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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 12 2012 18:52 GMT
#3141
On October 13 2012 00:51 Beyonder wrote:
I think I'd fight The Rain Man if I could fight any LoL 'pro' IRL.

WHO'S WITH ME


Cruzer.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
October 12 2012 19:17 GMT
#3142
On October 13 2012 03:16 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 03:02 barbsq wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:29 Terranasaur wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:06 barbsq wrote:
dafk

m-rod don't need no remake, he da buffest champ eva. Huehuehue all day and dont give a fuck

edit: in other news, i was forced to go mid for the first time ever in solo queue. needless to say, we lost pretty miserably, but i'm shocked that I was ever put into that position. So should I bother learning a mid champ or hope it's a 1/1000000 kind of thing.



I don't always play Mid, but when I do, I play Mantheon.



oh wow, I can't believe I didn't think of mantheon. We even had singed top and corki bot, real derp.



Ya. He actually fits in to quite a few team comps pretty well and absolutely dunks on a lot of mids. The only AP I like to play is TF, and I'm really not very good with him. I'm basically auto-lose on everyone else though so I usually take my chances with Mantheon.

I usually make this pretty clear in champ select though, so there is almost always someone willing to take mid.

U MID OR I FEEEEEEED



Just based on theplayerbase of LoL you're eventually going to run into that premade 4 in normals who are assholes and force the 5th player to fill in the role they don't have except for some reason this role is mid
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
October 12 2012 19:22 GMT
#3143
On October 13 2012 04:17 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 03:16 Terranasaur wrote:
On October 13 2012 03:02 barbsq wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:29 Terranasaur wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:06 barbsq wrote:
dafk

m-rod don't need no remake, he da buffest champ eva. Huehuehue all day and dont give a fuck

edit: in other news, i was forced to go mid for the first time ever in solo queue. needless to say, we lost pretty miserably, but i'm shocked that I was ever put into that position. So should I bother learning a mid champ or hope it's a 1/1000000 kind of thing.



I don't always play Mid, but when I do, I play Mantheon.



oh wow, I can't believe I didn't think of mantheon. We even had singed top and corki bot, real derp.



Ya. He actually fits in to quite a few team comps pretty well and absolutely dunks on a lot of mids. The only AP I like to play is TF, and I'm really not very good with him. I'm basically auto-lose on everyone else though so I usually take my chances with Mantheon.

I usually make this pretty clear in champ select though, so there is almost always someone willing to take mid.

U MID OR I FEEEEEEED



Just based on theplayerbase of LoL you're eventually going to run into that premade 4 in normals who are assholes and force the 5th player to fill in the role they don't have except for some reason this role is mid

I'm pretty sure if it were normals nobody would give a fuck and play some sick apmid volibear.
boomer hands
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
October 12 2012 19:28 GMT
#3144
On October 13 2012 04:22 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 04:17 thenexusp wrote:
On October 13 2012 03:16 Terranasaur wrote:
On October 13 2012 03:02 barbsq wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:29 Terranasaur wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:06 barbsq wrote:
dafk

m-rod don't need no remake, he da buffest champ eva. Huehuehue all day and dont give a fuck

edit: in other news, i was forced to go mid for the first time ever in solo queue. needless to say, we lost pretty miserably, but i'm shocked that I was ever put into that position. So should I bother learning a mid champ or hope it's a 1/1000000 kind of thing.



I don't always play Mid, but when I do, I play Mantheon.



oh wow, I can't believe I didn't think of mantheon. We even had singed top and corki bot, real derp.



Ya. He actually fits in to quite a few team comps pretty well and absolutely dunks on a lot of mids. The only AP I like to play is TF, and I'm really not very good with him. I'm basically auto-lose on everyone else though so I usually take my chances with Mantheon.

I usually make this pretty clear in champ select though, so there is almost always someone willing to take mid.

U MID OR I FEEEEEEED



Just based on theplayerbase of LoL you're eventually going to run into that premade 4 in normals who are assholes and force the 5th player to fill in the role they don't have except for some reason this role is mid

I'm pretty sure if it were normals nobody would give a fuck and play some sick apmid volibear.

