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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 22 2012 21:32 GMT
#2941
On June 23 2012 06:30 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 05:53 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On June 23 2012 05:42 Kenpachi wrote:
On June 23 2012 04:51 Shikyo wrote:
I really don't get how it's that hard to get the roles btw?

I just say "me AD carry" at the start of every game and out of past 30 games I had to jungle once, solo top once, and solo mid once with about 27 AD carry games.

Linking something like a lolking page that shows you having like 15-2-10 KDA records 5 times in a row is a good way to get the lane you want.

i wish it was that easy.. everyone wants to play mid


My standard line is as follows:

"I would appreciate (lane goes here). However, if I don't get it I will not complain, cry, or feed."

I would say it has a high success rate.


Same I always request the role I would prefer but I always say "but I can play any role so np"

Of course it doesn't work as well as people demanding shit as people usually cave in and then be bitter the whole game (sometimes is somebody is being a real asshole with it I will pick that role intentionally)


My go to line is "I happen to suck balls at X, so if you wanna win you should probably let me do Y."

Nine times out of of ten you get Y in my experience.
AleKSei23
Profile Joined February 2007
Mexico75 Posts
June 22 2012 21:33 GMT
#2942
Is 1hr queue +++ for everyone?
uSnAmplified
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1029 Posts
June 22 2012 21:34 GMT
#2943
On June 23 2012 06:33 AleKSei23 wrote:
Is 1hr queue +++ for everyone?
Its the currently the same for me, can't say im surprised the way things have been going last couple of days
~
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 22 2012 21:41 GMT
#2944
On June 23 2012 06:30 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 05:56 Slayer91 wrote:
I've never went philo hog on udyr and felt it was a bad idea.
I've also never went philo ruby crystal into later aegis or something and thought it was a bad idea.
What do?

Obviously you're going to be good either way, it's a matter of which is better and when. It's a question with no real answer without being game specific.

I've wondered about this for a bit. I don't know anything about udyr really but what do you think about replacing the double gp5 with something like triple dorans and going really aggressive counterjungling/ganking?

Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 06:30 Slaughter wrote:
On June 23 2012 05:53 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On June 23 2012 05:42 Kenpachi wrote:
On June 23 2012 04:51 Shikyo wrote:
I really don't get how it's that hard to get the roles btw?

I just say "me AD carry" at the start of every game and out of past 30 games I had to jungle once, solo top once, and solo mid once with about 27 AD carry games.

Linking something like a lolking page that shows you having like 15-2-10 KDA records 5 times in a row is a good way to get the lane you want.

i wish it was that easy.. everyone wants to play mid


My standard line is as follows:

"I would appreciate (lane goes here). However, if I don't get it I will not complain, cry, or feed."

I would say it has a high success rate.


Same I always request the role I would prefer but I always say "but I can play any role so np"

Of course it doesn't work as well as people demanding shit as people usually cave in and then be bitter the whole game (sometimes is somebody is being a real asshole with it I will pick that role intentionally)


If someone is really asshole about it you absolutely need to give him the role and also tell your team to not flame him, those types will intentionally feed / leave easily and you want to avoid that. They also tend to be better than average at the game because their loss rate is inflated by their rage / tilt

I'd only really recommend going dorans or somethign if you're going tiger, since Phoenix will give you the dorans for free while you cans pend gold on something to make you more tanky.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 22 2012 21:58 GMT
#2945
On June 23 2012 06:32 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 06:30 Slaughter wrote:
On June 23 2012 05:53 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On June 23 2012 05:42 Kenpachi wrote:
On June 23 2012 04:51 Shikyo wrote:
I really don't get how it's that hard to get the roles btw?

I just say "me AD carry" at the start of every game and out of past 30 games I had to jungle once, solo top once, and solo mid once with about 27 AD carry games.

Linking something like a lolking page that shows you having like 15-2-10 KDA records 5 times in a row is a good way to get the lane you want.

i wish it was that easy.. everyone wants to play mid


My standard line is as follows:

"I would appreciate (lane goes here). However, if I don't get it I will not complain, cry, or feed."

