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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
March 05 2012 00:05 GMT
#1141
On March 05 2012 08:58 Cixah wrote:
Why aren't you guys taking W on Fiora top first anyway? I've been 1v1ing panths so long as you have smart use of your block. Level 1 is easy, its 2-8 that are hard. At 9 you should have maxed your E and be able to easily out last him with the massive attack speed and lifesteal you get from Wriggles. Plus if he drops sub 40% ignite and kill that little 300 wanabe.


You still have no way to trade or harass with him. His Q is on a shorter CD than your block and if you Parry a spear, you still eat a stun and most of a HSS.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 00:08:14
March 05 2012 00:07 GMT
#1142
Lol, I just played with Sion who had a full AD rune page. Went mid and literally three shot the other teams Leblanc... was the funniest thing i have ever seen. The LB started amp tomb, he just walk up, eat a Q then just Auto-Stun-Auto-Auto and she died in seconds.

So cheesy, rofl. He did a solid 150~ auto attack damage at level 1 with a Dorans Ring.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 05 2012 00:09 GMT
#1143
On March 05 2012 09:07 iCanada wrote:
Lol, I just played with Sion who had a full AD rune page. Went mid and literally three shot the other teams Leblanc... was the funniest thing i have ever seen. The LB started amp tomb, he just walk up, eat a Q then just Auto-Stun-Auto-Auto and she died in seconds.

So cheesy, rofl. He did a solid 150~ auto attack damage at level 1 with a Dorans Ring.


Yeah, I've a a few moments like that recently on ladder when playing with a few of my higher-ELO friends.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 05 2012 00:21 GMT
#1144
On March 05 2012 09:07 iCanada wrote:
Lol, I just played with Sion who had a full AD rune page. Went mid and literally three shot the other teams Leblanc... was the funniest thing i have ever seen. The LB started amp tomb, he just walk up, eat a Q then just Auto-Stun-Auto-Auto and she died in seconds.

So cheesy, rofl. He did a solid 150~ auto attack damage at level 1 with a Dorans Ring.

How does he do 150 AA damage if he starts Q?
currently rooting for myself.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 05 2012 00:26 GMT
#1145
On March 05 2012 09:21 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 09:07 iCanada wrote:
Lol, I just played with Sion who had a full AD rune page. Went mid and literally three shot the other teams Leblanc... was the funniest thing i have ever seen. The LB started amp tomb, he just walk up, eat a Q then just Auto-Stun-Auto-Auto and she died in seconds.

So cheesy, rofl. He did a solid 150~ auto attack damage at level 1 with a Dorans Ring.

How does he do 150 AA damage if he starts Q?


He's Canadian, math doesn't apply to his fairytales.

I DON'T HATE CANADA.

But there's no way.
Hey! How you doin'?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 05 2012 00:29 GMT
#1146
Wait, Fiora's W parry Panth's Q? That doesn't even apply onhit, it's a spell, not an attack.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
fantasticoranges
Profile Joined July 2011
1327 Posts
March 05 2012 00:35 GMT
#1147
On March 05 2012 09:07 iCanada wrote:
Lol, I just played with Sion who had a full AD rune page. Went mid and literally three shot the other teams Leblanc... was the funniest thing i have ever seen. The LB started amp tomb, he just walk up, eat a Q then just Auto-Stun-Auto-Auto and she died in seconds.

So cheesy, rofl. He did a solid 150~ auto attack damage at level 1 with a Dorans Ring.


I saw an ad sion do something like this
He picked sion, then called mid and said he was ad

me and my friends lol'd and were like kay
he went mid vs their lb and got first blood

later i found out he ran the cheesiest rune pages ever, full crit chance and pure flat ap were his only 2 pages
made me laugh
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
March 05 2012 00:40 GMT
#1148
On March 05 2012 09:29 Alaric wrote:
Wait, Fiora's W parry Panth's Q? That doesn't even apply onhit, it's a spell, not an attack.

yea i'm pretty darn sure fiora w can't block panth spear. if it does it's probably a bug.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 05 2012 00:41 GMT
#1149
On March 05 2012 09:21 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 09:07 iCanada wrote:
Lol, I just played with Sion who had a full AD rune page. Went mid and literally three shot the other teams Leblanc... was the funniest thing i have ever seen. The LB started amp tomb, he just walk up, eat a Q then just Auto-Stun-Auto-Auto and she died in seconds.

So cheesy, rofl. He did a solid 150~ auto attack damage at level 1 with a Dorans Ring.

How does he do 150 AA damage if he starts Q?


I dunno, I didn't look. I was just guessing you know "~" means right? Leblanc died in three hits, LB has 390 level 1 hp, I guess like 90ish does it with ignite.

Hell, lets do maths: 55.53base+3(2.3)quint+3masteries+5summonerswrath+9(0.95)reds+9(0.28)blues+9(0.43)yellows=86.77 AA damage.

Add 79 damage from Q, and 70 from ignite that is 409.31 damage.

