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ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 16:30:34
June 16 2013 16:30 GMT
#1601
Have people seen this? It's a bit too long to copy and quote here, so I'll link it. More solid info on the Xerath changes coming up.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=38786873#post38786873

I will quote this though:

Passive
Xerath's passive provides early game mana regen, plus bonus spell penetration as he purchases mana items. This gives him early game sustain, allowing him to farm into a large-game mage hypercarry if left unchecked.


I'm really scared of this. I don't see how this is safe to do.


On June 16 2013 23:52 Letmelose wrote:
Rumour has it Helios has been kicked out of CJ Entus Blaze, it seems that Helios has changed his employment status on his Facebook page, which has caught the eye of numerous Korean netizens. With all these changes going on before the start of the summer season, some roster changes for the CJ Entus franchise are certainly not out of the realms of possibility.


Secondly, Helios being kicked out seems odd. He was a big part of the reason they won against Frost. It also helped that their bot lane played at a higher level than before. Does Helios make the calls in the team? It might make sense of that's the case, but it's still very odd/surprising.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
June 16 2013 16:32 GMT
#1602
your puns are udderly terrible
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 16 2013 16:37 GMT
#1603
On June 17 2013 01:30 ketchup wrote:
Have people seen this? It's a bit too long to copy and quote here, so I'll link it. More solid info on the Xerath changes coming up.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=38786873#post38786873

I will quote this though:

Show nested quote +
Passive
Xerath's passive provides early game mana regen, plus bonus spell penetration as he purchases mana items. This gives him early game sustain, allowing him to farm into a large-game mage hypercarry if left unchecked.


I'm really scared of this. I don't see how this is safe to do.


Show nested quote +
On June 16 2013 23:52 Letmelose wrote:
Rumour has it Helios has been kicked out of CJ Entus Blaze, it seems that Helios has changed his employment status on his Facebook page, which has caught the eye of numerous Korean netizens. With all these changes going on before the start of the summer season, some roster changes for the CJ Entus franchise are certainly not out of the realms of possibility.


Secondly, Helios being kicked out seems odd. He was a big part of the reason they won against Frost. It also helped that their bot lane played at a higher level than before. Does Helios make the calls in the team? It might make sense of that's the case, but it's still very odd/surprising.

Seems like his stun might be a little harder to hit if the skillshot doesn't go through minions, a change worth noting.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
June 16 2013 16:38 GMT
#1604
As an actual farmer, I'm way pasture level with farm puns.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
June 16 2013 16:39 GMT
#1605
On June 17 2013 01:38 TheHumanSensation wrote:
As an actual farmer, I'm way pasture level with farm puns.

It would be-hoof you to leave this one to the pros.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 16 2013 17:04 GMT
#1606
I've been having trouble connecting-- my loading has been super slow the last couple days, anyone else have this problem?

So you know what really annoys me? I want to make risotto with some leftover rice and salmon scraps, but I can't buy wine cuz I'm 20. :/
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 16 2013 17:12 GMT
#1607
On June 17 2013 02:04 ticklishmusic wrote:
I've been having trouble connecting-- my loading has been super slow the last couple days, anyone else have this problem?

So you know what really annoys me? I want to make risotto with some leftover rice and salmon scraps, but I can't buy wine cuz I'm 20. :/


Heh, silly americans.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
June 16 2013 17:18 GMT
#1608
On June 17 2013 02:04 ticklishmusic wrote:
I've been having trouble connecting-- my loading has been super slow the last couple days, anyone else have this problem?

So you know what really annoys me? I want to make risotto with some leftover rice and salmon scraps, but I can't buy wine cuz I'm 20. :/


wine isn't mandatory for risotto. it's only the little extra that can make the difference between good and awesome risotto. I'm sure you can find good risotto recipes without wine
Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
June 16 2013 17:25 GMT
#1609
On June 17 2013 01:39 Dgiese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 01:38 TheHumanSensation wrote:
As an actual farmer, I'm way pasture level with farm puns.

It would be-hoof you to leave this one to the pros.


This is reason I try to avoid reddit.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 16 2013 17:31 GMT
#1610
On June 17 2013 01:30 ketchup wrote:
Have people seen this? It's a bit too long to copy and quote here, so I'll link it. More solid info on the Xerath changes coming up.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=38786873#post38786873

I will quote this though:

Show nested quote +
Passive
Xerath's passive provides early game mana regen, plus bonus spell penetration as he purchases mana items. This gives him early game sustain, allowing him to farm into a large-game mage hypercarry if left unchecked.


I'm really scared of this. I don't see how this is safe to do.