I would say it has a high success rate.


Same I always request the role I would prefer but I always say "but I can play any role so np"

Of course it doesn't work as well as people demanding shit as people usually cave in and then be bitter the whole game (sometimes is somebody is being a real asshole with it I will pick that role intentionally)


My go to line is "I happen to suck balls at X, so if you wanna win you should probably let me do Y."

Nine times out of of ten you get Y in my experience.


1st pick- "imma go mid"

2nd or 3rd- "i'd like mid plz"

4th or 5th- "I'd like mid if at all possible. If not, pref not jangle."

I concede mid to someone who is higher pick than me, but always take if I can.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 22 2012 22:11 GMT
#2946
anyone have a lv30 EU west account I can use to play ranked 5s on?
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 22 2012 22:17 GMT
#2947
On June 23 2012 06:30 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 05:56 Slayer91 wrote:
I've never went philo hog on udyr and felt it was a bad idea.
I've also never went philo ruby crystal into later aegis or something and thought it was a bad idea.
What do?

Obviously you're going to be good either way, it's a matter of which is better and when. It's a question with no real answer without being game specific.

I've wondered about this for a bit. I don't know anything about udyr really but what do you think about replacing the double gp5 with something like triple dorans and going really aggressive counterjungling/ganking?

Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 06:30 Slaughter wrote:
On June 23 2012 05:53 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On June 23 2012 05:42 Kenpachi wrote:
On June 23 2012 04:51 Shikyo wrote:
I really don't get how it's that hard to get the roles btw?

I just say "me AD carry" at the start of every game and out of past 30 games I had to jungle once, solo top once, and solo mid once with about 27 AD carry games.

Linking something like a lolking page that shows you having like 15-2-10 KDA records 5 times in a row is a good way to get the lane you want.

i wish it was that easy.. everyone wants to play mid


My standard line is as follows:

"I would appreciate (lane goes here). However, if I don't get it I will not complain, cry, or feed."

I would say it has a high success rate.


Same I always request the role I would prefer but I always say "but I can play any role so np"

Of course it doesn't work as well as people demanding shit as people usually cave in and then be bitter the whole game (sometimes is somebody is being a real asshole with it I will pick that role intentionally)


If someone is really asshole about it you absolutely need to give him the role and also tell your team to not flame him, those types will intentionally feed / leave easily and you want to avoid that. They also tend to be better than average at the game because their loss rate is inflated by their rage / tilt


Doran's are shitty on udyr.
Highwayman
Profile Joined March 2010
United States181 Posts
June 22 2012 22:21 GMT
#2948
On June 23 2012 04:51 Shikyo wrote:
I really don't get how it's that hard to get the roles btw?

I just say "me AD carry" at the start of every game and out of past 30 games I had to jungle once, solo top once, and solo mid once with about 27 AD carry games.

Linking something like a lolking page that shows you having like 15-2-10 KDA records 5 times in a row is a good way to get the lane you want.


Yes this is my experience as well, but that's because everyone wants to play mid or top. AD's a good one to play because it's easier to get in general. I request AD politely right when queue pops. If someone takes it I'll request jungle. Solo queue picking with randoms is a big political/psychological game. If you give in and always play filler you're not going to do as well in the long run so you should always try to get your best roles/champions first. If people don't cooperate and you end up having to play support, you're better off not saying anything at all and doing it. The problem I have is that when I rarely play support and I get pushed into it, I will choose non-standard supports and do a good job with them but people will bitch nonstop about it so it's a lose-lose situation.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 22 2012 22:31 GMT
#2949
Did Riot compensate for down time with IP boosts? I didn't get any if that is the case >:
Bronze player stuck in platinum
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
June 22 2012 22:31 GMT
#2950
On June 23 2012 07:17 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 06:30 Shikyo wrote:
On June 23 2012 05:56 Slayer91 wrote:
I've never went philo hog on udyr and felt it was a bad idea.
I've also never went philo ruby crystal into later aegis or something and thought it was a bad idea.
What do?

