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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 13 2013 19:25 GMT
#3141
On November 14 2013 04:19 Louuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 04:01 obesechicken13 wrote:
On November 14 2013 03:53 zodde wrote:
On November 14 2013 03:26 obesechicken13 wrote:
Actually you guys are probably right. It is faster to gain rank if you only play one champion 1 role.

But I feel like this is like the dark side of the force. You improve more quickly over the short term to get a better rank, but it doesn't help you in the long term.

Phantomlord played only Draven. I don't think he'll ever be able to learn how to do anything but ADC. If he tries jungle he'll have to learn all the basics of jungling that most people learned at level 20.


Destiny, not phantomlord

Dang. I knew I should have checked.

On November 14 2013 03:58 Shiznick wrote:
On November 14 2013 03:26 obesechicken13 wrote:
Actually you guys are probably right. It is faster to gain rank if you only play one champion 1 role.

But I feel like this is like the dark side of the force. You improve more quickly over the short term to get a better rank, but it doesn't help you in the long term.

Phantomlord played only Draven. I don't think he'll ever be able to learn how to do anything but ADC. If he tries jungle he'll have to learn all the basics of jungling that most people learned at level 20.

I'm pretty sure a diamond 1 adc only player would still be better at jungling than someone who plays every role and is platinum. It's not as if you don't learn things about the other roles just because you play one role specifically.

I don't think he's ever jungled. And he can't play Ez or Cait or Varus or Trist. I imagine I wouldn't want to jungle much if I got to Diamond, started jungling, and went 1-7 every game and lost every game as a jungler.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/37544949#ranked-stats


TBH phantomlord is the same but with Karthus instead

I thought he was considered a decent ziggs/syndra.
Glorious SEA doto
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 13 2013 19:27 GMT
#3142
also while watching meteos vods I noticed he never turtles before bear to gank or turtle before phoenix to clear jungle even with blue, I was taught to do so by this EU TL guy who mains udyr who we all know, are NA udyrs ignorant or did the remake change something?
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
November 13 2013 19:28 GMT
#3143
Phantomlords ziggs is fucking baller, he's really good at utilizing his W. His syndra is pretty good too.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 13 2013 19:29 GMT
#3144
His Ziggs is honestly better than his Karthus at this point, Don't get me wrong his q/wall placement is pretty crisp but he keeps trying to force Karthus to be a early game roam champion, like I get that that is why Karthus is weak atm, but pretending he's Gragas does not make him Gragas.
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 13 2013 19:31 GMT
#3145
On November 14 2013 04:29 Slusher wrote:
His Ziggs is honestly better than his Karthus at this point, Don't get me wrong his q/wall placement is pretty crisp but he keeps trying to force Karthus to be a early game roam champion, like I get that that is why Karthus is weak atm, but pretending he's Gragas does not make him Gragas.

No. But it makes it entertaing as fuck.
liftlift > tsm
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 19:33:51
November 13 2013 19:33 GMT
#3146
and also on the topic of playing different champs, there are still like a handful of champions I have never played and dont know the cds of except roughly "long" or "short." This is after probably 5k+ games.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 13 2013 19:34 GMT
#3147
ofc standard Karthus is as boring as it gets, unless you go cloak and dagger anyway.
Carrilord has arrived.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
November 13 2013 19:35 GMT
#3148
On November 14 2013 04:34 Slusher wrote:
ofc standard Karthus is as boring as it gets, unless you go cloak and dagger anyway.

Top a lot more boring than karthus.Other 4 players don't even care about you unless you destroy your opponent lol.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 19:36:45
November 13 2013 19:35 GMT
#3149
All I'm reading right now is that phant0mlord is ready for S4 mid meta. TSM.Phant0mlord let's go.
On November 14 2013 04:35 nafta wrote:
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On November 14 2013 04:34 Slusher wrote:
ofc standard Karthus is as boring as it gets, unless you go cloak and dagger anyway.

Top a lot more boring than karthus.Other 4 players don't even care about you unless you destroy your opponent lol.

It's why I play shen, TP liss/malphite so I can feel involved.

Also I roam loads because FUCK RENEKTON AND RIVEN WITH A RUSTY TIRE IRON.
Glorious SEA doto
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
November 13 2013 19:38 GMT
#3150
or pantheon top can jump mid often.
ive been picking panth into riven often lately its quite fun
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 13 2013 19:38 GMT
#3151
On November 14 2013 04:33 zulu_nation8 wrote:
and also on the topic of playing different champs, there are still like a handful of champions I have never played and dont know the cds of except roughly "long" or "short." This is after probably 5k+ games.


in the same boat

I happens most in ARAM for me. I have a good idea of most champ kits, but recently I got Rengar and Sej, neither of which I had ever played, and I had to spend a long time figuring out what the hell my moves did.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 13 2013 19:49 GMT
#3152
dam that first post about the sultan skin needs to eat an orange and cheer up i think sultan shit looks fucking hilarious
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
November 13 2013 19:51 GMT
#3153
there are like 30 champs i've never ever played lol
TranslatorBaa!
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
November 13 2013 19:52 GMT
#3154
On November 14 2013 04:33 zulu_nation8 wrote:
and also on the topic of playing different champs, there are still like a handful of champions I have never played and dont know the cds of except roughly "long" or "short." This is after probably 5k+ games.

It's normal. I've been playing dota since forever and there're still heroes that I would never touch. It's hard to bring myself to sit through 30min playing a hero that I don't find fun.

zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 13 2013 19:54 GMT
#3155
but playing every champion does help a lot if only to get a feel for their cds, you should at least play every champion in your role at least once.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
November 13 2013 19:54 GMT
#3156
Took a quick look. Out of all the champs in the game, only 13 I don't remember ever playing.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 13 2013 19:57 GMT
#3157
On November 14 2013 04:51 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
there are like 30 champs i've never ever played lol

How many of those are champs you hate on principle like Lee Sin or Fizz?
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
November 13 2013 19:58 GMT
#3158
That's what other game modes are for. Learning new champs if you really care about your record in ranked or w/e.
God Bless
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 13 2013 20:06 GMT
#3159
I practice my Diana when Scip invites me in normals.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 20:12:22
November 13 2013 20:11 GMT
#3160
On November 14 2013 04:57 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 04:51 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
there are like 30 champs i've never ever played lol

How many of those are champs you hate on principle like Lee Sin or Fizz?


only lee kha jayce nidalee

i've played fizz

rest just seem boring so i've never played

On November 14 2013 04:54 zulu_nation8 wrote:
but playing every champion does help a lot if only to get a feel for their cds, you should at least play every champion in your role at least once.


i guess? but you can look it up + laning and getting gayed by op shit over and over again teaches your their cds pretty well (hint: its always shorter than you think g.g_
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