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danana
Profile Joined March 2011
United States321 Posts
January 07 2013 09:12 GMT
#6381
Has anyone had a bug where they can't use flask? I just had a game like that. tried clicking it, moving it to different slots, made sure i was missing both hp and mana, but nothing I did would consume a charge. really frustrating to have a flask sitting in my inventory doing absolutely nothing when it could have gotten me kills and saved my life a few times...
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 07 2013 09:16 GMT
#6382
While I personally don't feel what you did is banworthy, I also think that the ban isn't surprising given past precedent. Some of these particular reports are kind of lol-worthy, but if you're a repeat offender, you don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Moderator
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 09:19:54
January 07 2013 09:18 GMT
#6383
On January 07 2013 18:01 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 16:22 mr_tolkien wrote:
OK, I got banned again, for one week, and I call bullshit :
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/625138/#nogo

In the first game, we were 4v5, the opposing team had an early DC, and indeed, I wanted us to surrender out of politeness, because they were blatantly out playing us. The score was widely in their favor and we ALL failed in my team, so I felt winning it was totally unfair and just asked my team if we could surrender. I didn't feed, neither did I troll.
I guess not being a complete douchebag is a bannable offense now...

You wanted to surrender because you were mad at your team.
You were a complete douchebag.
You will get banned again because you dont even understand why you got banned.

I wasn't mad at my team, I just felt like the 4 other players played leaps and bounds better and were denied a deserved victory. I was even streaming during that game ffs, you can watch it, they played very well, I wasn't mad at anybody, and I would have preferred a lose than an undeserved win.

But yeah I guess that makes me a "complete douchebag".
The legend of Darien lives on
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 07 2013 09:19 GMT
#6384
On January 07 2013 18:10 UniversalSnip wrote:
I've never played with you in game so perhaps you're not a borderline troll like here but if not the irony is just fucking killing me

I've flamed my fair share of people. I won't deny it. But a lot of it never revolved around other people playing bad and me being frustrated and taking it out on them. Rather I enjoy calling people out who enjoy making excuses for their own poor play.

At the end of the day, you've gotta realize that you yourself aren't gonna play perfectly every game. Blaming other people is just an easy way out and people have got to realize that it does nothing besides make you feel a little better while making someone else feel a lot worse.

Everyone loves talking about "ELO Hell" and "My teammates are dragging me down" instead of "I need to improve my mechanics, I need to improve my map awareness". Instead of stuff like "OMFG MID WHY DIDNT U CALL MIA?", people can just look to improve their awareness by recognizing that enemy mid is missing and that you might need to play safer. It's why every time I look at the QQ thread, I think it's pretty pathetic how everyone is just crying half the time about how bad their teammates are and shit like that. The only things that I feel are warranted are simply games where your team DC'd. That's definitely frustrating and there's really nothing you can do about it.

Get over it, it's a team game. You're gonna win some, you're gonna lose some. But take responsibility, maintain higher accountability. Stop crying about shit all the time and just learn to improve. Shit's annoying and I hate it.
God Bless
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 07 2013 09:22 GMT
#6385
On January 07 2013 18:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 18:01 Redox wrote:
On January 07 2013 16:22 mr_tolkien wrote:
OK, I got banned again, for one week, and I call bullshit :
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/625138/#nogo

In the first game, we were 4v5, the opposing team had an early DC, and indeed, I wanted us to surrender out of politeness, because they were blatantly out playing us. The score was widely in their favor and we ALL failed in my team, so I felt winning it was totally unfair and just asked my team if we could surrender. I didn't feed, neither did I troll.
I guess not being a complete douchebag is a bannable offense now...

You wanted to surrender because you were mad at your team.
You were a complete douchebag.
You will get banned again because you dont even understand why you got banned.

I wasn't mad at my team, I just felt like the 4 other players played leaps and bounds better and were denied a deserved victory. I was even streaming during that game ffs, you can watch it, they played very well, I wasn't mad at anybody, and I would have preferred a lose than an undeserved win.