I did say they were the asshole type of premade 4s

Although you probably aren't going to get a good experience no matter what
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 12 2012 19:48 GMT
#3145
rainman seems like he'd just roll over in a fight, definitely cruzer, or dan dinh but i'd get stomped
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25988 Posts
October 12 2012 19:56 GMT
#3146
On October 13 2012 02:06 barbsq wrote:
dafk

m-rod don't need no remake, he da buffest champ eva. Huehuehue all day and dont give a fuck

edit: in other news, i was forced to go mid for the first time ever in solo queue. needless to say, we lost pretty miserably, but i'm shocked that I was ever put into that position. So should I bother learning a mid champ or hope it's a 1/1000000 kind of thing.

I was the same. So I learned AP Sion because I knew him from top. He was okay and I could hold my own but he's not the greatest.

Then I learned Veigar. He's super fun.

I recently learned Cho because he can go top, mid and jungle. He's fun

Or you could learn Ahri because she's really easy to learn.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 20:00:53
October 12 2012 19:59 GMT
#3147
On October 13 2012 04:56 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 02:06 barbsq wrote:
dafk

m-rod don't need no remake, he da buffest champ eva. Huehuehue all day and dont give a fuck

edit: in other news, i was forced to go mid for the first time ever in solo queue. needless to say, we lost pretty miserably, but i'm shocked that I was ever put into that position. So should I bother learning a mid champ or hope it's a 1/1000000 kind of thing.

I was the same. So I learned AP Sion because I knew him from top. He was okay and I could hold my own but he's not the greatest.

Then I learned Veigar. He's super fun.

I recently learned Cho because he can go top, mid and jungle. He's fun

Or you could learn Ahri because she's really easy to learn.


go fiddle, play any role you want and kill shit

okay, ad fiddle kind of troll but its semi viable amirite?

there's a lot of champs that do well in 4 roles, but just not adc :/
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
October 12 2012 20:00 GMT
#3148
On October 13 2012 04:59 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 04:56 Chill wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:06 barbsq wrote:
dafk

m-rod don't need no remake, he da buffest champ eva. Huehuehue all day and dont give a fuck

edit: in other news, i was forced to go mid for the first time ever in solo queue. needless to say, we lost pretty miserably, but i'm shocked that I was ever put into that position. So should I bother learning a mid champ or hope it's a 1/1000000 kind of thing.

I was the same. So I learned AP Sion because I knew him from top. He was okay and I could hold my own but he's not the greatest.

Then I learned Veigar. He's super fun.

I recently learned Cho because he can go top, mid and jungle. He's fun

Or you could learn Ahri because she's really easy to learn.


go fiddle, play any role you want and kill shit

okay, ad fiddle kind of troll but its semi viable amirite?

GP is legit in every role
boomer hands
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 20:05:47
October 12 2012 20:04 GMT
#3149
I feel like if I played gp enough that I could reliably get away with offense masteries he'd be king top. defense masteries +points in W makes him pretty much indestructible in lane and you get to just farm and use your ult to provide map presence, sorta like a karthus, but defense noticably nerfs his late game so you don't get that sense of scaling towards infinity.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
October 12 2012 20:12 GMT
#3150
On October 13 2012 05:00 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 04:59 ticklishmusic wrote:
On October 13 2012 04:56 Chill wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:06 barbsq wrote:
dafk

m-rod don't need no remake, he da buffest champ eva. Huehuehue all day and dont give a fuck

edit: in other news, i was forced to go mid for the first time ever in solo queue. needless to say, we lost pretty miserably, but i'm shocked that I was ever put into that position. So should I bother learning a mid champ or hope it's a 1/1000000 kind of thing.

I was the same. So I learned AP Sion because I knew him from top. He was okay and I could hold my own but he's not the greatest.

Then I learned Veigar. He's super fun.

I recently learned Cho because he can go top, mid and jungle. He's fun

Or you could learn Ahri because she's really easy to learn.


go fiddle, play any role you want and kill shit

okay, ad fiddle kind of troll but its semi viable amirite?

