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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 17:15:49
September 09 2012 17:15 GMT
#2421
My go-to champion against assassins is Swain just because he can run AD runes and punish most melee mids while still being able to sustain really well, on top of several targeted damage spells that can really put the hurt on anything that gets close.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
September 09 2012 17:26 GMT
#2422
On September 10 2012 02:15 Praetorial wrote:
My go-to champion against assassins is Swain just because he can run AD runes and punish most melee mids while still being able to sustain really well, on top of several targeted damage spells that can really put the hurt on anything that gets close.

Are you still running MPen reds?

I've been wondering because on a lot of magic champions I would rather have something else in that red slot but have 30Mpen from runes+masteries+sorc shoes seems so magical and cost efficient.
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Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
September 09 2012 17:27 GMT
#2423
On September 10 2012 02:09 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 02:01 TheKefka wrote:
On September 10 2012 01:56 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 10 2012 01:50 Zhiroo wrote:
On September 10 2012 01:31 TheKefka wrote:
On September 10 2012 01:27 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm pretty sure at 2900 elo, you q with same player base as 2300 elo. just longer q times. Plus pros stream as a form of revenue, ergo they want viewers, queues do not make for entertaining streaming content

unless you are oddone playing wc3


oddone wc3 best thing ever. EVER.



God please no. As a (self-rated) decent WC3 player, the way TOO plays WC3 makes me scream. Considering how good he is at LoL his WC3 is really, really, really bad.

Controlling more than one unit = too hard for him.

That's.........kind of the point >.>
No one said he's good but it's really really funny watching him play.He narrates every move he makes in a way that just entertains people.I played some Wc3 as well and I can tell you ghoul rushing was never so fun as with oddone lol.


No it's not fun to watch when he doesn't micro his units at all.

Maybe I just give him too much credit. I am sure it takes like 30 APM to play as a jungler; this role requires almost no raw mechanics at all.


What other said before and I find it fun that's what counts.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
September 09 2012 17:28 GMT
#2424
The reason it's not enjoyable for you to watch oddone play wc3 is because there's a direct skillgap so all you see are mistakes while 99.9% of his viewbase aren't any good at wc3 but know the basics so you just see the funny bit and never the mistakes. I always switch jungler streams off when they die early to something dumb because its too painful to see them playing jungle from really behind while it wouldn't bother most people.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
September 09 2012 17:43 GMT
#2425
On September 10 2012 01:56 Slayer91 wrote:
The reason people get 2900 elo when pros are 2300 elo is because they are playing consistently and convincingly better than their lower elo counterparts meaning they steadily rise in elo as long as their preformance level is higher than their current elo. As much as you guys like to kid yourselves people tend to play their elo unless they went suddenly from trolling to tryharding for example and you're also kidding yourselves if pros are playing any better than their elo when they're losing solo q and blaming their team. Not only do pros not generally tryhard in solo queue they also are often not on the level where they carry games alone. Saints not great on elo but you also don't see him carrying games when he plays with crs.

I mean really this shouldn't need explaining its just basic mathematics but for some reason people seem to think that players doing a solid top on a top team means they should be able to stomp solo queue when you'll usually find its the players who carry said teams are doing the stomping. (think froggen chaox and such)

I rarely see team members preforming well in solo queue and then feeding in their teams. When hotshot was getting rank 1 in solo q was also when he was a world class top laner.

And yeah, oddone wc3 so funny lol.



To be fair, atlest on Dyrus' stream I saw multiple times what happens when Dyrus cares. Like one time, when he was about 5 minutes into the game and Xpecial told him they have a scrim in about 15 minutes. He just went ahead and pushed his lane to inhib in about 15 minutes, went to mid pushed there, enemy team surrendered at 20. It was a completely different Dyrus. He wasnt looking any different, but his playstyle changed completely. Pushing every little mistake his opponent did to the max and such...
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 17:47:36
September 09 2012 17:47 GMT
#2426
yeah exactly that's why he's not great elo wise but technically he's a top class player. If he wasn't so lazy then he'd improve much more but he doesn't have the energy to tryhard in solo queue all day every day.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
September 09 2012 17:53 GMT
#2427
Wait,wasn't Dyrus one of the few that actually tryhards in solo que.For some time he was obsessing over getting n1 rank on NA and EU(eventually gave up because forellenlord is lord of EU lol).
Cackle™
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
September 09 2012 17:58 GMT
#2428
On September 10 2012 02:14 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 02:09 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 10 2012 02:01 TheKefka wrote:
On September 10 2012 01:56 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 10 2012 01:50 Zhiroo wrote:
On September 10 2012 01:31 TheKefka wrote:
On September 10 2012 01:27 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm pretty sure at 2900 elo, you q with same player base as 2300 elo. just longer q times. Plus pros stream as a form of revenue, ergo they want viewers, queues do not make for entertaining streaming content

unless you are oddone playing wc3


oddone wc3 best thing ever. EVER.



