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.AK
Profile Joined September 2010
United States561 Posts
August 01 2013 04:45 GMT
#761
On August 01 2013 13:44 SagaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 13:41 .AK wrote:
Holy shit this thread does not like Xizor. He was asked a question to which he gave a response (albeit an unusual one) and suddenly there is two pages of the most passive agresive posting I have seen in a while. If you don't like what he says don't respond or absolutely crush him with supporting facts (replays would be nice). We seem to acknowledge that Xizor doesn't give a shit about words and you guys refuse to stop arguing with him. Jeez he didn't even interrupt an on going discussion.

I don't think anyone's irritated or anything, we just bored and he brings dumb stuff to talk about

Xes sounded pretty thoroughly annoyed.
All hail the glorious I sell T.Vs at Best Buy || #1 REQUIZEN FANBOI || IGN: .AK/BEST ANTIMAGE NA || Plat IV ADC Main
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 01 2013 04:46 GMT
#762
On August 01 2013 13:41 .AK wrote:
Holy shit this thread does not like Xizor. He was asked a question to which he gave a response (albeit an unusual one) and suddenly there is two pages of the most passive agresive posting I have seen in a while. If you don't like what he says don't respond or absolutely crush him with supporting facts (replays would be nice). We seem to acknowledge that Xizor doesn't give a shit about words and you guys refuse to stop arguing with him. Jeez he didn't even interrupt an on going discussion.

He's rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. We're a small community, people are slow to forget. It's not necessarily right but it's just kind of the way it is.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 04:48:44
August 01 2013 04:46 GMT
#763
On August 01 2013 13:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 13:41 .AK wrote:
Holy shit this thread does not like Xizor. He was asked a question to which he gave a response (albeit an unusual one) and suddenly there is two pages of the most passive agresive posting I have seen in a while. If you don't like what he says don't respond or absolutely crush him with supporting facts (replays would be nice). We seem to acknowledge that Xizor doesn't give a shit about words and you guys refuse to stop arguing with him. Jeez he didn't even interrupt an on going discussion.

Xizor smurf? Or just xizor apologist/groupie?


On August 01 2013 12:09 .AK wrote:
Regardless of the validity of any particular argument, as a friend of Prince I can vouch for him not being a "troll". He may absolutely suck at internet arguing, capitalize worth shit, and be incoherent to the point of embarrassment but whatever he is arguing for he actually believes, meaning he doesn't just start shit for the sake of starting shit which is my definition of a "troll".


Since I know you don't like to actually read GD. :D

On August 01 2013 13:46 onlywonderboy wrote:
He's rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. We're a small community, people are slow to forget. It's not necessarily right but it's just kind of the way it is.


I never forget stuff, I just tuck it away in my memory banks. Like Cloud's friends saying Shen wasn't that great of a champion after his buffs. Or Asn calling me out for calling iG bad for S2 worlds, EVEN THOUGH I predicted where they would fall out. Ahhh GD, so many memories.
Hey! How you doin'?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 01 2013 04:47 GMT
#764
On August 01 2013 13:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 13:44 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:41 .AK wrote:
Holy shit this thread does not like Xizor. He was asked a question to which he gave a response (albeit an unusual one) and suddenly there is two pages of the most passive agresive posting I have seen in a while. If you don't like what he says don't respond or absolutely crush him with supporting facts (replays would be nice). We seem to acknowledge that Xizor doesn't give a shit about words and you guys refuse to stop arguing with him. Jeez he didn't even interrupt an on going discussion.

Xizor smurf? Or just xizor apologist/groupie?


Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 12:09 .AK wrote:
Regardless of the validity of any particular argument, as a friend of Prince I can vouch for him not being a "troll". He may absolutely suck at internet arguing, capitalize worth shit, and be incoherent to the point of embarrassment but whatever he is arguing for he actually believes, meaning he doesn't just start shit for the sake of starting shit which is my definition of a "troll".


