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While this thread is labeled "DotA2", this is in fact a community thread first. Many of the users in the TL LoL subforum have been playing as friends for over a year now, so it makes logical sense that they would want to play other games together.

Do not compare DotA2 to LoL, you will get banned.

TL LoL veterans know what is expected. Newcomers be warned.

gl hf
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 06:50:50
September 26 2012 06:47 GMT
#621


also watch niuwa play with a troll morphling and teach you how to meepo

e: omfg this is literally "pub nightmare time with niuwa"
NightWalks
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia252 Posts
October 09 2012 10:38 GMT
#622
Can some1 explain me how Dota 2 matchmaking function ?
I played 100+ Bot games to test each hero, improve my lasthiting and get general feal of the game. Now i feel ready to start play Human games ( I dislike to ruin other ppl games with my lack of game knowladge )

So far its a random mess .... I feal like 2 years ago in LoL when i was lv1. 100% coin toss
Is there chance to get semi-organised games in Pubs ? Or i need to suffer 100+ games till my hidden ''ELO'' reaches some reasonable player base .... ?
LoL making ppl rage since 2010
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 13:31:27
October 09 2012 13:30 GMT
#623
Dota pubs are way way less competetive then League solo q /probably even normal games people just dont give any fuck at all (my guess is partly because you do not see your Elo and the people in stream just "troll" around more)
At higher level it gets a bit better but thats still no guarantee to not have a 5 carry team going on. Your best bet is to try to play some inhouses or play matchmaking with a few people.
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
NightWalks
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia252 Posts
October 09 2012 13:49 GMT
#624
Thnx Ente guess ill try add some ppl who play more or less reasonable and start build some friend pool to play with.

What is etiquete in Dota 2 when it comes to 100% lost games ? People tend to ragequit often and more follow , after 5min timer game anounces it's safe to leave , but some1 always stays thus game drags on till Enemy team finaly pushes down all towers.
If all 5 players from 1 side DC do game Automaticaly ends ?
The curent Battle point system/drops promotes afking in spawn zone until game end rather then just quiting for new game .
LoL making ppl rage since 2010
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
October 09 2012 13:54 GMT
#625
What is etiquete in Dota 2 when it comes to 100% lost games ?
First of all 100% lost games is not really something which you can judge (Im assuming you are not that experienced in dota) just because turnarounds can happen. And I even saw 1v5 wins (with the extra leaver gold) on Heroes like Alchi or Void or sth. If people ragequit you have to decide yourself you can leave if you want to and dont face any consequences (after the 5 min timer is gone/he abandoned the game) besides losing. But there are situations where you can win 4 v5 and it migh actually better for your team that he left.

Yes if 5 player leave the game ends but you can actually play a game if you left even though the other game is still going on.
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 15:25:44
October 09 2012 15:24 GMT
#626
Dota pubs are way way less competetive then League solo q /probably even normal games people just dont give any fuck at all (my guess is partly because you do not see your Elo and the people in stream just "troll" around more)

I think I have to disagree partially here. When I compare my experience in League solo q with DotA 2 solo q I feel the average quality of people is MUCH higher in dota, mostly because of "you can't visibly see the other guys penis size and make it shrink". Where in League raging people are commong every 2-3 games at least, those guys are MUCH rarer in DotA. I tend to report/commend whenever I see something really bad/really good happen and I submitted about 60 reports total over almost 600 games.

Also, keep in mind that in comparison to League your individual skill matters much more. Someone being 5-0 in lane or even the enemy team being 15-5 or something similar means way less because you can still get "the" black hole, sandking ult, fissure off. You can still have more gold than the other carry despite being down 5 kills simply because he might have horrible lasthitting.

Add to that the fact that losing in DotA can be much more fun than in League (because you can still blow up people 2n1 or 3n1 most of the time and there are much more chances to catch them) AND the fact that highground gives you a significant defenders advantage there are lots of games which can be turned after a bad start and/or leavers.


Once the game is "safe to leave", you can just leave without repercussions. It really depends on the people. If laning is onesided for our side I might keep going for battlepoints and some stomping, if it's rather even it might turn out to be a cool game anyway.

tl;dr: Try to have as much fun as possible even when things go bad and you'll be fine.


