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[Patch 3.05: Balance Update] General Discussion - Page 117

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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 19 2013 21:26 GMT
#2321
On April 20 2013 06:15 overt wrote:
I think it's fucking bullshit that China has Misaya instead of Zz1tai but China should win anyway.

I think they're better off with Misaya on mid because iG has been experimenting with a role swap between Kid and Zzitai in a few games.

In terms of individual ability, I think the team proposed in the poll (Weixiao Misaya Clearlove PDD Xiaoxiao) is close to the strongest they could have in terms of individual skill (obviously less coordination issues the more people you have from the same team). Only spot that's up for contention is support, but with Xiaoxiao you have the magic of the battle cry Sona ult.
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 19 2013 21:27 GMT
#2322
On April 20 2013 06:26 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 06:15 overt wrote:
I think it's fucking bullshit that China has Misaya instead of Zz1tai but China should win anyway.

I think they're better off with Misaya on mid because iG has been experimenting with a role swap between Kid and Zzitai in a few games.

In terms of individual ability, I think the team proposed in the poll (Weixiao Misaya Clearlove PDD Xiaoxiao) is close to the strongest they could have in terms of individual skill (obviously less coordination issues the more people you have from the same team). Only spot that's up for contention is support, but with Xiaoxiao you have the magic of the battle cry Sona ult.

xiaoxiao is next level sona player.

proof:

[image loading]
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
April 19 2013 21:31 GMT
#2323
On April 20 2013 06:26 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 06:15 overt wrote:
I think it's fucking bullshit that China has Misaya instead of Zz1tai but China should win anyway.

I think they're better off with Misaya on mid because iG has been experimenting with a role swap between Kid and Zzitai in a few games.

In terms of individual ability, I think the team proposed in the poll (Weixiao Misaya Clearlove PDD Xiaoxiao) is close to the strongest they could have in terms of individual skill (obviously less coordination issues the more people you have from the same team). Only spot that's up for contention is support, but with Xiaoxiao you have the magic of the battle cry Sona ult.


Yeah, I don't mean to take anything away from Misaya. He's still probably better than most of the other AP mids going.

But I really like Zz1tai. I understand why the fan base didn't vote him in (WE too popular and role swapping stuff).
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 23:08:52
April 19 2013 21:32 GMT
#2324
On April 20 2013 04:32 Mensol wrote:
Rosters of LCS All-Star tournament:

+ Show Spoiler +
Team Europe:

Gambit Gaming AlexIch - AP
fnatic sOAZ - Top
Gambit Gaming Diamond - Jungle
Gambit Gaming Edward - Support
Evil Geniuses Yellowpete - AD

Team North America:

Dignitas Scarra - AP
TeamSoloMid Dyrus - Top
Curse Saintvicious - Jungle
TeamSoloMid Xpecial - Support
CounterLogicGaming Doublelift - AD

Team Korea:

CJ Blaze Ambition - AP
NajinSworD MakNooN - Top
KTRolsterB inSec - Jungle
CJ Frost MadLife - Support
NajinSworD PraY - AD

Team China:

WorldElite Misaya - AP
Invictus Gaming PDD - Top
WorldElite Troll - Jungle
Invictus Gaming XiaoXiao - Support
WorldElite WeiXiao - AD

Team Southeast Asia:

Taipei Assasins Toyz - AP
Taipei Assasins Stanley - Top
Taipei Snipers OhreaL - Jungle
Taipei Snipers MistakE - Support
Taipei Assasins bebe - AD


Poll: Poll: Which Region Will Win The LCS All-Star Tournament?

Team China (17)
 
40%

Team Southeast Asia (8)
 
19%

Team North America (7)
 
17%

Team Korea (6)
 
14%

Team Europe (4)
 
10%

42 total votes

Your vote: Poll: Which Region Will Win The LCS All-Star Tournament?

(Vote): Team Europe
(Vote): Team North America
(Vote): Team Korea
(Vote): Team China
(Vote): Team Southeast Asia




btw Korean vote will end on 24th April, Chinese vote will end on 30th April but these players are pretty much guaranteed spot on all star team, maybe except PraY.

Most of them have 60% vote or so.


oh i found bracket on reddit:

[image loading]
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 19 2013 21:33 GMT
#2325
Sona has a battle cry?
(I think I already did that one.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 19 2013 21:43 GMT
#2326
On April 20 2013 06:33 Alaric wrote:
Sona has a battle cry?
(I think I already did that one.)

"... ;-)"
It's your boy Guzma!
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
April 19 2013 22:05 GMT
#2327
the all stars actually looks quite good. im really interested to see how KR will shape up in the upcoming weeks, but i agree with yango's assessment overall. if EU's communication is not bad, i think they are also very scary as well. NA also a competitor but at a pretty big disadvantage overall.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 19 2013 22:11 GMT
#2328
If Stanley doesn't facetank 1v2 lanes, I think TPA, I mean, SEA has a good shot at this.
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
April 19 2013 22:20 GMT
#2329
big reason why im stoked for this all stars is that a lot of them actually have the potential (or have the proved structures) of real teams. i think misaya going instead of zz1tai is fine, and probably a big net positive, because he is WE's shotcaller (i don't know iG's communication structure but their calls and composure lategame is... questionable). NA is probably the shakiest, but will be interesting to see them duke it out with the others.