Since I know you don't like to actually read GD. :D

Just about to call wei2 out on that xD
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 01 2013 04:47 GMT
#765
On August 01 2013 13:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 13:44 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:41 .AK wrote:
Holy shit this thread does not like Xizor. He was asked a question to which he gave a response (albeit an unusual one) and suddenly there is two pages of the most passive agresive posting I have seen in a while. If you don't like what he says don't respond or absolutely crush him with supporting facts (replays would be nice). We seem to acknowledge that Xizor doesn't give a shit about words and you guys refuse to stop arguing with him. Jeez he didn't even interrupt an on going discussion.

Xizor smurf? Or just xizor apologist/groupie?


Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 12:09 .AK wrote:
Regardless of the validity of any particular argument, as a friend of Prince I can vouch for him not being a "troll". He may absolutely suck at internet arguing, capitalize worth shit, and be incoherent to the point of embarrassment but whatever he is arguing for he actually believes, meaning he doesn't just start shit for the sake of starting shit which is my definition of a "troll".


Since I know you don't like to actually read GD. :D

he's wei 2 cool man
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 01 2013 04:48 GMT
#766
On August 01 2013 13:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 13:44 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:41 .AK wrote:
Holy shit this thread does not like Xizor. He was asked a question to which he gave a response (albeit an unusual one) and suddenly there is two pages of the most passive agresive posting I have seen in a while. If you don't like what he says don't respond or absolutely crush him with supporting facts (replays would be nice). We seem to acknowledge that Xizor doesn't give a shit about words and you guys refuse to stop arguing with him. Jeez he didn't even interrupt an on going discussion.

Xizor smurf? Or just xizor apologist/groupie?


Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 12:09 .AK wrote:
Regardless of the validity of any particular argument, as a friend of Prince I can vouch for him not being a "troll". He may absolutely suck at internet arguing, capitalize worth shit, and be incoherent to the point of embarrassment but whatever he is arguing for he actually believes, meaning he doesn't just start shit for the sake of starting shit which is my definition of a "troll".


Since I know you don't like to actually read GD. :D

Could just be an alter ego. Not the first time its happened in GD.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 01 2013 04:49 GMT
#767
Advice. Do not try to pretend its dota and rush merc scimitar on yi.
Freeeeeeedom
.AK
Profile Joined September 2010
United States561 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 04:51:55
August 01 2013 04:51 GMT
#768
On August 01 2013 13:48 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 13:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:44 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:41 .AK wrote:
Holy shit this thread does not like Xizor. He was asked a question to which he gave a response (albeit an unusual one) and suddenly there is two pages of the most passive agresive posting I have seen in a while. If you don't like what he says don't respond or absolutely crush him with supporting facts (replays would be nice). We seem to acknowledge that Xizor doesn't give a shit about words and you guys refuse to stop arguing with him. Jeez he didn't even interrupt an on going discussion.

Xizor smurf? Or just xizor apologist/groupie?


On August 01 2013 12:09 .AK wrote:
Regardless of the validity of any particular argument, as a friend of Prince I can vouch for him not being a "troll". He may absolutely suck at internet arguing, capitalize worth shit, and be incoherent to the point of embarrassment but whatever he is arguing for he actually believes, meaning he doesn't just start shit for the sake of starting shit which is my definition of a "troll".


Since I know you don't like to actually read GD. :D

Could just be an alter ego. Not the first time its happened in GD.

Would you like to be in the same skype call with me and Aaron (Xizor)?
All hail the glorious I sell T.Vs at Best Buy || #1 REQUIZEN FANBOI || IGN: .AK/BEST ANTIMAGE NA || Plat IV ADC Main
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 04:53:28
August 01 2013 04:52 GMT
#769
On August 01 2013 13:49 cLutZ wrote:
Advice. Do not try to pretend its dota and rush merc scimitar on yi.

B-b-but my BKB!
+ Show Spoiler +
also, just bought some pocari sweat at this korean store, time to see what all the hype is about.