GP is legit in every role


Kayle too. (Top obviously, jungle is pretty good, mid to counterpick something like morde, support cause riot wants her to be a support, ADC because E)
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
October 12 2012 20:19 GMT
#3151
Jayce can play every role in the game. He's a great mid, great top, great support, great adc, great jungle.
bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 20:22:18
October 12 2012 20:21 GMT
#3152
On October 13 2012 05:04 UniversalSnip wrote:
I feel like if I played gp enough that I could reliably get away with offense masteries he'd be king top. defense masteries +points in W makes him pretty much indestructible in lane and you get to just farm and use your ult to provide map presence, sorta like a karthus, but defense noticably nerfs his late game so you don't get that sense of scaling towards infinity.


But is he actually /really good/ against any common top laner anymore?

I remember critplank GP being completely retarded to play against when I started playing LoL. I recently bought him, and I've found him to be very mediocre in lane; parley didn't hit anywhere as hard as I remembered from the old days.

He's really strong once farmed, but that's true of many others who seem to have a stronger lane presence (e.g. Jax). Maybe I was playing too passive, though.


Edit: I wouldn't call Jayce a great jungler, AD carry, or support. He can do all of these and he's not troll-pick level, but I don't think he's very good (let alone great) as any of those.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11634 Posts
October 12 2012 20:21 GMT
#3153
He is also a great ban.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 12 2012 20:30 GMT
#3154
Riot HQ is so nice. :O
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 12 2012 20:33 GMT
#3155
On October 13 2012 05:21 bmn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 05:04 UniversalSnip wrote:
I feel like if I played gp enough that I could reliably get away with offense masteries he'd be king top. defense masteries +points in W makes him pretty much indestructible in lane and you get to just farm and use your ult to provide map presence, sorta like a karthus, but defense noticably nerfs his late game so you don't get that sense of scaling towards infinity.


But is he actually /really good/ against any common top laner anymore?


Ah, no, of course not. Although his early levels are actually crazy. If they don't have defense masteries, especially, your passive is pretty unfair. The draw with him is that he has really powerful healing, a global, and extremely strong scaling, so basically you have a hero who can afk farm while still helping his team and benefits from doing so extremely well. synergistic
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
October 12 2012 20:56 GMT
#3156
Why dont we see more annie. From my experience she does great against the common mids like eve, kat, and ahri
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
October 12 2012 21:05 GMT
#3157
On October 13 2012 05:56 jaybrundage wrote:
Why dont we see more annie. From my experience she does great against the common mids like eve, kat, and ahri

most of the time, the answer to a 'why don't we see x' question is just that x isn't popular, either for no particular reason or for very subjective reasons (eg, not fun to play, or w/e)
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
October 12 2012 21:07 GMT
#3158
On October 13 2012 05:56 jaybrundage wrote:
Why dont we see more annie. From my experience she does great against the common mids like eve, kat, and ahri


No mobility, and very short ranged. Highly reliant on a relatively long ult CD as well.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 12 2012 21:09 GMT
#3159
On October 13 2012 04:59 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 04:56 Chill wrote:
On October 13 2012 02:06 barbsq wrote:
dafk

m-rod don't need no remake, he da buffest champ eva. Huehuehue all day and dont give a fuck

edit: in other news, i was forced to go mid for the first time ever in solo queue. needless to say, we lost pretty miserably, but i'm shocked that I was ever put into that position. So should I bother learning a mid champ or hope it's a 1/1000000 kind of thing.

I was the same. So I learned AP Sion because I knew him from top. He was okay and I could hold my own but he's not the greatest.

Then I learned Veigar. He's super fun.

I recently learned Cho because he can go top, mid and jungle. He's fun

Or you could learn Ahri because she's really easy to learn.


go fiddle, play any role you want and kill shit

okay, ad fiddle kind of troll but its semi viable amirite?

there's a lot of champs that do well in 4 roles, but just not adc :/

You only play AD fiddle if you have the Bandito skin afaik. Cause cowboy fiddles best fiddles
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
SoulSever
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada779 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 21:25:13
October 12 2012 21:20 GMT
#3160
Are arpen quints good on anyone other than Olaf?
Violet <3 ~~~Better places than here exist
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