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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 23 2013 07:27 GMT
#2121
On May 23 2013 16:13 Amui wrote:
Red - AD/Mpen
Quints - AD/AP

I think these are better for starting. Arpen is more specialized, and while it is slightly better, at lower levels especially the ability to miss fewer last hits is worth far more.

Then add AS red, GP10 quints for jungle/support pages.


Those quints are really expensive (6k each so 12k.)

The AD is cheaper so yah, whatevs.

AS and GP10 are good too, but the person in question had 15k at 22 and wanted to know about buying runes or champs, i suggested a "one page fits all" layout (Well, 2, because of ad/ap) which it would have fit well enough (the HP quints will work on anything really.)
Useless wet fish.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
May 23 2013 07:43 GMT
#2122
Does Chauster really put 21 points in utility as a jungler? xD
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 23 2013 07:45 GMT
#2123
On May 23 2013 16:43 zer0das wrote:
Does Chauster really put 21 points in utility as a jungler? xD

This is why he sucks. hue.
liftlift > tsm
Capricious_LoL
Profile Joined December 2012
United States222 Posts
May 23 2013 07:54 GMT
#2124
21 util isn't bad, and is almost standard on Hec. Pretty much all junglers benefit from the ms.
NA LoL: Capriciøus
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
May 23 2013 08:03 GMT
#2125
MS is very good, but almost every point before that is wasted on a jungler. CDR, mana per level, spell vamp and lifesteal? Or armor/mr, hp, and more hp and reduced damage taken. If you had the points you would take almost everything in the defense tree, the utility tree honestly sucks.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
May 23 2013 08:08 GMT
#2126
On May 23 2013 16:54 Capriccioso wrote:
21 util isn't bad, and is almost standard on Hec. Pretty much all junglers benefit from the ms.

nunu really loves the gp5

can get that warmogs real early
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Capricious_LoL
Profile Joined December 2012
United States222 Posts
May 23 2013 08:29 GMT
#2127
The CDR, xp bonus, summoner CDR are all very good, spell vamp and lifesteal helps a bit with early sustain. I actually do go 0/21/9 standard for most junglers, but if MS quints are good on junglers when you could've had armor quints, then I think 21 util is worth trying for oneself, and making the judgement on your own which is better on specific junglers.
NA LoL: Capriciøus
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
May 23 2013 09:02 GMT
#2128
On May 23 2013 15:48 NeoIllusions wrote:
They call me Belial...

Oh, so you're a terrible liar then. Everyone saw through your disguise in D3 bro.


Also, while I was having latency issues, Lissandra kinda annoying to play against as Fiora mid lane. Want to try and flesh this matchup out more. Hm...
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 23 2013 09:06 GMT
#2129
Him being underfarmed and 21 utilit certainly explains why every chausrer jarvan EQ into ult initiate is followed by him flashing away with 30%hp before his team could even follow up
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 23 2013 10:57 GMT
#2130
No. That one's only lack of manliness.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 23 2013 11:37 GMT
#2131
Neo, you look much younger than I expected. How old are you?
Terran
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 11:38:30
May 23 2013 11:38 GMT
#2132
age level - asian
he could be 40 for all we know
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 23 2013 12:19 GMT
#2133
On May 23 2013 20:38 Slayer91 wrote:
age level - asian
he could be 40 for all we know


So fucking true.

They spend their whole lives looking 20-25 then one day they look 50 and your like :O and they'r eall "yeah i look good for 92"

Bastards, always looking good xD
Useless wet fish.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
May 23 2013 12:54 GMT
#2134
My god jayce is the most fun champion
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 23 2013 12:58 GMT
#2135
On May 23 2013 21:54 schmutttt wrote:
My god jayce is the most fun champion

Not from the other side. Stop now before I am forced to despise you.
It's your boy Guzma!
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
May 23 2013 13:16 GMT
#2136
On May 23 2013 14:18 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 14:15 dartoo wrote:
Question guys, I've got about 15k points saved up, and around level 22, should I just start buying heroes, or is it better to get some runes and just play with the free heroes? I've currently unlocked ashe, amumu and tristana,all from garena promotions. A lot of the people I'm facing now hae full pages of runes, and if feels like it gives them some advantage esp. early game, of while jungling.
Also are t3 runes really worth the price at this point? They are three times the cost for a small upgrade

Just get essentials for what you want to play.
Rune prices are actually fucking stupid expensive; Riot really should lower the prices of runes.

get ur basic ad/ap rune pages then u can buy whatever u want
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 13:21:39
May 23 2013 13:20 GMT
#2137
if we wants voy and scarra to post, lets just add in something in the recaps they read along the lines of "hey guys you should post".

also, dlift needs to find a new haircut.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 23 2013 13:24 GMT
#2138
On May 23 2013 21:58 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 21:54 schmutttt wrote:
My god jayce is the most fun champion

Not from the other side. Stop now before I am forced to despise you.


If you can't beat 'em... + Show Spoiler +
POWER SLAM.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 23 2013 13:24 GMT
#2139
On May 23 2013 16:43 zer0das wrote:
Does Chauster really put 21 points in utility as a jungler? xD

I run 0/9/21 on Amumu depending on team comp

The gold gen mastery and cdr are really valuable imo, movespeed is gr9, and buff/xp mastery helps a lot too
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 23 2013 13:32 GMT
#2140
On May 23 2013 22:24 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 21:58 Requizen wrote:
On May 23 2013 21:54 schmutttt wrote:
My god jayce is the most fun champion

Not from the other side. Stop now before I am forced to despise you.


If you can't beat 'em... + Show Spoiler +
POWER SLAM.

You are just the worst type of person
It's your boy Guzma!
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