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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
June 12 2013 19:35 GMT
#561
So much SoloMid haiiiiip~~~~~

Btw what happened with the Quantic moving into the TSM house? I liked that idea a lot but didn't hear any follow-up
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 19:38:55
June 12 2013 19:38 GMT
#562
On June 13 2013 04:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 04:28 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Sent a PM to Neo 5 days ago and didn't get a reply, so I guess I'll make it an open letter thingy.

"Hey Neo! I've always wondered how a Diamond++ subforum would work out (is there the tech for that in TL..?). It'd be kinda like the Junkies only section of Arena Junkies where only Diamond++ players could post but anyone could view. The section would be moderated to even higher standards and would hopefully encourage some really good, pre-filtered discussion. It might also serve as a cool pull factor for pros and such to join us on TL (;"

I actually kind of like this idea tbh, but the problem is Diamond level in general feels so nebulous.


Only cos you're not in it! =p
I just thought Diamond was the easiest and most straightforward cut-off point that should increase quality of posting without making it a total dead-zone. Besides, some of the best Korean players are still in Diamond, it's the MMR that counts (;

PS: I wish I didn't have to use AJ as an example (REAL SHITPOSTING) but yeah...
cool beans
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 19:40:28
June 12 2013 19:40 GMT
#563
Nashor's Lichbane TF is so funny, I actually felt like the badass tf from the latest cinematic. So much on hit dmg, but don't be surprised if you cant insta waveclear with Q anymore lol

20% cdr is also really good since ult cd got increased
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
June 12 2013 19:41 GMT
#564
I think that Diamond+ thing was discussed about a trillion times in SC2 when it became cool to start fights with pros on TL. It's been awhile but I don't think TL staff was very for it.

Also with LoL, how many Diamond+ players are really on this forum? 15-20? How many are Diamond+ AND post on a very regular basis? 5? How many are Diamond+, post on a regular basis AND are willing to spend months talking to the same people over and over? 1-2?
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 12 2013 19:42 GMT
#565
My apologies to nyx^3 about not answering his PM promptly but his idea is going to get nixed (hue) from the getgo.
1) The idea of a "bigpro" subforum has been thrown around since the SC days. Where the little guys could read (but not interrupt) the bigpros discussing strategy. But in the end TLHQ thought this would set a poor precedence and veto'd the idea.
2) This idea revolves about TL LoL getting another subforum and/or additional coding to make certain accounts special and block the rest. We aren't fully backed by TLHQ as a mainstay game, so again, this won't fly.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 19:49:43
June 12 2013 19:46 GMT
#566
Trolls was supposed to be some elite thing where the best of TL people would theorycraft and try to progress the knowledge of the game past the diamond ignorance, but that was before Montezuma hijacked the concept for his own nefarious purposes...

This was also proposed earlier to be implemented in the same way that SC2 strategy does it: have diamond+ players have blue posts. Didn't go through, my guess is for the same reasons as the reasons stated above
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 12 2013 19:47 GMT
#567
On June 13 2013 04:41 Diamond wrote:
I think that Diamond+ thing was discussed about a trillion times in SC2 when it became cool to start fights with pros on TL. It's been awhile but I don't think TL staff was very for it.

Also with LoL, how many Diamond+ players are really on this forum? 15-20? How many are Diamond+ AND post on a very regular basis? 5? How many are Diamond+, post on a regular basis AND are willing to spend months talking to the same people over and over? 1-2?

It's ok cause you get in automatically
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
June 12 2013 19:47 GMT
#568
The diamond+ thing could be easily moderated with a thread tbh, no need for a subforum / special account privledges.

Think about it, 90% of the people here are veterans who know how the subforum works and wouldnt troll about...

wait nevermind.
Useless wet fish.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
June 12 2013 19:54 GMT
#569
On June 13 2013 04:41 Diamond wrote:
I think that Diamond+ thing was discussed about a trillion times in SC2 when it became cool to start fights with pros on TL. It's been awhile but I don't think TL staff was very for it.

Also with LoL, how many Diamond+ players are really on this forum? 15-20? How many are Diamond+ AND post on a very regular basis? 5? How many are Diamond+, post on a regular basis AND are willing to spend months talking to the same people over and over? 1-2?

I'm part of the group. Counting EUW and NA we're a pretty big bunch of diamonds around here.
The legend of Darien lives on
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 19:56:57
June 12 2013 19:56 GMT
#570
But if someone is diamond it doesn't mean he is good or knows what he is talking about.Why would people care?
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 19:58:24
June 12 2013 19:58 GMT
#571
On June 13 2013 04:56 nafta wrote:
But if someone is diamond it doesn't mean he is good or knows what he is talking about.Why would people care?

<- This guy is bitter because he got lots of terrible Diamond players with him in the last month. Don't worry Nafta. I still love you.
The legend of Darien lives on
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 12 2013 19:58 GMT
#572
On June 13 2013 04:58 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 04:56 nafta wrote:
But if someone is diamond it doesn't mean he is good or knows what he is talking about.Why would people care?

<- This guy is bitter because he got lots of terrible Diamond players with him in the last month.


