehand, Fnatic with Rekkles is a serious improvement over Fnatic with Puszu last split. CN is probably the region with the least viewership and coverage. I also picked OMG as the top CN team. Ofc CN (and KR) are on hiatus right now so the rankings with them are just filler until later this month. That said, what are your top 3 CN teams, in order, and why? I actually talked to Yango because he's more of an expert of the CN scene than I am and I agreed with my OMG placement. SKT S got knocked out early from both OGN and NLB. I think they'll do better in spring but based on winter performance, they belong where they were placed. Woah woah spoilers there Neo with this weeks LCS please. I work when they are live. I thought I was being vague enough but you're right. I insinuated too much and it's my mistake. Sorry.
Its fine :p, I just watch all Fnatic games because I find it fun to try to guess who will carry in each individual game.
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On February 07 2014 11:59 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 11:58 Sufficiency wrote:On February 07 2014 11:54 FinestHour wrote:
whats the replay number What do you mean...? whoosh. LoL = no replays. In DotA2, there are replay ids which you can use. His joke?burn?jab?dunno? is that LoL doesn't have replays. Speaking of FinestHour, why do you keep making random one liners? I remember you weren't this obnoxious before. Or were you always this obnoxious, and that I'm confusing myself with some other TL'er?
oh iono like half of the time im browsing on my phone in class during a lecture so thats why
and i dont think im obnoxious lol u might have me confused with someone else, unless u count when i always like to joke about some champ being op safe fotm waveclear etc etc thats just all in good fun
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United States37500 Posts
On February 07 2014 12:31 FinestHour wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 11:59 ketchup wrote:On February 07 2014 11:58 Sufficiency wrote:On February 07 2014 11:54 FinestHour wrote:
whats the replay number What do you mean...? whoosh. LoL = no replays. In DotA2, there are replay ids which you can use. His joke?burn?jab?dunno? is that LoL doesn't have replays. Speaking of FinestHour, why do you keep making random one liners? I remember you weren't this obnoxious before. Or were you always this obnoxious, and that I'm confusing myself with some other TL'er? oh iono like half of the time im browsing on my phone in class during a lecture so thats why and i dont think im obnoxious lol u might have me confused with someone else, unless u count when i always like to joke about some champ being op safe fotm waveclear etc etc thats just all in good fun
I don't recall who but someone mentioned to me that you're a flamer over at the TL Dota2 subforum. But fwiw, you're doing fine over here. I have noted your use of sarcasm but it's rarely offensive.
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On February 07 2014 12:31 FinestHour wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 11:59 ketchup wrote:On February 07 2014 11:58 Sufficiency wrote:On February 07 2014 11:54 FinestHour wrote:
whats the replay number What do you mean...? whoosh. LoL = no replays. In DotA2, there are replay ids which you can use. His joke?burn?jab?dunno? is that LoL doesn't have replays. Speaking of FinestHour, why do you keep making random one liners? I remember you weren't this obnoxious before. Or were you always this obnoxious, and that I'm confusing myself with some other TL'er? oh iono like half of the time im browsing on my phone in class during a lecture so thats why and i dont think im obnoxious lol u might have me confused with someone else, unless u count when i always like to joke about some champ being op safe fotm waveclear etc etc thats just all in good fun
Ah good ol' class TL browsing. Brings out the best in all of us. I might be confusing you with other people. I don't know. Difficult to keep track of people when you lurk like I do. Which is usually skim for funny posts, laugh, and then move on. I guess that might be why your name seemed familiar.
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didnt realize yasuo has 90% +ban rate, somehow I thought he is manageable till i played vs somebody who actually knew what he was doing, god this champ is retarded
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On February 07 2014 12:22 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 12:15 oneofthem wrote:
skts nearly won 3 games vs blaze and that's pretty good. they were stronger than blaze mechanically but got outplayed lategame. Then they got 2-0'd by KT Rolster Arrows. ??? Edit: @Gahlo, we had KT A are #9 out of the KR teams only. So not that far off.
kt arrows are really strong, plus teams get better with time. back during ogn qualifiers kt a were pretty underprepared with a new roster. if they are running ssumday/kakao/most3/riris/hachani that roster is pretty sick
i saw monte cast the skts kta games (ok had it playing in the background) and it seemed like b/p losses
but yea the na teams are ranked lower than they should be. i think tsm is better than all euro teams right now
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On February 07 2014 13:01 kongoline wrote:
didnt realize yasuo has 90% +ban rate, somehow I thought he is manageable till i played vs somebody who actually knew what he was doing, god this champ is retarded
He's fun to watch play. Maybe needs to add a bit more risk in his early game, but he definitely has his poor matchups though.
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Played my 2 lunar revel Dominion games for the silly icon... I should play dominion more often.
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i think that dominion is the most fun of the available game modes tbh
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Pitcairn19291 Posts
Neo's a god. Please stop hating. He regularly watches most of the five major leagues. Do you guys do that?
If not, your opinions are invalid.
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On February 07 2014 13:01 kongoline wrote:
didnt realize yasuo has 90% +ban rate, somehow I thought he is manageable till i played vs somebody who actually knew what he was doing, god this champ is retarded
Bjergsen was talking about Yasuo on stream the other day. He said he obviously can be very strong but has a lot of very bad matchups so can only really be used as a counterpick in competitive. Also he said he is quite vulnerable to ganks early too so opponents can just focus him early to keep him from his really strong 1 and 2 item timings for as long as possible.
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On February 07 2014 12:22 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 12:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
? Yango agreed with OMG over iG...? Talking to him atm he did mention he said iG over OMG but OMG "is fine if you dont like iG" I misheard some where along the way. Edit: I also want to mention that a lot of Rioters really love PE, putting them as the best CN team. I have a feeling we're all pretty clueless. I'll be watching LPL more closely when the next season starts.
PE is highly overrated, and I have no idea why people think they're the strongest team. Namei is OK as an ADC but he looks really good relative to the rest of his team, I don't think he's the top ADC in China.
Personally I'm really confused on how that reputation even got spread in the west since PE legit has zero international appearances and their LPL performance isn't anything special, but now everyone pulls out the "Namei is the best ADC in China and you've never even heard of him!" card to pad their hipster cred.
PE is an OK team but compared to OMG, WE, ad iG...I don't really see it. And of course there's the whole no international appearance thing.
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