God please no. As a (self-rated) decent WC3 player, the way TOO plays WC3 makes me scream. Considering how good he is at LoL his WC3 is really, really, really bad.

Controlling more than one unit = too hard for him.

That's.........kind of the point >.>
No one said he's good but it's really really funny watching him play.He narrates every move he makes in a way that just entertains people.I played some Wc3 as well and I can tell you ghoul rushing was never so fun as with oddone lol.


No it's not fun to watch when he doesn't micro his units at all.

Maybe I just give him too much credit. I am sure it takes like 30 APM to play as a jungler; this role requires almost no raw mechanics at all.

k,how about this.
To you,it's not fun,but it's fun for 20 k people that are watching him.

No man, I don't think it's fun so it IS NOT FUN it's that simple. Got it? You should because I did.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 09 2012 17:59 GMT
#2429
Dyrus goes through phases where he tryhards super hard and then phases were he doesn't give 2 shits. When he tryhards it's honestly scary. Like he used to play gp a lot when tryharding. Would lvl 1 fb his lane opponent and then go kill the jungler at blue. Now with blue would desteoy his lane opponent, opponents jungle, and sometimea mid. Ult bot when needed. Shit was scary.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 09 2012 18:01 GMT
#2430
On September 10 2012 02:59 BlackPaladin wrote:
Dyrus goes through phases where he tryhards super hard and then phases were he doesn't give 2 shits. When he tryhards it's honestly scary. Like he used to play gp a lot when tryharding. Would lvl 1 fb his lane opponent and then go kill the jungler at blue. Now with blue would desteoy his lane opponent, opponents jungle, and sometimea mid. Ult bot when needed. Shit was scary.


was this when GP was too strong though? like, lots of people did that back then

/dyrushater
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
September 09 2012 18:24 GMT
#2431
On September 10 2012 03:01 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 02:59 BlackPaladin wrote:
Dyrus goes through phases where he tryhards super hard and then phases were he doesn't give 2 shits. When he tryhards it's honestly scary. Like he used to play gp a lot when tryharding. Would lvl 1 fb his lane opponent and then go kill the jungler at blue. Now with blue would desteoy his lane opponent, opponents jungle, and sometimea mid. Ult bot when needed. Shit was scary.


was this when GP was too strong though? like, lots of people did that back then

/dyrushater

gp lvl1 is still one of the strongest in the game
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
September 09 2012 18:25 GMT
#2432
Aphromoo/Pluto casting gotta be the most rawest casting I've ever heard, THOSE racial slurs LOL
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
D u o
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada381 Posts
September 09 2012 18:30 GMT
#2433
On September 10 2012 03:25 MooMooMugi wrote:
Aphromoo/Pluto casting gotta be the most rawest casting I've ever heard, THOSE racial slurs LOL

LMAO ikr, I'm glad they're casting the game regardless of what TSM says.
wot?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 18:31:37
September 09 2012 18:31 GMT
#2434
On September 10 2012 03:25 MooMooMugi wrote:
Aphromoo/Pluto casting gotta be the most rawest casting I've ever heard, THOSE racial slurs LOL

You must not get out much.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
September 09 2012 19:05 GMT
#2435
This is the greatest commentary ever
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
September 09 2012 19:05 GMT
#2436
What the fuck am I listening 2 lol
Cackle™
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
September 09 2012 19:09 GMT
#2437
I am really impressed by Pluto's ability to keep up with the name changes.
twitch.tv/cratonz
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 19:10:37
September 09 2012 19:09 GMT
#2438
I can't believe Pluto actually can commentate that fast with these fake names.^LOL exactly
Cackle™
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
September 09 2012 19:10 GMT
#2439
On September 10 2012 04:05 Flakes wrote:
This is the greatest commentary ever

This is so much fun. Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, the Toilet, Buzz Lightyear... xD
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
September 09 2012 19:12 GMT
#2440
On September 10 2012 04:09 TheKefka wrote:
I can't believe Pluto actually can commentate that fast with these fake names.^LOL exactly


Pluto is actually literally jesus.
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