On August 01 2013 13:51 .AK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 13:48 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:44 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:41 .AK wrote:
Holy shit this thread does not like Xizor. He was asked a question to which he gave a response (albeit an unusual one) and suddenly there is two pages of the most passive agresive posting I have seen in a while. If you don't like what he says don't respond or absolutely crush him with supporting facts (replays would be nice). We seem to acknowledge that Xizor doesn't give a shit about words and you guys refuse to stop arguing with him. Jeez he didn't even interrupt an on going discussion.

Xizor smurf? Or just xizor apologist/groupie?


On August 01 2013 12:09 .AK wrote:
Regardless of the validity of any particular argument, as a friend of Prince I can vouch for him not being a "troll". He may absolutely suck at internet arguing, capitalize worth shit, and be incoherent to the point of embarrassment but whatever he is arguing for he actually believes, meaning he doesn't just start shit for the sake of starting shit which is my definition of a "troll".


Since I know you don't like to actually read GD. :D

Could just be an alter ego. Not the first time its happened in GD.

Would you like to be in the same skype call with me and Aaron (Xizor)?

Well that answers my question. Xizor apologist it is.
liftlift > tsm
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
August 01 2013 04:52 GMT
#770
On August 01 2013 13:51 .AK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 13:48 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:44 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:41 .AK wrote:
Holy shit this thread does not like Xizor. He was asked a question to which he gave a response (albeit an unusual one) and suddenly there is two pages of the most passive agresive posting I have seen in a while. If you don't like what he says don't respond or absolutely crush him with supporting facts (replays would be nice). We seem to acknowledge that Xizor doesn't give a shit about words and you guys refuse to stop arguing with him. Jeez he didn't even interrupt an on going discussion.

Xizor smurf? Or just xizor apologist/groupie?


On August 01 2013 12:09 .AK wrote:
Regardless of the validity of any particular argument, as a friend of Prince I can vouch for him not being a "troll". He may absolutely suck at internet arguing, capitalize worth shit, and be incoherent to the point of embarrassment but whatever he is arguing for he actually believes, meaning he doesn't just start shit for the sake of starting shit which is my definition of a "troll".


Since I know you don't like to actually read GD. :D

Could just be an alter ego. Not the first time its happened in GD.

Would you like to be in the same skype call with me and Aaron (Xizor)?


Ben and Aaron, that's so cute.
Hey! How you doin'?
.AK
Profile Joined September 2010
United States561 Posts
August 01 2013 04:54 GMT
#771
On August 01 2013 13:52 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 13:51 .AK wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:48 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:44 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:41 .AK wrote:
Holy shit this thread does not like Xizor. He was asked a question to which he gave a response (albeit an unusual one) and suddenly there is two pages of the most passive agresive posting I have seen in a while. If you don't like what he says don't respond or absolutely crush him with supporting facts (replays would be nice). We seem to acknowledge that Xizor doesn't give a shit about words and you guys refuse to stop arguing with him. Jeez he didn't even interrupt an on going discussion.

Xizor smurf? Or just xizor apologist/groupie?


On August 01 2013 12:09 .AK wrote:
Regardless of the validity of any particular argument, as a friend of Prince I can vouch for him not being a "troll". He may absolutely suck at internet arguing, capitalize worth shit, and be incoherent to the point of embarrassment but whatever he is arguing for he actually believes, meaning he doesn't just start shit for the sake of starting shit which is my definition of a "troll".


Since I know you don't like to actually read GD. :D

Could just be an alter ego. Not the first time its happened in GD.

Would you like to be in the same skype call with me and Aaron (Xizor)?


Ben and Aaron, that's so cute.

Indeed, if he wasn't across the country I would probably go gay for him tbh.
All hail the glorious I sell T.Vs at Best Buy || #1 REQUIZEN FANBOI || IGN: .AK/BEST ANTIMAGE NA || Plat IV ADC Main
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 01 2013 04:56 GMT
#772
On August 01 2013 13:52 wei2coolman wrote:
also, just bought some pocari sweat at this korean store, time to see what all the hype is about.

