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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 12 2013 14:38 GMT
#2381
On September 12 2013 22:19 justiceknight wrote:
TW league TPA game
http://www.solomid.net/livestream.php?s=2807

dinter not in TPA? Bebe is back to adc and new member in mid.

Apparently he's a sub again. I only know this because I happened to see it on Leaguepedia. I think people have kinda stopped caring about TPA.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 12 2013 15:00 GMT
#2382
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glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
September 12 2013 15:09 GMT
#2383
On September 13 2013 00:00 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 17:31 cLutZ wrote:
On September 12 2013 15:47 TheLink wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
There's a reason Jamaica doesn't have a world class bobsled team.

Korea's strength is the same as in any other sport. Existing infrastructure, talented coaches and a wider talent pool to draw from. Are the Europeans so good at soccer because all the other countries just don't really want to win the world cup? hell no.


To answer your World Cup question: Yes. Simply put, Americans do not prioritize soccer. Look at every player who is in the NBA/NFL/NHL/MLB and imagine if that man started playing soccer at 4. These are a bunch of great athletes that don't play on our soccer teams. But it goes beyond that, because there are other American athletes that didn't make those major sports leagues, but tried, and dedicated themselves to those sports, but had talents that would have made them elite soccer players. So basically, the Americans that play for our soccer team represent the best athletes that come from the <1% of the population that properly engages in soccer training and competition (and that is so low because even the stuff we do, we mostly do half-ass when it comes to teaching soccer to kids under 15, and by then its too late).

The same all applies to E-Sports. Koreans have an incredibly high % of getting young kids to experiment (in the right way) with competitive games, they have a good infrastructure for developing them, etc, because the culture cares. And on top of that, its EASIER to do in Korea. A Korean who fails at E-Sports is in a better position relative to his peers than an American who fails. Just look at the median incomes of KR University grads and NA University grads. Voyboy had to put off going to a really good school (I think Berkley or something about that good) to play LOL, and he is on the good side. Imagine some of the players from the old Meat Playground, or hell, even MRN's players. They had a 4 month job at a fairly good salary for a LOT of investment.

On top of that, just judging from the outside, it looks like once a guy like imp retires, he can probably get a lot of credit on his University application for playing for Samsung. And when he graduates, get a job, because he was sponsored in what that culture considers a useful/real pursuit, by Samsung.


It depends what field you are getting into. If it's a tech field with the popularity of LOL you will get some great attention and opportunities based on it.

I have a highschool buddy who made it to the CFL (canadian football league) He was a back up O-line man and made 30-50k a year for his 4 year career. In university he had to miss a season due to ineligibility due to grades. So my point is he got bad grades. And wsa a no name player in a no name league.

When he retired he instantly received a investment banking job playing a 120k salary. I with better grades and working for the time he was in the CFL would never get this opportunity. The same sort of thing will happen for these LOL pros when they head off to the "real" world depending on what they choose.

Also most are young. Very few people do particularly productive stuff for at least a couple years in the 18-25 range. It's more about gaining life experiance and figureing out what to do. Which most still don't know at that time. Spending a couple years trying for LOL professionalism isn't gonna set you back in any "real" way when speaking in the long term.


If Broodwar pros' lives after retirement are what the LoL pros will follow, it won't be that easy for everyone.

Many of the more accomplished players returned to the scene by coaching or casting. Others went straight into military service, or get a job completely unrelated. Some actually got a job, some are still struggling. Lomo became a police officer, and I forget who (was it Backho?) became a Christian minister. Those are the oddballs.

The only one that truly became successful in a field other than esports is probably Xellos, where he actually got a marketing position at CJ, which is pretty impressive as it is hard to get hired into a large corporation like them. Perhaps I missed someone else, but others aren't as lucky. Luxury being a wretched person he is got arrested. I know some other pro also got arrested for robbery.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 12 2013 15:12 GMT
#2384
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Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
September 12 2013 15:17 GMT
#2385
Does anyone else think lemonnation should move to Eu and join LD?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 15:24:24
September 12 2013 15:23 GMT
#2386
Urgh, this time window where Corki is just starting to get picked so there are people who know how strong he is, others who don't, and it's a lottery every game because if your team doesn't know (and it's soloQ so you can't tell them, they'll tell you off) and he's on the other team you better shut him down before they get the opportunity to suicide thrice in his midgame.

