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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 19:11:01
October 27 2012 19:08 GMT
#1501
On October 28 2012 03:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 03:51 TheYango wrote:
On October 27 2012 22:08 Celial wrote:
Btw I read that SV is no longer shot caller for Crs, Elementz is... true?

I'm not sure how this will work out. I can sort of see why, as I think Saint has a poor mindset for a captain--but I don't think he has a good one for a follower either.

Trying to copy TPA's style, of support is shot caller?
Saint V should be shot caller for midgame, and maybe hand it off to Elementz in lategame. Jungle based midgame plays are really strong, so it would make sense to have st.v be midgame shot caller, and nyjacky is pretty responsive to plays made outside of midlane. I just feel that in their scrims that saint v has made some pretty bad calls in lategame.

I don't think there's anything about one role being best for making calls. Being a captain on the team requires a certain mindset and attitude (coupled with of course sound decision making) that are suitable for leading the team. None of those require that the player play support (though it's more likely to find players with that selfless attitude on the support role simply by nature of the role--that doesn't exclude players with the correct attitude from playing other roles).

Saint has the experience and knowledge to be a good captain, but he doesn't have the mindset. He's too quick to blame people, and oftentimes his decision-making is somewhat selfish--he doesn't trust his teammates enough (something no doubt borne out of solo queue).

Consider when he was on CLG and he would complain that Jiji was not active enough from mid and would not gank enough. We now know in retrospect that a fairly passive, conservative teamfight-oriented mid player is a totally sustainable playstyle provided the team is able to make the right picks to support such a style. The key is also having an active jungler who is able to create an expanded presence when you have a more passive mid--which, well, doesn't describe Saint given that Saint himself is a fairly farmy jungler. The thing is, it was just as much Saint's problem as Jiji's--it was a TEAM problem. Saint didn't approach the issue rationally and with a team mindset, and was too quick to pass off the issue's as just Jiji's.
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StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
October 27 2012 19:09 GMT
#1502
On October 28 2012 03:59 HazMat wrote:
Where did you guys read that Elementz will be the shot caller? Because, afaik, he's getting benched.


really? lol
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
October 27 2012 19:09 GMT
#1503
Just bought Lulu since I've decided for S3 I'm exclusively playing support and wanted to have all of them. When do you pick Lulu and when you don't?
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
October 27 2012 19:24 GMT
#1504
On October 28 2012 03:59 HazMat wrote:
Where did you guys read that Elementz will be the shot caller? Because, afaik, he's getting benched.


Read it somewhere in comments on reddit. Posted here to ask if it's true. I mean I can understand that they don't want SV to call anymore, but I really don't know who else could on that team.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
October 27 2012 19:26 GMT
#1505
On October 28 2012 04:09 Zhiroo wrote:
Just bought Lulu since I've decided for S3 I'm exclusively playing support and wanted to have all of them. When do you pick Lulu and when you don't?


I can see her working in a dive comp. Slow to prevent them from getting to tower, shield for tanking 1-2 hits, ult for actual diving. Oh and movement speed to get in and out.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
October 27 2012 19:35 GMT
#1506
Any opinions on syndra post-buff? I've only played a few games with her, but she seems pretty nice now, really safe laning and actually good damage with the ridiculously low cooldown on Q (not that the buffs changed that).
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 27 2012 19:41 GMT
#1507
who the fuck is team pulse? tsm in danger of getting eliminated in their own tournament by a noname team
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 27 2012 19:47 GMT
#1508
SneakyCastro playing really wall holy shit.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 27 2012 19:47 GMT
#1509
On October 28 2012 04:00 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 03:59 HazMat wrote:
Where did you guys read that Elementz will be the shot caller? Because, afaik, he's getting benched.

Is this a better bench elementz joke or is it something you actually read?

www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
October 27 2012 19:49 GMT
#1510
Lulu/Ryze is a pretty broken combo. Otherwise she generally just works best when you have squishies in the front-line like Jax/Kat/Diana/Fiora
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
fishinguy
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation798 Posts
October 27 2012 20:00 GMT
#1511
On October 28 2012 04:49 TheLink wrote:
Lulu/Ryze is a pretty broken combo. Otherwise she generally just works best when you have squishies in the front-line like Jax/Kat/Diana/Fiora


Jax is definitely not squishy, E and R all day. Diana isn't squishy either, her shield and pull is pretty strong.
qanik
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1899 Posts
October 27 2012 20:06 GMT
#1512
Is it just me or is wingsofdeath really annoying? I mean the things he says are really "mundane", for lack of a better word, and he just keeps talking and talking and not knowing he is boring the hell out of Aphromoo.
Best Teemo World
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 27 2012 20:09 GMT
#1513
On October 28 2012 05:06 qanik wrote:
Is it just me or is wingsofdeath really annoying? I mean the things he says are really "mundane", for lack of a better word, and he just keeps talking and talking and not knowing he is boring the hell out of Aphromoo.

Maybe he'd be more interesting if he stopped condescending to muffinqt.
Glorious SEA doto
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 27 2012 20:11 GMT
#1514
Experimental stream. No idea how it will turn out.

http://www.twitch.tv/sufficiency2

But come watch me sucking and feeding in normal draft if you wish.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
October 27 2012 20:16 GMT
#1515
^ sick quality dood :p
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 27 2012 20:17 GMT
#1516
TSM playing back in game 2... dat ezreal for Pulse is playing really well though
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
October 27 2012 20:20 GMT
#1517
On October 28 2012 05:06 qanik wrote:
Is it just me or is wingsofdeath really annoying? I mean the things he says are really "mundane", for lack of a better word, and he just keeps talking and talking and not knowing he is boring the hell out of Aphromoo.



well he keeps doing Q&A with his viewers, he should probably just mute his mic on vent/skype/ts
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 20:24:08
October 27 2012 20:20 GMT
#1518
On October 28 2012 05:11 Sufficiency wrote:
Experimental stream. No idea how it will turn out.

http://www.twitch.tv/sufficiency2

But come watch me sucking and feeding in normal draft if you wish.

You should turn the in-game audio down. The champs are louder than you, but all in all the sound quality is pretty good. But the video quality takes away a bit.
"My spoon is too big."
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
October 27 2012 20:24 GMT
#1519
On October 28 2012 05:06 qanik wrote:
Is it just me or is wingsofdeath really annoying? I mean the things he says are really "mundane", for lack of a better word, and he just keeps talking and talking and not knowing he is boring the hell out of Aphromoo.


Its just you.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 27 2012 20:37 GMT
#1520
On October 28 2012 05:20 Antyee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 05:11 Sufficiency wrote:
Experimental stream. No idea how it will turn out.

http://www.twitch.tv/sufficiency2

But come watch me sucking and feeding in normal draft if you wish.

You should turn the in-game audio down. The champs are louder than you, but all in all the sound quality is pretty good. But the video quality takes away a bit.


The video quality probably cannot be helped. My upload bandwidth is really, really low. Streaming at 480p is probably the limit unless I change ISP.

I will change my volume; thanks for the suggestion.

Terrible game btw. I just didn't feel like playing after Elise ragequitted. Throw ftw.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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