PS: I think neither of you two guys is in the steamgroup. Are you? IDs? =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 09 2012 15:30 GMT
#627
Solution to both games:
Play with a stack so you don't play with random idiots on your team.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
October 09 2012 18:10 GMT
#628
Yo,I have a quick question.I played only a couple of games the last few days and don't have the time to go through every single hero to get a feel for them.
Can someone tell me if there is a hero that has a similar AA animation,or feel to it,as the Brewmaster.I really liked him and his auto.
Cackle™
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 09 2012 18:16 GMT
#629
On October 10 2012 03:10 TheKefka wrote:
Yo,I have a quick question.I played only a couple of games the last few days and don't have the time to go through every single hero to get a feel for them.
Can someone tell me if there is a hero that has a similar AA animation,or feel to it,as the Brewmaster.I really liked him and his auto.

Best way is to check playdota.com/heroes and look for other heroes with the same or similar attack animation front-swing (Brewmaster has 0.35).
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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 18:25:20
October 09 2012 18:18 GMT
#630
Ah cool thanks,I was going through the wiki and gave up coz it took forever to load and check one by one.
I'll play around with Alchemist and Slardar next I guess!
Cackle™
NightWalks
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia252 Posts
October 10 2012 17:59 GMT
#631
On October 10 2012 00:24 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
Dota pubs are way way less competetive then League solo q /probably even normal games people just dont give any fuck at all (my guess is partly because you do not see your Elo and the people in stream just "troll" around more)


PS: I think neither of you two guys is in the steamgroup. Are you? IDs? =P


My steam ID http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198070716802/ I would be glad if you picked me for your TL games.
I'm a humble player and don't mind being scolded or play any role team needs ( actually in Dota 2 i like to play supports ) as long as team picks reasonable heroes and play past basics so i can watch and learn / improve.

Watching your lane carie walk back to base to buy boots with full HP is very disheartening in pubs
LoL making ppl rage since 2010
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
October 10 2012 21:01 GMT
#632
What's a really, really simple to play hero that can be support?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 10 2012 21:03 GMT
#633
On October 11 2012 06:01 Abenson wrote:
What's a really, really simple to play hero that can be support?

Lich
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Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
October 11 2012 23:37 GMT
#634
Sorry for tonight guys. Looks like my computer has now officialy deceased :/
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
October 11 2012 23:40 GMT
#635
On October 12 2012 08:37 Tyrran wrote:
Sorry for tonight guys. Looks like my computer has now officialy deceased :/

It's fine we made them ragequit for you.

FOR GLORY
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 23:41:31
October 11 2012 23:41 GMT
#636
On October 12 2012 08:37 Tyrran wrote:
Sorry for tonight guys. Looks like my computer has now officialy deceased :/


thats a bummer ^^ and yes they all rage quit cause of batrider
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
LazyFailKid
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada750 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 23:49:49
October 11 2012 23:48 GMT
#637
Yo, can I please get an invite? Would love to play some MM games with people who actually talk to their teammates O_O played 4-5 games and only 1 person on my team actually said more then 2 lines. I like supports (visage <3) and am a fairly calm person.

Id:LazyFailKid

Edit: is there a chat where you guys hang out or is it just the tl chat ingame?
RainSunShowers
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway152 Posts
October 12 2012 00:02 GMT
#638
Hey guys, I would love to join this group, I play both games but Dota2 the most. I have made a team called Team Teemo, ive made it for me and my friends but only I have a beta key, so anyone can join if they want to, but I will replace you when my friends gets keys or the game launch.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198014663983
Founder of CTL http://choboteamleague.enjin.com/home
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
October 12 2012 00:38 GMT
#639
@LazyFailKid: I'm lazy myself, so posting your steam link will get you invited. =P

We usually chill in the "Liquidparty" channel and also ask for +X if we still need people. We're probably at the point where we can have multiple parties in some timezones, so don't be afraid to add/ask around for games. =)

@Rain: Added. Those teams sadly don't do anything yet except in custom games. =(
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
RainSunShowers
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway152 Posts
October 12 2012 01:01 GMT
#640
On October 12 2012 09:38 r.Evo wrote:
@LazyFailKid: I'm lazy myself, so posting your steam link will get you invited. =P

We usually chill in the "Liquidparty" channel and also ask for +X if we still need people. We're probably at the point where we can have multiple parties in some timezones, so don't be afraid to add/ask around for games. =)

@Rain: Added. Those teams sadly don't do anything yet except in custom games. =(


Oh, still, looks cool..

Thanks by the way !
Founder of CTL http://choboteamleague.enjin.com/home
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