Think I'm going to switch my Vayne ban to him. Way too volatile till he trickles down enough and gets figured out.

On September 13 2013 00:17 Dgiese wrote:
Does anyone else think lemonnation should move to Eu and join LD?

Any particular reason for choosing LD?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 12 2013 15:26 GMT
#2387
On September 13 2013 00:23 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 00:17 Dgiese wrote:
Does anyone else think lemonnation should move to Eu and join LD?

Any particular reason for choosing LD?


Lemonnation > LemonDogs..
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 12 2013 15:26 GMT
#2388
... oh. I'm bad.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 12 2013 15:40 GMT
#2389
On September 13 2013 00:26 Alaric wrote:
... oh. I'm bad.

LOL, it took me a second before I got it. My brain: "wtf, that's so random. Why would...OH"
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
September 12 2013 15:49 GMT
#2390
On September 13 2013 00:23 Alaric wrote:
Urgh, this time window where Corki is just starting to get picked so there are people who know how strong he is, others who don't, and it's a lottery every game because if your team doesn't know (and it's soloQ so you can't tell them, they'll tell you off) and he's on the other team you better shut him down before they get the opportunity to suicide thrice in his midgame.

Think I'm going to switch my Vayne ban to him. Way too volatile till he trickles down enough and gets figured out.

Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 00:17 Dgiese wrote:
Does anyone else think lemonnation should move to Eu and join LD?

Any particular reason for choosing LD?


I actually think corki is stronger mid than he is botlane. He's bullies hard, has great waveclear, and scales really well off of levels, as well as being almost ungankable.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
September 12 2013 15:50 GMT
#2391
On September 13 2013 00:49 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 00:23 Alaric wrote:
Urgh, this time window where Corki is just starting to get picked so there are people who know how strong he is, others who don't, and it's a lottery every game because if your team doesn't know (and it's soloQ so you can't tell them, they'll tell you off) and he's on the other team you better shut him down before they get the opportunity to suicide thrice in his midgame.

Think I'm going to switch my Vayne ban to him. Way too volatile till he trickles down enough and gets figured out.

On September 13 2013 00:17 Dgiese wrote:
Does anyone else think lemonnation should move to Eu and join LD?

Any particular reason for choosing LD?


I actually think corki is stronger mid than he is botlane. He's bullies hard, has great waveclear, and scales really well off of levels, as well as being almost ungankable.


no kill potential and shitty roam

fun 1v1 vacuum tho
TranslatorBaa!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 12 2013 15:51 GMT
#2392
On September 13 2013 00:49 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 00:23 Alaric wrote:
Urgh, this time window where Corki is just starting to get picked so there are people who know how strong he is, others who don't, and it's a lottery every game because if your team doesn't know (and it's soloQ so you can't tell them, they'll tell you off) and he's on the other team you better shut him down before they get the opportunity to suicide thrice in his midgame.

Think I'm going to switch my Vayne ban to him. Way too volatile till he trickles down enough and gets figured out.

On September 13 2013 00:17 Dgiese wrote:
Does anyone else think lemonnation should move to Eu and join LD?

Any particular reason for choosing LD?


I actually think corki is stronger mid than he is botlane. He's bullies hard, has great waveclear, and scales really well off of levels, as well as being almost ungankable.


Yeah, I faced one the other day. It was annoying, but not unbeatable.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 15:52:54
September 12 2013 15:52 GMT
#2393
On September 12 2013 16:14 Couvre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 15:55 Seuss wrote:
On September 12 2013 15:46 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 12 2013 15:43 Seuss wrote:
If someone paid me to do it I'd play/discuss league 14-16 hours per day.