SEA having a bye is also fking huge. lol
Hey! Listen!
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 19 2013 22:21 GMT
#2330
hopefully this will be a wake up call for NA for how behind they are compared to other regions.
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RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 22:34:44
April 19 2013 22:27 GMT
#2331
Or a wake up call to the rest of the world when we take first without dropping a map.

Seriously though, I'm excited for DoubleX(Xpecialift?) vs TriXiao.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
April 19 2013 22:27 GMT
#2332
On April 20 2013 06:33 Alaric wrote:
Sona has a battle cry?
(I think I already did that one.)

no, xiaoxiao does

and he also zips his pants up after every match
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 22:30:54
April 19 2013 22:30 GMT
#2333
On April 20 2013 07:27 RagequitBM wrote:
Or a wake up call to the rest of the world when we take first without dropping a map.


#yoloswaggtlnoscope4lyfemurica
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
April 19 2013 22:35 GMT
#2334
TPA vs WEiG round 2 might as well be the finals, IMO
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
April 19 2013 22:38 GMT
#2335
Wait what. Only the teams that lose in round 1 are able to get a second chance? That's interesting.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
April 19 2013 22:44 GMT
#2336
On April 20 2013 07:38 RagequitBM wrote:
Wait what. Only the teams that lose in round 1 are able to get a second chance? That's dumb as shit.


fix'd
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 22:51:05
April 19 2013 22:45 GMT
#2337
On April 20 2013 06:32 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 04:32 Mensol wrote:
Rosters of LCS All-Star tournament:

+ Show Spoiler +
Team Europe:

Gambit Gaming AlexIch - AP
fnatic sOAZ - Top
Gambit Gaming Diamond - Jungle
Gambit Gaming Edward - Support
Evil Geniuses Yellowpete - AD

Team North America:

Dignitas Scarra - AP
TeamSoloMid Dyrus - Top
Curse Saintvicious - Jungle
TeamSoloMid Xpecial - Support
CounterLogicGaming Doublelift - AD

Team Korea:

CJ Blaze Ambition - AP
NajinSworD MakNooN - Top
KTRolsterB inSec - Jungle
CJ Frost MadLife - Support
NajinSworD PraY - AD

Team China:

WorldElite Misaya - AP
Invictus Gaming PDD - Top
WorldElite Troll - Jungle
Invictus Gaming XiaoXiao - Support
WorldElite WeiXiao - AD

Team South East Asia:

Taipei Assasins Toyz - AP
Taipei Assasins Stanley - Top
Taipei Snipers OhreaL - Jungle
Taipei Snipers MistakE - Support
Taipei Assasins bebe - AD


Poll: Poll: Which Region Will Win The LCS All-Star Tournament?

Team China (17)
 
40%

Team Southeast Asia (8)
 
19%

Team North America (7)
 
17%

Team Korea (6)
 
14%

Team Europe (4)
 
10%

42 total votes

Your vote: Poll: Which Region Will Win The LCS All-Star Tournament?

(Vote): Team Europe
(Vote): Team North America
(Vote): Team Korea
(Vote): Team China
(Vote): Team Southeast Asia



oh i found bracket on reddit:

[image loading]


This bracket looks funny. But it's basically this:

Normally a 5-team single-elimination tournament would have the structure of a 8-team single-elimination tournament with 3 of the teams getting byes first round. The only thing is that the way they're choosing the 3 teams to receive byes is a bit weird. The 3 teams to receive byes are: (1) SEA, (2) Winner of NA vs China, (3) Winner of EU vs KR.

So in essence, SEA is getting "half a bye" over the other teams, since they don't have to play for it. Well, I am 90% sure china is going to win, so it's probably not even a half a bye advantage. This system is probably a bit more fair than just giving three teams byes arbitrarily.

Anyway, the way I see this bracket is: (1) it's really a single-elimination tournament, don't let the "loser's bracket" fool you; (2) The first round (NA vs China, EU vs KR) is really a seeding round to see who gets the byes.


tl;dr: Mentally erase matches 1 & 2. Notice how the leftover bracket looks like a single-elimination bracket. Matches 1 & 2 are solely there to decide which teams get screwed over by the asymmetric bracket.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 19 2013 22:54 GMT
#2338
the pseudo loser bracket is rigged in so that EU/NA actually do have one member in the semis guaranteed.

riot4foreigners4lyfe
A backwards poet writes inverse.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 19 2013 22:59 GMT
#2339
China is going to smash so hard lol
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 23:10:52
April 19 2013 23:00 GMT
#2340
i wonder who will be EU's coach.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
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