But yeah I guess that makes me a "complete douchebag".

Please stop looking for excuses and just admit that you're a douchebag. I'm a douchebag and I admit it. Can you? Move along and learn from this shit please. Come back and talk to me when you're actually wrongly being accused. But clearly since you already have multiple bans, you have 0 credibility. Why should I believe you when you're already a convicted felon?
God Bless
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 09:23:42
January 07 2013 09:22 GMT
#6386
This forum is either full of hypocrite or full of pure and fresh young souls because aside from two or three guys I know on the game, everybody is a douchebag at one point in this game. The only thing that save me is that I whine on skype so Riot don t know it.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 07 2013 09:25 GMT
#6387
On January 07 2013 18:22 WhiteDog wrote:
This forum is either full of hypocrite or full of pure and fresh young souls because aside from two or three guys I know on the game, everybody is a douchebag at one point in this game. The only thing that save me is that I whine on skype so Riot don t know it.

rofl this actually helps a lot
Moderator
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 09:32:41
January 07 2013 09:28 GMT
#6388
On January 07 2013 18:22 WhiteDog wrote:
This forum is either full of hypocrite or full of pure and fresh young souls because aside from two or three guys I know on the game, everybody is a douchebag at one point in this game. The only thing that save me is that I whine on skype so Riot don t know it.

I can't tell if Roffles is serious. I don't flame my team or team-mates out of nowhere. I didn't blame 0/11/1 Cho in the game I was reported. I don't go out of my way to blame people when they try their best and aren't whiny bitches. I've been the first one to always advocate that you have to look at your own play to improve, and that even won games can be full of mistakes. And that the game is not about the team you get, but about the plays you make.

LoL is full of judgmental people who like to think higher of themselves and feel a need to "educate" a community which in fact shares the same values... But who just had different games.
I never said I was a saint. I just said this is pure bulshit to ban a player based on such acts. If they do this, they might as well ban the full server.

EDIT and PS :
On January 07 2013 18:22 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 18:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 07 2013 18:01 Redox wrote:
On January 07 2013 16:22 mr_tolkien wrote:
OK, I got banned again, for one week, and I call bullshit :
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/625138/#nogo

In the first game, we were 4v5, the opposing team had an early DC, and indeed, I wanted us to surrender out of politeness, because they were blatantly out playing us. The score was widely in their favor and we ALL failed in my team, so I felt winning it was totally unfair and just asked my team if we could surrender. I didn't feed, neither did I troll.
I guess not being a complete douchebag is a bannable offense now...

You wanted to surrender because you were mad at your team.
You were a complete douchebag.
You will get banned again because you dont even understand why you got banned.

I wasn't mad at my team, I just felt like the 4 other players played leaps and bounds better and were denied a deserved victory. I was even streaming during that game ffs, you can watch it, they played very well, I wasn't mad at anybody, and I would have preferred a lose than an undeserved win.

But yeah I guess that makes me a "complete douchebag".

Please stop looking for excuses and just admit that you're a douchebag.

So for you being a good sport is being a douchebag ? Sorry that I actually want to play quality games and have deserved wins... In the game, only ONE guy reported me (way more would have if I was trolling ig) and the whole game ambiance was very friendly.
The legend of Darien lives on
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 07 2013 09:28 GMT
#6389
Good guy Chauster gunna drive Doublelift to get his wisdom teeth removed. Teh interesting things you randomly learn while watching streams. lol.
liftlift > tsm
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
January 07 2013 09:29 GMT
#6390
On January 07 2013 18:25 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 18:22 WhiteDog wrote:
This forum is either full of hypocrite or full of pure and fresh young souls because aside from two or three guys I know on the game, everybody is a douchebag at one point in this game. The only thing that save me is that I whine on skype so Riot don t know it.

rofl this actually helps a lot

Yes this and always disable the all chat. It s my two keys to never be banned, i give them for free because I love you all TLers!
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 09:37:05
January 07 2013 09:36 GMT
#6391
You're a douchebag towards your team. Just read the fucking chat. Look at that case #1. What the fuck is that. You're playing a 5v4 and yes while your heart might be in the right place, you are one dumb son of a bitch.