Ive had that stuff before. I honestly dont think it's that good...
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
August 01 2013 05:02 GMT
#773
On August 01 2013 04:22 IMoperator wrote:
GUYS, I have the perfect idea to make AP Ezreal viable; make his W do damage to minions. The biggest problem with ap ez is his lack of waveclear, and this change would help him out a lot. also, it won't effect ad ezreal at all either, besides damaging the minions a little bit. perfect idea right? i should work at riot.


guys nobody commented on my idea
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 01 2013 05:02 GMT
#774
pocari sweat is gross as fuck
i admit after watching korean pros drink it all the time when i went to taiwan i immediately bought some at the 7-11 but i regretted it immediately
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 01 2013 05:03 GMT
#775
On August 01 2013 14:02 FinestHour wrote:
pocari sweat is gross as fuck
i admit after watching korean pros drink it all the time when i went to taiwan i immediately bought some at the 7-11 but i regretted it immediately

I did that too!

It's like...gatorade with less flavor.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
August 01 2013 05:08 GMT
#776
On August 01 2013 10:30 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 10:24 Zooper31 wrote:
On August 01 2013 10:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
phreak understands that streams are primarily for entertainment, and he casts accordingly

better that than tryhard shitty casters who try to pretend they're doing deep analysis or some shit when the depth of their analysis is equivalent to saying staying alive is good and dying is bad lol


Can't do in-depth analysis when the highest you've ever personally been is Gold. Until we get ex-Pros casting the best they can do is just provide entertainment and commentate on what is happening.

welp, time for people like monte and me to leave the scene


Didn't say they had to leave. I love most casters and Phreak is far from being our "Artosis" even though he's probably the highest rated caster we have now aside from maybe Jatt sometimes. I just want to be entertained when watching games with a tiny bit of info, which casters nowadays provide.

I was just saying that if you truly want an Artosis or Day9 like figure we need a ex-pro to go into casting, otherwise they will never have that experience to speak from.

But casters should seriously try their best to also get their skills at the highest lvl possible so they have a better understanding of the game.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 05:16:17
August 01 2013 05:12 GMT
#777
On August 01 2013 13:27 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 12:48 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 01 2013 12:45 Dusty wrote:
On August 01 2013 12:28 PrinceXizor wrote:
Ohmwrecker is pretty strong on kass overall though and i'd like to test it out as a first big item..


please let this be a joke

Without looking it up, name the stats on the item.


Actually lets be fair with this one.

Compare Ohmwrecker with RoA, which is already kind of a "standard" Kassadin buy.

RoA: 2800 gold
450-650 HP
450-650 mana
60-80 AP

Ohmwrecker: 2850 gold
350 HP
15 HP regen
15 mana regen
50 AP
Ohmwrecker active


Considering that the HP regen is probably stronger than 100 more HP during laning, and the mana regen is probably as good as or better than 450 extra mana, and the AP is similar, I'd daresay Ohmwrecker is probably stronger than a zero stacks RoA because of the active.

Whether or not it's as strong as the fully stacked RoA late game is I think a little more questionable, but I'd be willing to entertain this as a possible idea given certain matchups / team comps.

Also note that because it builds from a Philo, Ohmwrecker is probably overall slightly cheaper than RoA, and has an easier build path.

This is partially the reason, this and the fact that kassadin is at his strongest when he's seen as an oppressive force in the game, and usually at a roughly mid game timing (around 3-4 minutes post RoA/boots.) when he can roam and snowball his team.

Now compared to RoA its essentially the same item. and mana concerns don't exactly exist for kassadin until late in the game when he should be riftwalking far more than he does in the mid game. The issue with the item overall is that its not slot effective, but its cost effective and has an active that directly helps kassadin in the timing in which he needs to start controlling the game or gtfo and be a drain on his team. I value that far more than RoA at the same timing, especially since at that point in the game you tend to have blue buff, meaning the 450 mana isn't really necessary for your goal of killing people. Catalyst while good at hanging on desperately in a lane (something philo stone is arguably superior at due to the gp/10) doesn't do much for kassadin while ganking.

and yes the old ohmwrecker was much better overall as an item than this one.