Show nested quote +
On June 16 2013 23:52 Letmelose wrote:
Rumour has it Helios has been kicked out of CJ Entus Blaze, it seems that Helios has changed his employment status on his Facebook page, which has caught the eye of numerous Korean netizens. With all these changes going on before the start of the summer season, some roster changes for the CJ Entus franchise are certainly not out of the realms of possibility.


Secondly, Helios being kicked out seems odd. He was a big part of the reason they won against Frost. It also helped that their bot lane played at a higher level than before. Does Helios make the calls in the team? It might make sense of that's the case, but it's still very odd/surprising.


Arent they changing his ult to be his W and his W to his ult? Or something similar? It would make sense in some respects, although that would make him the safest lategame damage mage in the game, because now Karthus, Cassio, and Ryze all have to get in your face.
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
June 16 2013 17:42 GMT
#1611
On June 17 2013 02:31 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 01:30 ketchup wrote:
Have people seen this? It's a bit too long to copy and quote here, so I'll link it. More solid info on the Xerath changes coming up.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=38786873#post38786873

I will quote this though:

Passive
Xerath's passive provides early game mana regen, plus bonus spell penetration as he purchases mana items. This gives him early game sustain, allowing him to farm into a large-game mage hypercarry if left unchecked.


I'm really scared of this. I don't see how this is safe to do.


On June 16 2013 23:52 Letmelose wrote:
Rumour has it Helios has been kicked out of CJ Entus Blaze, it seems that Helios has changed his employment status on his Facebook page, which has caught the eye of numerous Korean netizens. With all these changes going on before the start of the summer season, some roster changes for the CJ Entus franchise are certainly not out of the realms of possibility.


Secondly, Helios being kicked out seems odd. He was a big part of the reason they won against Frost. It also helped that their bot lane played at a higher level than before. Does Helios make the calls in the team? It might make sense of that's the case, but it's still very odd/surprising.


Arent they changing his ult to be his W and his W to his ult? Or something similar? It would make sense in some respects, although that would make him the safest lategame damage mage in the game, because now Karthus, Cassio, and Ryze all have to get in your face.


Obviously they are tweaked a bit, but yes.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
June 16 2013 18:04 GMT
#1612
Haven't been playing LoL since ~ Jayce got released, can anyone explain to me what happenned to Shyv and Mundo that they basically disappeared from the game?
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
June 16 2013 18:04 GMT
#1613
Is Shen vs Zed the only actual lore matchup that happens regularly? Considering they are both common top lane picks?

I guess back when graves was king there was him vs TF, but that wasn't usually in the same lane. Or jungle nasus vs reneck?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 16 2013 18:05 GMT
#1614
On June 17 2013 03:04 Vanka wrote:
Is Shen vs Zed the only actual lore matchup that happens regularly? Considering they are both common top lane picks?

I guess back when graves was king there was him vs TF, but that wasn't usually in the same lane. Or jungle nasus vs reneck?


Nasus vs Renekton yo
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 16 2013 18:06 GMT
#1615
I know that there has been alot of brother tag-team renekton+nasus in last season of LCS :O
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 16 2013 18:07 GMT
#1616
So.... Team Coast Gaming; has Elementz as coach, 2nd place after super week.

Curse in 7th place.

JUST SAYING.
liftlift > tsm
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23470 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 18:08:34
June 16 2013 18:08 GMT
#1617
On June 17 2013 03:04 Kaniol wrote:
Haven't been playing LoL since ~ Jayce got released, can anyone explain to me what happenned to Shyv and Mundo that they basically disappeared from the game?


nerfs to hp items and also to resists across the board
these champs typically built full tank
aka Teutonica
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
June 16 2013 18:09 GMT
#1618
On June 17 2013 03:08 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 03:04 Kaniol wrote:
Haven't been playing LoL since ~ Jayce got released, can anyone explain to me what happenned to Shyv and Mundo that they basically disappeared from the game?


nerfs to hp items and also to resists across the board
these champs typically built full tank


More like every single champion and their mothers getting % hp based abilites.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23470 Posts
June 16 2013 18:12 GMT
#1619
no that happened as well

warmogs used to give over 1300 hp
shyvana used to get like 50 resists at lvl 16 with ult
randuins warmogs were both much better lategame
shyvana and mundo also both got nerfs
aka Teutonica
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 18:17:16
June 16 2013 18:16 GMT
#1620
On June 17 2013 03:04 Kaniol wrote:
Haven't been playing LoL since ~ Jayce got released, can anyone explain to me what happenned to Shyv and Mundo that they basically disappeared from the game?


Mostly shifts in the meta game more than anything. But they did nerf the crap out of Shy W, lowered her base armor and attack speed as well. Her early clear is actually much rougher than say a Nautilus or Sejuani now.

Basically support junglers just fit better with the current farm allocation and put out a lot more map pressure. Who you more scared of ganking you? A Lee Sin with relatively no farm or a Shyvana?
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