That's pretty easy to say when you don't


I've lead a WoW raiding guild while holding a full-time salaried position. I did that for roughly four years. I meant what I said, and I know what I'm talking about.

You were still just playing a game. Perspectives tend to change when you start getting paid to do something. Brains are weird like that.


On September 12 2013 16:16 TheYango wrote:
There's also a certain pressure that's on you when you can't necessarily quit when you get bored of the game because it's your livelihood.


On September 12 2013 16:18 Itsmedudeman wrote:
14-16 hours put into an unstable job where your performance dictates the rest of your career compiled with shit pay and no future ahead of you if it fails. Yeah, I'd like to see how you handle that.


My guild was playing the game, I was leading the guild. If you want pressure or a perspective shift that's it right there, and I'm not about to write the dissertation required to explain how radically different WoW is when you're the one in charge.

It's fair to point out my future wasn't riding on it, but that's true in this case as well. I've got my degree and 7 years of work experience to fall back on in the worst case. So if you'd like to see how I'd handle it, go kickstarter me a LoL-career.

On September 12 2013 16:50 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 15:43 Seuss wrote:
If someone paid me to do it I'd play/discuss league 14-16 hours per day.

But what of your real life friends Monte? What of your family and the outside world? :3


Friends...?

More seriously, my fiance is extremely supportive of my madness and was fully prepared to let me try and become a professional LoL player when I got laid off back in April. I decided instead that I wanted to get into game design. I enjoy playing games and attaining mastery of them, but not as much as I enjoy analyzing them, picking them apart, and building new and better things.

On September 12 2013 22:55 AwayFromLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 22:53 Ketara wrote:
So, to echo Monte and anybody else who had success with this.

Moved 20$ from my bank account to the Serve card through Paypal, got 11k RP for it.

?

Don't you have to set up a Direct Deposit on it or something?


Nope. Just deposit $20 via Paypal or Amazon Payments.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 12 2013 15:53 GMT
#2394
On September 13 2013 00:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 00:49 Amui wrote:
On September 13 2013 00:23 Alaric wrote:
Urgh, this time window where Corki is just starting to get picked so there are people who know how strong he is, others who don't, and it's a lottery every game because if your team doesn't know (and it's soloQ so you can't tell them, they'll tell you off) and he's on the other team you better shut him down before they get the opportunity to suicide thrice in his midgame.

Think I'm going to switch my Vayne ban to him. Way too volatile till he trickles down enough and gets figured out.

On September 13 2013 00:17 Dgiese wrote:
Does anyone else think lemonnation should move to Eu and join LD?

Any particular reason for choosing LD?


I actually think corki is stronger mid than he is botlane. He's bullies hard, has great waveclear, and scales really well off of levels, as well as being almost ungankable.


no kill potential and shitty roam

fun 1v1 vacuum tho

He doesn't necessarily need to roam though. You could just pick him into a non-roaming mid, and just have the constant 1v1.
liftlift > tsm
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
September 12 2013 15:54 GMT
#2395
On September 13 2013 00:53 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 00:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 13 2013 00:49 Amui wrote:
On September 13 2013 00:23 Alaric wrote:
Urgh, this time window where Corki is just starting to get picked so there are people who know how strong he is, others who don't, and it's a lottery every game because if your team doesn't know (and it's soloQ so you can't tell them, they'll tell you off) and he's on the other team you better shut him down before they get the opportunity to suicide thrice in his midgame.

Think I'm going to switch my Vayne ban to him. Way too volatile till he trickles down enough and gets figured out.

On September 13 2013 00:17 Dgiese wrote:
Does anyone else think lemonnation should move to Eu and join LD?

Any particular reason for choosing LD?


