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Leonite7
Profile Joined July 2011
Ireland921 Posts
November 04 2012 19:16 GMT
#4001
Dammit. I was getting my ass handed to me in X-COM and now this is happening.
napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
November 04 2012 19:20 GMT
#4002
The thereisnourflevel thingy aint working.
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
November 04 2012 19:23 GMT
#4003
On November 05 2012 03:10 Simberto wrote:
Clarity: Grants 0.065 per level
Replenishment: Grants 0.41

6th grade maths to the rescue:

They start teaching that in 3rd grade these days.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Leonite7
Profile Joined July 2011
Ireland921 Posts
November 04 2012 19:38 GMT
#4004
EUW is back for me.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 19:40:13
November 04 2012 19:40 GMT
#4005
On November 05 2012 03:15 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 03:00 MooMooMugi wrote:
Flat mana regen is better for levels 1-9 I believe then the per level mana regen seals start beating them

They break even at level 7.

Seal 0.065 / level vs. 0.41 (Level 6.3 breakeven point. Less at 6, more at 7.)
Glyph 0.055 / level vs. 0.31 (level 5.6 breakeven point.)

Thing is, mana regen is one of the few things where this is worthwhile tradeoff to go per level. Most characters aren't going to burn through all their mana pre-6, and if you're trying to avoid buying a mana item through your runes, the per levels are going to be more effective. Either glyphs or seals can work well for this.


I think it's situational. A lot of champions will never be able to burn through all their mana at later levels (e.g. Ahri, Diana). The ones that do (e.g. Karthus, Swain, Kog'Maw) need more than just scaling mana regen.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
November 04 2012 19:52 GMT
#4006
You can also leverage a strong early advantage out of the first mid phase with the extra regen. I recently swapped from per level to flat and I've come to like it.
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ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
November 04 2012 20:06 GMT
#4007
I got something on my mind... out of the box.

Isnt it genius to firstbuy a Oracle as support and a ward? You get so much control on the map.

HIGH RISK/ HIGH REWARD
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 04 2012 20:09 GMT
#4008
I think it's too early to be worth it, esp. since with only one ward you'll still be easy to gank, and you won't be able to roam at the start anyway.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
November 04 2012 20:14 GMT
#4009
On November 05 2012 05:09 Alaric wrote:
I think it's too early to be worth it, esp. since with only one ward you'll still be easy to gank, and you won't be able to roam at the start anyway.


But you will have ward control at bottom. So you can give good ganks!
WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 20:28:45
November 04 2012 20:25 GMT
#4010
On November 05 2012 05:06 ExoFun wrote:
I got something on my mind... out of the box.

Isnt it genius to firstbuy a Oracle as support and a ward? You get so much control on the map.

HIGH RISK/ HIGH REWARD

You get early ganked/allin and you'll end up in a worst spot than before

prolly you'll get mana starved early on sadly
Barackopala
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 04 2012 20:26 GMT
#4011
On November 05 2012 05:06 ExoFun wrote:
I got something on my mind... out of the box.

Isnt it genius to firstbuy a Oracle as support and a ward? You get so much control on the map.

HIGH RISK/ HIGH REWARD


I've tried this. It's alright, but the lack of mana becomes a real issue for some supports. If the other bot lane is good, they'll take advantage of you not being able to cast spells very much. Starting 1 pink/faerie/2green could do just as well if you're looking for a gank window-- coordinate with the jungler, pink ward a minute before he comes and take out their ward.
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
November 04 2012 20:29 GMT
#4012
On November 05 2012 04:52 Craton wrote:
You can also leverage a strong early advantage out of the first mid phase with the extra regen. I recently swapped from per level to flat and I've come to like it.

Also most people get a Chalice or Dorans which means the extra regen from per/lvl becomes less influential. Flat gives you a greater percentage increase in mana regen for early laning, which is when runes matter most (before first back to buy).
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 20:31:18
November 04 2012 20:31 GMT
#4013
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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
November 04 2012 20:37 GMT
#4014
Anyone have trouble trading in ranked queue? Ended up with gp/10 Ezreal with 51 ad level 1 with a support Taric with 80 ad.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 04 2012 20:41 GMT
#4015
Personally, I use flat mana regen runes because by the time I'm level 6-7 I'll usually have a chalice/dorans/blue buff to take care of my mana regen needs

Assuming you spend the same amount of time at every level and spending all of your time at less than full mana, it will take until about level 13 for scaling mana regen runes to have given you the same amount of extra mana as the flat ones.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
November 04 2012 21:16 GMT
#4016
On November 05 2012 05:06 ExoFun wrote:
I got something on my mind... out of the box.

Isnt it genius to firstbuy a Oracle as support and a ward? You get so much control on the map.

HIGH RISK/ HIGH REWARD

If by genius you mean lose your lane far more often than win it, then sure.
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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 04 2012 21:47 GMT
#4017
Not to mention you just painted a big bullseye on your forehead with that move.
Cackle™
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 04 2012 21:47 GMT
#4018
am i the only one who cant find a game and is stuck in queue?
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 04 2012 21:56 GMT
#4019
it can be good but not like that. if you have oracles you need boots 1 at the least. Seen taric/blitz go boots and a ward and then on next buy get oracles and kill all wards since they are easy lanes to gank for. Buying oracles with no boots is asinine.
I come in for the scraps
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 04 2012 21:59 GMT
#4020
On November 05 2012 06:47 AsnSensation wrote:
am i the only one who cant find a game and is stuck in queue?

Lolking says EUW is down. And our premade couldn't launch because one of us was "already in a game".
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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