Your team is still playing and you're basically that piece of shit on the team who continuously tries to surrender a winnable game and just bitches and moans all game because your team won't surrender. Yes, enemy team might have played better, but damn it was a 5v4 for fucking christ sake. Your team doesn't want to surrender. Fucking deal with it and stop trying to ruin the game for your own team.

You're already on a short leash, so why do you do shit like this still?
God Bless
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
January 07 2013 09:36 GMT
#6392
what supp do u pick to kill with? supp gp is pretty good vs taric imo
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 10:13:37
January 07 2013 09:39 GMT
#6393
On January 07 2013 18:28 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 18:22 WhiteDog wrote:
This forum is either full of hypocrite or full of pure and fresh young souls because aside from two or three guys I know on the game, everybody is a douchebag at one point in this game. The only thing that save me is that I whine on skype so Riot don t know it.

I can't tell if Roffles is serious. I don't flame my team or team-mates. I didn't blame 0/11/1 Cho in the game I was reported. I don't go out of my way to blame people when they try their best and aren't whiny bitches. I've been the first one to always advocate that you have to look at your own play to improve, and that even won games can be full of mistakes. And that the game is not about the team you get, but about the plays you make.

LoL is full of judgmental people who like to think higher of themselves and feel a need to "educate" a community which in fact shares the same values... But who just had different games.
I never said I was a saint. I just said this is pure bulshit to ban a player based on such acts. If they do this, they might as well ban the full server.

To be fair you don't have to blame to be a d-bag. There are various passiv agressiv ways like giving tips to a guy who just died (this makes me lose hair everytime) or asking for surrender before anything is settled.
I'm not judging you, everybody is a badguy in this game and in a way your team mate, forcing you to play a dead game and then reporting you as a scape goat for his frustration, was also a douche and that is all because LOL one of the most frustrating game ever. But you should agree with Roffles when he says that you should acknowledge it, embrace the darkside.

Just saying, I would have so insulted that Vayne in game 2.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 07 2013 09:47 GMT
#6394
anyone got the runes/masteries saint uses to jungle ezreal?

not sure which rune page he's using, was thinking a mix of ad/armpen but as for masteries 21/9/0 ?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
January 07 2013 09:53 GMT
#6395
On January 07 2013 18:47 arb wrote:
anyone got the runes/masteries saint uses to jungle ezreal?

not sure which rune page he's using, was thinking a mix of ad/armpen but as for masteries 21/9/0 ?

More like 14/13/3 or spmething like that.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 07 2013 09:55 GMT
#6396
On January 07 2013 18:12 danana wrote:
Has anyone had a bug where they can't use flask? I just had a game like that. tried clicking it, moving it to different slots, made sure i was missing both hp and mana, but nothing I did would consume a charge. really frustrating to have a flask sitting in my inventory doing absolutely nothing when it could have gotten me kills and saved my life a few times...

I think there's a thing where you can't use flask while an hp or mana pot is active. Maybe you tried to use it after you used a pot?
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 07 2013 09:58 GMT
#6397
I doubt it's much different from from a normal AD page.

I didn't think the reports were that bad. Trying to surrender a 5v4 is pretty stupid though, I had that happen to me a few weeks ago when my top laner refused to play because he thought the enemy team deserved a 4v4, which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard and dragged out a 20min win into an hour.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 10:00:45
January 07 2013 10:00 GMT
#6398
On January 07 2013 18:58 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I doubt it's much different from from a normal AD page.

I didn't think the reports were that bad. Trying to surrender a 5v4 is pretty stupid though, I had that happen to me a few weeks ago when my top laner refused to play because he thought the enemy team deserved a 4v4, which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard and dragged out a 20min win into an hour.