Obviously you're going to be good either way, it's a matter of which is better and when. It's a question with no real answer without being game specific.

I've wondered about this for a bit. I don't know anything about udyr really but what do you think about replacing the double gp5 with something like triple dorans and going really aggressive counterjungling/ganking?

On June 23 2012 06:30 Slaughter wrote:
On June 23 2012 05:53 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On June 23 2012 05:42 Kenpachi wrote:
On June 23 2012 04:51 Shikyo wrote:
I really don't get how it's that hard to get the roles btw?

I just say "me AD carry" at the start of every game and out of past 30 games I had to jungle once, solo top once, and solo mid once with about 27 AD carry games.

Linking something like a lolking page that shows you having like 15-2-10 KDA records 5 times in a row is a good way to get the lane you want.

i wish it was that easy.. everyone wants to play mid


My standard line is as follows:

"I would appreciate (lane goes here). However, if I don't get it I will not complain, cry, or feed."

I would say it has a high success rate.


Same I always request the role I would prefer but I always say "but I can play any role so np"

Of course it doesn't work as well as people demanding shit as people usually cave in and then be bitter the whole game (sometimes is somebody is being a real asshole with it I will pick that role intentionally)


If someone is really asshole about it you absolutely need to give him the role and also tell your team to not flame him, those types will intentionally feed / leave easily and you want to avoid that. They also tend to be better than average at the game because their loss rate is inflated by their rage / tilt


Doran's are shitty on udyr.

No man Dblades on tiger udyr with ad quints/reds are #1, ganks are hilarious and buff clears are insanely fast. Ganks are really hilarious tho, only reason to do it.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
AleKSei23
Profile Joined February 2007
Mexico75 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 22:39:05
June 22 2012 22:33 GMT
#2951
Server down again?


Still in queue after 45 minutes, it was the 30minutes before login now it says nothing and calculating

EDIT: QQ now it says 3hrs+++++++
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 22 2012 22:36 GMT
#2952
Lilballz actually typically goes 2DBlade->Visage on jungle tigerdyr. On lane, the Wriggle's stats seem infinitely better than DBlades, but with a jungle income, the buildup to Wriggle's can feel kind of shitty. 2DBlade definitely feels smoother to have in low-level scuffles than a Madred's Razors.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 22 2012 22:37 GMT
#2953
Dont think this is QQ thread worthy but I did the biggest fail ever by being too good.

Me 50 hp he 50 hp. I have enough mana for Corki Q, but I leveled up so I lvel it up. No longer enough mana -> die.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
June 22 2012 22:39 GMT
#2954
I completed all my 10 rune pages for all champions i use and i have basically all champions unlocked... what runes could i spend my IP on now?

I have
+ Show Spoiler [Marks] +

AS
AD
AD/Lvl
ArPen
MPen
MReg (don't know why i have those)

+ Show Spoiler [Seals] +

Gp10
MReg/Lvl
Health/Lvl
Armor

+ Show Spoiler [Glyphs] +

MResist/Lvl
MReg/Lvl
AP/Lvl

+ Show Spoiler [Quints] +

Gp10
MReg/Lvl
ArPen
AP/Lvl
AP
Movement Speed
Lifesteal


Any runes i'm missing that i should have to be able to play everything and be prepared for all situations? I don't know what to do with the IP
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
June 22 2012 22:43 GMT
#2955
On June 23 2012 07:39 Morfildur wrote:
I completed all my 10 rune pages for all champions i use and i have basically all champions unlocked... what runes could i spend my IP on now?

