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On July 03 2012 07:36 Slayer91 wrote: What did you intend, then? I am absolutely baffled as to why you'd want to post that picture. It's almost as if you picked a random game screenshotted it and decided to post it.
I think the intention was pretty self explanatory despite the lack of words. The fact that my team went like 16-40? I having 13 of the kills? It's frustrating as you probably know. I don't get why you're so hostile. Try and relax.
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On July 03 2012 08:07 TadH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 07:36 Slayer91 wrote: What did you intend, then? I am absolutely baffled as to why you'd want to post that picture. It's almost as if you picked a random game screenshotted it and decided to post it. I think the intention was pretty self explanatory despite the lack of words. The fact that my team went like 16-40? I having 13 of the kills? It's frustrating as you probably know. I don't get why you're so hostile. Try and relax.
We as a subforum have a history of abuse when it comes to having to read other peoples "QQ", that's why some of us have gotten a bit... sensitive about the issue.
Don't worry, you now know better about where to post it and everything is fine. =P
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I wonder, what do you all think the best support to "carry" with is? I find myself playing it a lot in solo queue (since no one else wants to and I try to accommodate), and I generally play Taric, Janna, or Soraka. However, no matter how much I keep my lane alive and secure kills, I can't do much later on in the game. Soraka can do some nice heals and silences, Taric stuns and runs around with auras, and Janna can have nice CC combos, but I don't feel like I can make enough of a difference with solo queue players being, well, solo queue players.
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From my experience, alistar in a support role, karma, or janna.
but only karma if you are good with her in a bot lane role.
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On July 03 2012 08:27 PrinceXizor wrote: From my experience, alistar in a support role, karma, or janna.
but only karma if you are good with her in a bot lane role.
Stop. Karma is a terrible support. I love Karma. But stop, you're wrong, and you will continue to be wrong.
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On July 03 2012 08:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 08:27 PrinceXizor wrote: From my experience, alistar in a support role, karma, or janna.
but only karma if you are good with her in a bot lane role. Stop. Karma is a terrible support. I love Karma. But stop, you're wrong, and you will continue to be wrong. Unfortunately, you are wrong. but i understand since you play mid you assume she's a mid character.
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On July 03 2012 08:26 Requizen wrote: I wonder, what do you all think the best support to "carry" with is? I find myself playing it a lot in solo queue (since no one else wants to and I try to accommodate), and I generally play Taric, Janna, or Soraka. However, no matter how much I keep my lane alive and secure kills, I can't do much later on in the game. Soraka can do some nice heals and silences, Taric stuns and runs around with auras, and Janna can have nice CC combos, but I don't feel like I can make enough of a difference with solo queue players being, well, solo queue players.
Blitz. Pull dem fuckers in all day.
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Hey guys, when was the last time you saw a Tryndamere, Xerath, or Master Yi? I remember when I would see those guys all the time but it has been at least 40 games since I last saw one of those three.
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On July 03 2012 08:26 Requizen wrote: I wonder, what do you all think the best support to "carry" with is? I find myself playing it a lot in solo queue (since no one else wants to and I try to accommodate), and I generally play Taric, Janna, or Soraka. However, no matter how much I keep my lane alive and secure kills, I can't do much later on in the game. Soraka can do some nice heals and silences, Taric stuns and runs around with auras, and Janna can have nice CC combos, but I don't feel like I can make enough of a difference with solo queue players being, well, solo queue players.
My personal favorite is Janna. Taric has the single target stun, but that's really about it. Soraka makes trades very prohibitive bot lane, which allows it to get to late game, which can be good or bad. Janna is really good for kiting, global MS passive, lots of CC.
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No, Karma is awful everywhere. Stop being hipsters.
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On July 03 2012 08:26 Requizen wrote: I wonder, what do you all think the best support to "carry" with is? I find myself playing it a lot in solo queue (since no one else wants to and I try to accommodate), and I generally play Taric, Janna, or Soraka. However, no matter how much I keep my lane alive and secure kills, I can't do much later on in the game. Soraka can do some nice heals and silences, Taric stuns and runs around with auras, and Janna can have nice CC combos, but I don't feel like I can make enough of a difference with solo queue players being, well, solo queue players. Poppy, Nautilus
this IMO
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On July 03 2012 08:39 Goshawk. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 08:26 Requizen wrote: I wonder, what do you all think the best support to "carry" with is? I find myself playing it a lot in solo queue (since no one else wants to and I try to accommodate), and I generally play Taric, Janna, or Soraka. However, no matter how much I keep my lane alive and secure kills, I can't do much later on in the game. Soraka can do some nice heals and silences, Taric stuns and runs around with auras, and Janna can have nice CC combos, but I don't feel like I can make enough of a difference with solo queue players being, well, solo queue players. Blitz. Pull dem fuckers in all day. man i've had some horror stories when i played blitz. solo queue players sometimes are too afraid to take advantage of blitz. pull their carry into 5 people, your 4 teammates run. ect. >.< so i recommend blitz a bit less just from those experiences.