BUT the slight decrease in stats is made up for by its incredibly strong timing. At the point you finish ohmwrecker you should be able to head bottom (or top if your jungler is at top) get a kill ( or two) and finish off the tower.

Mechanics about ohmwrecker you might not know:
It stops the tower from firing
it removes aggro from the tower for the duration of the ohmwrecker and a little after.
IT resets the towers attack count, lowering the damage the first shot out of ohmwrecker the tower does to its base value.

Overall ohmwrecker isn't there to be an item to make your late game stronger, if you want that then rod of ages is alright for it, though its not the best for kassadin since its timing window is past where it needs to be. Its there to create an incredibly powerful timing that peaks with kassadins point of maximum impact on the game. while being cost efficient enough to warrant its continued space in your inventory while you continue to build items afterwards.

.AK is one of my teammates for the DOTA 2 liquid league. if we're the same guy it just makes me really really good at dota .


TL;DR games are far more about timings than just having the best numbers on your stat sheet.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 05:18:04
August 01 2013 05:17 GMT
#778
On August 01 2013 13:54 .AK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 13:52 Zdrastochye wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:51 .AK wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:48 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:44 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 01 2013 13:41 .AK wrote:
Holy shit this thread does not like Xizor. He was asked a question to which he gave a response (albeit an unusual one) and suddenly there is two pages of the most passive agresive posting I have seen in a while. If you don't like what he says don't respond or absolutely crush him with supporting facts (replays would be nice). We seem to acknowledge that Xizor doesn't give a shit about words and you guys refuse to stop arguing with him. Jeez he didn't even interrupt an on going discussion.

Xizor smurf? Or just xizor apologist/groupie?


On August 01 2013 12:09 .AK wrote:
Regardless of the validity of any particular argument, as a friend of Prince I can vouch for him not being a "troll". He may absolutely suck at internet arguing, capitalize worth shit, and be incoherent to the point of embarrassment but whatever he is arguing for he actually believes, meaning he doesn't just start shit for the sake of starting shit which is my definition of a "troll".


Since I know you don't like to actually read GD. :D

Could just be an alter ego. Not the first time its happened in GD.

Would you like to be in the same skype call with me and Aaron (Xizor)?


Ben and Aaron, that's so cute.

Indeed, if he wasn't across the country I would probably go gay for him tbh.

lol
The reason people don't want to deal with Xizor anymore because they're tired of it. At some point or another people usually give constructive replies to his post, but he seems to never change his ideas on something, the best he will do when his idea got shot down is he stops replying or "it's situational." Most people don't really bother to read his lengthy and vague posts anymore.

Edit: Like that ^
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 05:24:27
August 01 2013 05:18 GMT
#779
On August 01 2013 14:02 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 04:22 IMoperator wrote:
GUYS, I have the perfect idea to make AP Ezreal viable; make his W do damage to minions. The biggest problem with ap ez is his lack of waveclear, and this change would help him out a lot. also, it won't effect ad ezreal at all either, besides damaging the minions a little bit. perfect idea right? i should work at riot.


guys nobody commented on my idea


Dude, AP Ez is already viable. That blue build IS essentially AP Ez build. Koreans ran him mid with the build as well. GG!

On August 01 2013 14:12 PrinceXizor wrote:
Now compared to RoA its essentially the same item. and mana concerns don't exactly exist for kassadin until late.


I don't really care for anything else, but this tells me you don't really play Kassadin often. His mana issues are pretty huge, and it's one of the biggest reasons people rush RoA on him. You cannot be effective without that mana.

I didn't want to quote the whole post for just that one line, so I won't.

My initial reason for asking you the question is because Kassadin reminds me of more of a classical champion, rather than these new champions. Wanted to see how someone coming from DotA thought of him. I didn't really mean to draw attention to the fact that you like ohmwrecker as an item, and want to test it on everyone. I apologize for that part.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
August 01 2013 05:20 GMT
#780
of course ketara is the one who agrees with xizor's bullshit lol

you guys should read what kass' ult does
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