Well not bitter it's a fact.There are tons of players who are diamond and are just terrible and have absolutely no clue how to play.
Lounge
Profile Joined November 2011
537 Posts
June 12 2013 19:59 GMT
#573
Chat restriction rules tend to go bad for primary two reasons:

1. It stops the higher players from making any discussion with the lower ones. If I'm diamond+ why should I even visit the non diamond+ subforum? It's just a bunch of inferior players that won't give me the respect I deserve. So when Best_Wood_EU has a question, for diamonds, he's going to have to hope they discuss it themselves because they are less likely to visit his forum.

2. It creates a sense of less serious discussion in the other forum. We can troll here all we want, here's my AD Heimer guide. If you want serious discussion go to the diamond forum. If Diamond is heavily moderated serious discussion the contrast is trolly nonsensical discussion. While it wouldn't degrade the forum immediately the separation would slowly become apparent.

Instead why not just encourage this forum to have respectful discussion regardless of division. (Which it is actually pretty good at, and offenders are easily noticed and called out on it.)
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 20:02:04
June 12 2013 19:59 GMT
#574
On June 13 2013 04:56 nafta wrote:
But if someone is diamond it doesn't mean he is good or knows what he is talking about.Why would people care?


Well consider Arena Junkies - if someone was a gladiator it didn't mean he's good or knows what he's talking about. It's just assumed the conversation will be less retarded than a forum that's open to everyone (read: official forums).

That kind of stance towards posting has been discouraged on TL. There was no TL-like environment for WoW, so something like AJ was actually nice to have to avoid the general discussion boards. But with TL it's not really needed.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 12 2013 20:00 GMT
#575
On June 13 2013 04:58 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 04:58 mr_tolkien wrote:
On June 13 2013 04:56 nafta wrote:
But if someone is diamond it doesn't mean he is good or knows what he is talking about.Why would people care?

<- This guy is bitter because he got lots of terrible Diamond players with him in the last month.


Well not bitter it's a fact.There are tons of players who are diamond and are just terrible and have absolutely no clue how to play.


Well, the Diamond players on TL generally have an idea what they're doing (I know, I know, I'm the exception).

This argument doesn't matter at all though because Neo has already said it won't happen.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
June 12 2013 20:01 GMT
#576
On June 13 2013 04:58 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 04:58 mr_tolkien wrote:
On June 13 2013 04:56 nafta wrote:
But if someone is diamond it doesn't mean he is good or knows what he is talking about.Why would people care?

<- This guy is bitter because he got lots of terrible Diamond players with him in the last month.


Well not bitter it's a fact.There are tons of players who are diamond and are just terrible and have absolutely no clue how to play.


I'm perfectly fine with someone carrying me to diamond and then setting me loose in the wild to prove this theory.
Stay positive!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 12 2013 20:02 GMT
#577
On June 13 2013 05:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 04:58 nafta wrote:
On June 13 2013 04:58 mr_tolkien wrote:
On June 13 2013 04:56 nafta wrote:
But if someone is diamond it doesn't mean he is good or knows what he is talking about.Why would people care?

<- This guy is bitter because he got lots of terrible Diamond players with him in the last month.


Well not bitter it's a fact.There are tons of players who are diamond and are just terrible and have absolutely no clue how to play.


Well, the Diamond players on TL generally have an idea what they're doing (I know, I know, I'm the exception).

This argument doesn't matter at all though because Neo has already said it won't happen.


Well no I am not talking about tl lol.I am talking in general.Personally until I play with someone and see how they play I don't assume anything.Like I've seen people who play well in plat 3 I've seen people who are garbage in diamond 1.

Winning in solo que and being good are 2 different things.If you are good generally you will get high but being high doesn't mean that you are good.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 20:04:31
June 12 2013 20:03 GMT
#578
I'm diamond 5, but I got carried really hard all the way except for the 4th game of my promotion series. Huehuehue.

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
June 12 2013 20:05 GMT
#579
Any up to date guides / highlights of karma? I'm curious to try it ;P
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 12 2013 20:06 GMT
#580
On June 13 2013 05:02 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 05:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On June 13 2013 04:58 nafta wrote:
On June 13 2013 04:58 mr_tolkien wrote:
On June 13 2013 04:56 nafta wrote:
But if someone is diamond it doesn't mean he is good or knows what he is talking about.Why would people care?

<- This guy is bitter because he got lots of terrible Diamond players with him in the last month.


Well not bitter it's a fact.There are tons of players who are diamond and are just terrible and have absolutely no clue how to play.


Well, the Diamond players on TL generally have an idea what they're doing (I know, I know, I'm the exception).

This argument doesn't matter at all though because Neo has already said it won't happen.


Well no I am not talking about tl lol.I am talking in general.Personally until I play with someone and see how they play I don't assume anything.Like I've seen people who play well in plat 3 I've seen people who are garbage in diamond 1.

Winning in solo que and being good are 2 different things.If you are good generally you will get high but being high doesn't mean that you are good.


Your argument is irrelevant then. The proposition was a TL sub group. I don't know why you're arguing about the skill level of the general public. We all know that 99% of the players who are not Challenger are relatively trash (including myself and many of us).
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
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