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On July 03 2012 08:38 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 08:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:On July 03 2012 08:27 PrinceXizor wrote: From my experience, alistar in a support role, karma, or janna.
but only karma if you are good with her in a bot lane role. Stop. Karma is a terrible support. I love Karma. But stop, you're wrong, and you will continue to be wrong. Unfortunately, you are wrong. but i understand since you play mid you assume she's a mid character.
How do you play Karma as a support champ? She has poor sustain, has no hard cc, peeling ability and her abilities are kinda meh without some AP backing them up.
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No, because karma actually is a terrible support. She's more a supporty mid, similar to orianna. Ask SmashGizmo who is this forums #1 karma, he'll tell you the same thing.
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On July 03 2012 08:41 Mystogun wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 08:38 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 03 2012 08:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:On July 03 2012 08:27 PrinceXizor wrote: From my experience, alistar in a support role, karma, or janna.
but only karma if you are good with her in a bot lane role. Stop. Karma is a terrible support. I love Karma. But stop, you're wrong, and you will continue to be wrong. Unfortunately, you are wrong. but i understand since you play mid you assume she's a mid character. How do you play Karma as a support champ? She has poor sustain, has no hard cc, peeling ability and her abilities are kinda meh without some AP backing them up. You shield the damage instead of healing it, for starters. Second, she has the best AoE heal in the game and a 40% movement speed bonus for someone crazy
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On July 03 2012 08:42 BlackPaladin wrote: No, because karma actually is a terrible support. She's more a supporty mid, similar to orianna. Ask SmashGizmo who is this forums #1 karma, he'll tell you the same thing.
That's why I'm asking him how he plays it, this isn't the first time he's posted about how awesome support Karma is.
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On July 03 2012 08:41 Mystogun wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 08:38 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 03 2012 08:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:On July 03 2012 08:27 PrinceXizor wrote: From my experience, alistar in a support role, karma, or janna.
but only karma if you are good with her in a bot lane role. Stop. Karma is a terrible support. I love Karma. But stop, you're wrong, and you will continue to be wrong. Unfortunately, you are wrong. but i understand since you play mid you assume she's a mid character. How do you play Karma as a support champ? She has poor sustain, has no hard cc, peeling ability and her abilities are kinda meh without some AP backing them up. you pick her against the short ranged bot laners (corki, graves, vayne), picking her against like ashe kog or trist is definitely bad news though, and play the part of bully using the brush and your spells to guarantee good trades. She plays a bit like sona in that regard, poking then running away. her goal isn't to get kills in lane or even to just mitigate harrass on your carry, but to be the focus of the enemy team in lane and allow you carry to play a passive free farming game, while their carry is focused on you instead of cs. and then you just build her like any other tank support. Karma's strength as a support is her utility is the best of any support and her late game is phenomenal compared to most supports as well. only lulu can match her in utility, and lulu just does a little bit more, but not as well.
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lul karma sux what does it matter where she goes? stop argue.
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On July 03 2012 08:26 Requizen wrote: I wonder, what do you all think the best support to "carry" with is? I find myself playing it a lot in solo queue (since no one else wants to and I try to accommodate), and I generally play Taric, Janna, or Soraka. However, no matter how much I keep my lane alive and secure kills, I can't do much later on in the game. Soraka can do some nice heals and silences, Taric stuns and runs around with auras, and Janna can have nice CC combos, but I don't feel like I can make enough of a difference with solo queue players being, well, solo queue players.
Blitzcrank is probably the best support to "carry" with simply because one hook can win you the game later on, and early on one or two good hooks will win your lane for you. You can also roam mid once your AD is sufficiently ahead.
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On July 03 2012 08:39 Shiragaku wrote: Hey guys, when was the last time you saw a Tryndamere, Xerath, or Master Yi? I remember when I would see those guys all the time but it has been at least 40 games since I last saw one of those three. My feeling is that Trynd and Yi are played much more at low levels than higher levels, maybe you're just climbing the ranks? And I'm pretty sure it's just no one playing Xerath nowadays
Also, Blitz and Alistar are my opinion of the best supports to "carry" with (their CC means that even the most brain-dead of carries should be able to kill stuff)
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