I don't understand the whole "I chunked him for free, must dive" attitude in the first place.

If you have more hp than him and are zoning him then you are winning. If you best case scenario trade kills in a dive then you are, by definition, giving up your advantage for no reason. In fact if they are losing lane then they probably scale better late and will use that gold better than you. Hell even if you kill him and then have to b after tower damage thats often not as beneficial as just snowballing farm.

I main support so its funny as hell when I win bot lane and my AD translates that lead to mean we must push lane. All that does is let your opponent farm and open you up to jungle ganks to lose your advantage. If you just use your advantage to freeze lane and hard zone them then most solo-queue players will freak out and do something totally retarded since its not fun to sit on your tower and wait for leftover minions to come.

emraaa

Germany505 Posts

May 13 2012 15:34 GMT

#2966

i think froggen is by far the best apmid player atm

AsnSensation

Germany24009 Posts

May 13 2012 15:34 GMT

#2967

Either orianna (doubt it) or Froggen Op

dooraven

Australia2820 Posts

May 13 2012 15:36 GMT

#2968

On May 14 2012 00:11 turdburgler wrote:
navi seem to be playing great this weekend but noone talks about them. everyone too busy fapping to clg etc ;o

yeah Na'vi with Kottenx are so so good atm. Great desicion to replace araneae with him.

Zergneedsfood

United States10671 Posts

May 13 2012 15:40 GMT

#2969

Navi bans....anivia/oriana/ahri...

AP Kog incoming?

NotSorry

United States6722 Posts

May 13 2012 15:42 GMT

#2970

What happened with Snoopeh?

Zergneedsfood

United States10671 Posts

May 13 2012 15:43 GMT

#2971

On May 14 2012 00:42 NotSorry wrote:
What happened with Snoopeh?

Away. At Las Vegas apparently (or so I've heard).

Slow Motion

United States6960 Posts

May 13 2012 15:43 GMT

#2972

omg froggen is such a tease, flipping through all the ap's that we'd love to see

NotSorry

United States6722 Posts

May 13 2012 15:44 GMT

#2973

Okay so he's still with CLG.EU ?

JackDino

Gabon6219 Posts

May 13 2012 15:51 GMT

#2974

Who the hell is frogurt then? I thought it was snoopeh with a different name lol.

Haasts

New Zealand4445 Posts

May 13 2012 15:53 GMT

#2975

I think Froggen is the only person in the world who can get away with a L4 mid AP Kog terror gank on bot lane, heh.

Zergneedsfood

United States10671 Posts

May 13 2012 15:54 GMT

#2976

On May 14 2012 00:51 JackDino wrote:
Who the hell is frogurt then? I thought it was snoopeh with a different name lol.

No idea, probably just a sub. He didn't talk a lot on TS yesterday when CLG were streaming their tourney games.

ROFL Wickd.

Haasts

New Zealand4445 Posts

May 13 2012 16:19 GMT

#2977

Whoever Frogurt is, he's doing a hell of a job syncing up with Wickd's Kennen for epic peels during teamfights - let Kennen kill both Udyr and Nocturne despite being on 10% HP for twenty seconds or so.

Zergneedsfood

United States10671 Posts

May 13 2012 16:25 GMT

#2978

Nah, that's just standard CLG though. They have such great communication during fights.

Eppa!

Sweden4641 Posts

May 13 2012 16:44 GMT

#2979

I swear to god people underestimate a good support. Krepo is so insanely good with offensive support.

zer0das

United States8519 Posts

May 13 2012 16:46 GMT

#2980

Varus/Nautilus seems quite strong, if you go the max w and then e route on Varus. His cc lets you apply 3 stacks pretty easily, and then again a second time (or at least 2 or so). Also Naut's ult compliments Varus's ult really freaking well- pretty tough to miss the tendril when they can't move huehuehue.