EPT[Patch 3.07: Nerf Everything Not Nami] General Discussion…
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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3 If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
nvm. I found a guy on stream lol. There's always a Jayce on stream. As suspected he lost all lane trades but against someone with low kill potential like shen it seemed all right. Plus the bonus of being offensive top is that you can build lifesteal and afford to lose all trades by 300 life XD. | ||
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Mensol
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
On May 20 2013 01:34 Mensol wrote: hey guys, thoughts on swain? bad, short range, not much burst and gets outscaled fast past midgame. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On May 20 2013 01:34 Mensol wrote: hey guys, thoughts on swain? Needs farm and blue, can do good damage and is fairly tanky, but you can just play Mundo instead if you want to fill that kind of niche with less farm. Also, there are items that pretty much hard counter him like Morello's. But fun to play with a fiddle and go CAW CAW MUTHAFUCKAAAAA | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
He is good against kiteable melee champs and when fed he can literally 1v3 people. There isn't much reason to pick him over Ryze though. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On May 20 2013 01:41 ticklishmusic wrote: Needs farm and blue, can do good damage and is fairly tanky, but you can just play Mundo instead if you want to fill that kind of niche with less farm. Also, there are items that pretty much hard counter him like Morello's. But fun to play with a fiddle and go CAW CAW MUTHAFUCKAAAAA He doesn't need blue in lane, in fact, he has very good mana sustain if you can last hit properly. He's just a forgotten champ like many others, and he's very good in the right hands. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
On May 20 2013 01:59 mr_tolkien wrote: He doesn't need blue in lane, in fact, he has very good mana sustain if you can last hit properly. He's just a forgotten champ like many others, and he's very good in the right hands. no love for southpaws  | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
On May 20 2013 02:20 Shikyo wrote: Swain EQ -> autos -> W the escape route trading is really strong against ranged mages as well if he can get close. His waveclear also is NP after 6 and he doesn't need a blue as all Swains rush Athenes as well. Remember Anivia waveclear is awful before 6 as well. I don't think he's awful but there's usually better options short ranged sustained damage ap mages that have to be in the middle of fight and have only skillshot cc are awful sadly | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On May 20 2013 02:21 Artok wrote: short ranged sustained damage ap mages that have to be in the middle of fight and have only skillshot cc are awful sadly You mean vlad, minus the cc? | ||
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Schwopzi
Netherlands954 Posts
As far as i can tell most popular mid champs can get to and eliminate other squishies in teamfights with proper play or just do retarded aoe damage (im lookin at you karthus and ryze). You could pick him for his cc but then there are also much better options (like cho). | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On May 19 2013 23:01 Letmelose wrote: Now I understand why iG throws so much. I would gouge my eyeballs out purely from frustration if I had to play like this every single game. I personally thought it wouldn't be so bad if China won the All Stars Championship since it would be more likely we'll get to enjoy the talents of players such as Uzi, Cool, and LoveLin. Now I'll be praying everyday that Korea takes it. Imagine the group stages filled with teams like Evil Geniuses, Team We, and OMG. They will bore their oppositon into submission. imo china plays safe but if they have an advantage, they press it like no other. i've seen a ton of 18:00 baron attempts in the last few weeks. korea is definitely more ballsy. compared to NA though, china is way more exciting. at least china seizes opportunities. also in dota, chinese were known for being farmers before, but they were the more aggressive teams in TI2 and they continued to be more aggressive following that. on the other hand western teams have had games where they sacrifice lanes (as in, there's no one in that lane for one team, letting the other carry free-farm as they try and make plays elsewhere). let's not get ahead of ourselves and believe the reputation before actually watching a good chunk of games this reminds me of how flash in BW was known here as a boring turtle when a lot of his games at the time were actually exciting and aggressive and often times needed ingenuity because he'd fall into a pit early game and needed to come back in the mid and late game. but nope, had that reputation of being a turtle so everyone would call him that without actually watching the games... | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
he's not too bad in lane, but once out of lane he feels binary. either too squishy and gets blown up, or a never dying idgaf of crows | ||
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