Only ad page that i could see using(thats on the account he's currently playing it on) is
AD Quint
Armpen Red
Armor Yellow
Mr/L Blue

someone said 14/13/3 masteries maybe..
dunno which ones those would be
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
January 07 2013 10:48 GMT
#6399
ryze is so dumb right now, if ur team is derping and gives him time to farm,some kills he will just 1v5 eventually ....
bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
January 07 2013 11:02 GMT
#6400
On January 07 2013 18:28 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 18:22 WhiteDog wrote:
This forum is either full of hypocrite or full of pure and fresh young souls because aside from two or three guys I know on the game, everybody is a douchebag at one point in this game. The only thing that save me is that I whine on skype so Riot don t know it.

I can't tell if Roffles is serious. I don't flame my team or team-mates out of nowhere. I didn't blame 0/11/1 Cho in the game I was reported. I don't go out of my way to blame people when they try their best and aren't whiny bitches. I've been the first one to always advocate that you have to look at your own play to improve, and that even won games can be full of mistakes. And that the game is not about the team you get, but about the plays you make.

LoL is full of judgmental people who like to think higher of themselves and feel a need to "educate" a community which in fact shares the same values... But who just had different games.
I never said I was a saint. I just said this is pure bulshit to ban a player based on such acts. If they do this, they might as well ban the full server.

EDIT and PS :
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 18:22 Roffles wrote:
On January 07 2013 18:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 07 2013 18:01 Redox wrote:
On January 07 2013 16:22 mr_tolkien wrote:
OK, I got banned again, for one week, and I call bullshit :
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/en/case/625138/#nogo

In the first game, we were 4v5, the opposing team had an early DC, and indeed, I wanted us to surrender out of politeness, because they were blatantly out playing us. The score was widely in their favor and we ALL failed in my team, so I felt winning it was totally unfair and just asked my team if we could surrender. I didn't feed, neither did I troll.
I guess not being a complete douchebag is a bannable offense now...

You wanted to surrender because you were mad at your team.
You were a complete douchebag.
You will get banned again because you dont even understand why you got banned.

I wasn't mad at my team, I just felt like the 4 other players played leaps and bounds better and were denied a deserved victory. I was even streaming during that game ffs, you can watch it, they played very well, I wasn't mad at anybody, and I would have preferred a lose than an undeserved win.

But yeah I guess that makes me a "complete douchebag".

Please stop looking for excuses and just admit that you're a douchebag.

So for you being a good sport is being a douchebag ? Sorry that I actually want to play quality games and have deserved wins... In the game, only ONE guy reported me (way more would have if I was trolling ig) and the whole game ambiance was very friendly.


Trying to demoralize your team into surrendering just because you feel that the other team "deserves" a win is NOT being a good sport. It's being a bad sport.

Sure, saying "gg, too bad about the disconnect, you were playing better" is being a good sport. Acting the way you did in game 1 is not.
There's nothing wrong with asking for a surrender. Hell, call a vote every two minutes if you want. But if they vote no, that's how it is, and you have no authority -- moral or otherwise -- that would justify spouting things like
> I'm with 4 butthurt guys who won't surrender
or
> wb, we tried hard to throw !
the entire time.

Going by the chat, you weren't trying to win. That isn't "being a good sport". Perhaps you wanted to lose ELO, but it's not fine to try throwing -- and your teammates clearly didn't feel the way you did. Your obligation lies with your team, not your arbitrary sense of who "deserves" the win.

I'd say that it's also ridiculous to argue that they "deserved" the win after the DC (otherwise I'd just disconnect as soon as our team is ahead!), but that's entirely irrelevant to whether your behavior was acceptable or not. If they're better they'll gain back the ELO; either way, it's not your job to assign ELO to opponents as you see fit at the cost of your teammates. Imagine if everyone acted like that if they felt like they were outplayed.



Finally, yeah, everyone has bad games occasionally. Nobody's perfect, everyone has more or less whiny games.
But you don't get sent to the Tribunal for one bad game or just a handful of reports. If this happens so often that you've been banned repeatedly (and it isn't the same handful of people reporting you every time), clearly your behavior is inappropriate.
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