I actually think corki is stronger mid than he is botlane. He's bullies hard, has great waveclear, and scales really well off of levels, as well as being almost ungankable.


no kill potential and shitty roam

fun 1v1 vacuum tho

He doesn't necessarily need to roam though. You could just pick him into a non-roaming mid, and just have the constant 1v1.


ya but no one plays those anymore
TranslatorBaa!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 12 2013 15:58 GMT
#2396
But you don't need a champion with good roam when you have a Warwick support. It's a free kill once you Valkyrie over dragon pit to dodge wards.

PX was right the whole time
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
September 12 2013 16:05 GMT
#2397
Holy crap I'm so excited for the next LCS season.

Everyone is gonna hate on Quantic and I'm going to love it every time they win.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 12 2013 16:09 GMT
#2398
On September 13 2013 01:05 silencefc wrote:
Holy crap I'm so excited for the next LCS season.

Everyone is gonna hate on Quantic and I'm going to love it every time they win.

You'll be like Velocity fans except much, much happier
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 16:14:55
September 12 2013 16:13 GMT
#2399
On September 13 2013 01:09 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 01:05 silencefc wrote:
Holy crap I'm so excited for the next LCS season.

Everyone is gonna hate on Quantic and I'm going to love it every time they win.

You'll be like Velocity fans except much, much happier

Psh. Only velocity can create the chain of bans that was the week 6 lcs.
On September 13 2013 00:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 00:53 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 13 2013 00:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 13 2013 00:49 Amui wrote:
On September 13 2013 00:23 Alaric wrote:
Urgh, this time window where Corki is just starting to get picked so there are people who know how strong he is, others who don't, and it's a lottery every game because if your team doesn't know (and it's soloQ so you can't tell them, they'll tell you off) and he's on the other team you better shut him down before they get the opportunity to suicide thrice in his midgame.

Think I'm going to switch my Vayne ban to him. Way too volatile till he trickles down enough and gets figured out.

On September 13 2013 00:17 Dgiese wrote:
Does anyone else think lemonnation should move to Eu and join LD?

Any particular reason for choosing LD?


I actually think corki is stronger mid than he is botlane. He's bullies hard, has great waveclear, and scales really well off of levels, as well as being almost ungankable.


no kill potential and shitty roam

fun 1v1 vacuum tho

He doesn't necessarily need to roam though. You could just pick him into a non-roaming mid, and just have the constant 1v1.


ya but no one plays those anymore

Orianna and karthus still come to mind as popular farming mids
liftlift > tsm
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 16:30:12
September 12 2013 16:13 GMT
#2400
On September 13 2013 00:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 00:53 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 13 2013 00:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 13 2013 00:49 Amui wrote:
On September 13 2013 00:23 Alaric wrote:
Urgh, this time window where Corki is just starting to get picked so there are people who know how strong he is, others who don't, and it's a lottery every game because if your team doesn't know (and it's soloQ so you can't tell them, they'll tell you off) and he's on the other team you better shut him down before they get the opportunity to suicide thrice in his midgame.

Think I'm going to switch my Vayne ban to him. Way too volatile till he trickles down enough and gets figured out.

On September 13 2013 00:17 Dgiese wrote:
Does anyone else think lemonnation should move to Eu and join LD?

Any particular reason for choosing LD?


I actually think corki is stronger mid than he is botlane. He's bullies hard, has great waveclear, and scales really well off of levels, as well as being almost ungankable.


no kill potential and shitty roam

fun 1v1 vacuum tho

He doesn't necessarily need to roam though. You could just pick him into a non-roaming mid, and just have the constant 1v1.


ya but no one plays those anymore

RIP Mordekaiser
Though Corki mid would be better at killing towers + taking enemy jungle than Morde

On September 13 2013 01:13 wei2coolman wrote:
Orianna and karthus still come to mind as popular farming mids

Yah but they have kill potential, and Ori has somewhat of a roam while Karthus doesn't really need to. Corki isn't going to wombo combo anyone in lane, unless they were just poor at dodging rockets and too dumb to go heal. He'd still push them out and kill towers like a mofo, though, and doesn't make your team as AD-heavy as others would if your team was running 2x adc. I'd prefer a corki mid over AD Ez
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