I have
+ Show Spoiler [Marks] +

AS
AD
AD/Lvl
ArPen
MPen
MReg (don't know why i have those)

+ Show Spoiler [Seals] +

Gp10
MReg/Lvl
Health/Lvl
Armor

+ Show Spoiler [Glyphs] +

MResist/Lvl
MReg/Lvl
AP/Lvl

+ Show Spoiler [Quints] +

Gp10
MReg/Lvl
ArPen
AP/Lvl
AP
Movement Speed
Lifesteal


Any runes i'm missing that i should have to be able to play everything and be prepared for all situations? I don't know what to do with the IP



Spellvamp quints are pretty fun on manaless champs
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 22 2012 22:45 GMT
#2956
I wasn't talking about tigerdyr, but counterjungling wouldn't involve tigerdyr since he cleans camps slowly and ganks well.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 22:49:35
June 22 2012 22:48 GMT
#2957
On June 23 2012 07:39 Morfildur wrote:
I completed all my 10 rune pages for all champions i use and i have basically all champions unlocked... what runes could i spend my IP on now?

I have
+ Show Spoiler [Marks] +

AS
AD
AD/Lvl
ArPen
MPen
MReg (don't know why i have those)

+ Show Spoiler [Seals] +

Gp10
MReg/Lvl
Health/Lvl
Armor

+ Show Spoiler [Glyphs] +

MResist/Lvl
MReg/Lvl
AP/Lvl

+ Show Spoiler [Quints] +

Gp10
MReg/Lvl
ArPen
AP/Lvl
AP
Movement Speed
Lifesteal


Any runes i'm missing that i should have to be able to play everything and be prepared for all situations? I don't know what to do with the IP

Flat MR Blues
AD quints
AS quints

I dunno why you'd have AD reds and ArP quints when ArP reds/AD quints are more slot-efficient for the same stats. The only time to use AD reds is if you're already using AD quints, or are using MS quints (which you can't get on reds).
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Zaphod Beeblebrox
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark697 Posts
June 22 2012 22:50 GMT
#2958
Flat Mres glyphs?
AD quints?
mixed pen marks?
Anything with CDR?

Mres glyphs is afaik quite common to use in counterpicking.
AD quints are usefull if you need better lasthitting early.
CDR runes can be usefull on some champions that don't itemize for it.
Mixed pen are kinda strange, but the extra pen is usefull on some bruisers.
Go try StarBow on the Arcade. TL thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440661
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
June 22 2012 22:57 GMT
#2959
On June 23 2012 06:58 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 06:32 iCanada wrote:
On June 23 2012 06:30 Slaughter wrote:
On June 23 2012 05:53 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On June 23 2012 05:42 Kenpachi wrote:
On June 23 2012 04:51 Shikyo wrote:
I really don't get how it's that hard to get the roles btw?

I just say "me AD carry" at the start of every game and out of past 30 games I had to jungle once, solo top once, and solo mid once with about 27 AD carry games.

Linking something like a lolking page that shows you having like 15-2-10 KDA records 5 times in a row is a good way to get the lane you want.

i wish it was that easy.. everyone wants to play mid


My standard line is as follows:

"I would appreciate (lane goes here). However, if I don't get it I will not complain, cry, or feed."

I would say it has a high success rate.


Same I always request the role I would prefer but I always say "but I can play any role so np"

Of course it doesn't work as well as people demanding shit as people usually cave in and then be bitter the whole game (sometimes is somebody is being a real asshole with it I will pick that role intentionally)


My go to line is "I happen to suck balls at X, so if you wanna win you should probably let me do Y."

Nine times out of of ten you get Y in my experience.


1st pick- "imma go mid"

2nd or 3rd- "i'd like mid plz"

4th or 5th- "I'd like mid if at all possible. If not, pref not jangle."

I concede mid to someone who is higher pick than me, but always take if I can.

That is kind of amusing as on EU w top is the go to lane. I guess its the wickd hype train.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
June 22 2012 23:00 GMT
#2960
I can see mixed pen being good on like Nid or ken or swain top. They tend to spend a lot of time autoing their opponents but also have a good amount of magic damage. I think hotshot actually uses hybrid pen on his nidalee.

While on the topic of kennen, what do you think of getting berserker's on him while going AP? I like the idea of just rushing those boots instead of the semistandard double dblade and then doing standard kennen AP things. They will be more useful for you than the dblades in the long run and you will be able to stun your opponents more often.
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