So.. I guess not near 150 AA damage, but my point remains. He three shot LB, and it was funny.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
March 05 2012 00:43 GMT
#1150
On March 05 2012 09:41 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 09:21 Shiv. wrote:
On March 05 2012 09:07 iCanada wrote:
Lol, I just played with Sion who had a full AD rune page. Went mid and literally three shot the other teams Leblanc... was the funniest thing i have ever seen. The LB started amp tomb, he just walk up, eat a Q then just Auto-Stun-Auto-Auto and she died in seconds.

So cheesy, rofl. He did a solid 150~ auto attack damage at level 1 with a Dorans Ring.

How does he do 150 AA damage if he starts Q?


I dunno, I didn't look. I was just guessing you know "~" means right? Leblanc died in three hits, LB has 390 level 1 hp, I guess like 90ish does it with ignite.

Hell, lets do maths: 55.53base+3(2.3)quint+3masteries+5summonerswrath+9(0.95)reds+9(0.28)blues+9(0.43)yellows=86.77 AA damage.

Add 79 damage from Q, and 70 from ignite that is 409.31 damage.

So.. I guess not near 150 AA damage, but my point remains. He three shot LB, and it was funny.

LB has 465 hp at lvl 1. The base hp stat is hp at "lvl 0."
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 00:53:21
March 05 2012 00:45 GMT
#1151
Just played a game with MYM MaNia,didn't know he plays LoL O_o
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He just ran around trying to one shot people after he got dcap haha
Cackle™
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
March 05 2012 00:45 GMT
#1152
If you ignite first you get dat bonus 5 ad and ap. I think the full crit page would be much more annoying, especially once he gets his free 25 ad. He'll be close to 100 ad, which means 200 damage crits starting at level 2 :X .
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 05 2012 00:51 GMT
#1153
On March 05 2012 09:41 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 09:21 Shiv. wrote:
On March 05 2012 09:07 iCanada wrote:
Lol, I just played with Sion who had a full AD rune page. Went mid and literally three shot the other teams Leblanc... was the funniest thing i have ever seen. The LB started amp tomb, he just walk up, eat a Q then just Auto-Stun-Auto-Auto and she died in seconds.

So cheesy, rofl. He did a solid 150~ auto attack damage at level 1 with a Dorans Ring.

How does he do 150 AA damage if he starts Q?


I dunno, I didn't look. I was just guessing you know "~" means right? Leblanc died in three hits, LB has 390 level 1 hp, I guess like 90ish does it with ignite.

Hell, lets do maths: 55.53base+3(2.3)quint+3masteries+5summonerswrath+9(0.95)reds+9(0.28)blues+9(0.43)yellows=86.77 AA damage.

Add 79 damage from Q, and 70 from ignite that is 409.31 damage.

So.. I guess not near 150 AA damage, but my point remains. He three shot LB, and it was funny.

Nice calculations bro.
Unfortunately, they're wrong. LB starts with 390 (+75) HP and 15 armor. He can't autoattack her to death unless she is utterly retarted.
currently rooting for myself.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
March 05 2012 00:53 GMT
#1154
On March 05 2012 09:29 Alaric wrote:
Wait, Fiora's W parry Panth's Q? That doesn't even apply onhit, it's a spell, not an attack.


It doesn't block, which is what led me to come to this forum and ask what the hell I'm supposed to do. It doesn't block or parry panth's stun either. That's what makes it such a hard lane. I litterally can't do anything unless I drastically change my rune page as suggested (I work with armor pen red, armor yellow, mr blue and armor pen quint) or just say f*ck it and switch to a new solo top.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
March 05 2012 00:54 GMT
#1155
On March 05 2012 09:51 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 09:41 iCanada wrote:
On March 05 2012 09:21 Shiv. wrote:
On March 05 2012 09:07 iCanada wrote:
Lol, I just played with Sion who had a full AD rune page. Went mid and literally three shot the other teams Leblanc... was the funniest thing i have ever seen. The LB started amp tomb, he just walk up, eat a Q then just Auto-Stun-Auto-Auto and she died in seconds.

So cheesy, rofl. He did a solid 150~ auto attack damage at level 1 with a Dorans Ring.

How does he do 150 AA damage if he starts Q?


I dunno, I didn't look. I was just guessing you know "~" means right? Leblanc died in three hits, LB has 390 level 1 hp, I guess like 90ish does it with ignite.

Hell, lets do maths: 55.53base+3(2.3)quint+3masteries+5summonerswrath+9(0.95)reds+9(0.28)blues+9(0.43)yellows=86.77 AA damage.

Add 79 damage from Q, and 70 from ignite that is 409.31 damage.

So.. I guess not near 150 AA damage, but my point remains. He three shot LB, and it was funny.

Nice calculations bro.
Unfortunately, they're wrong. LB starts with 390 (+75) HP and 15 armor. He can't autoattack her to death unless she is utterly retarted.


She started amp tome against Sion. Draw your own conclusions.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 05 2012 00:57 GMT
#1156
On March 05 2012 09:54 GreenManalishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 09:51 Shiv. wrote:
On March 05 2012 09:41 iCanada wrote:
On March 05 2012 09:21 Shiv. wrote:
On March 05 2012 09:07 iCanada wrote:
Lol, I just played with Sion who had a full AD rune page. Went mid and literally three shot the other teams Leblanc... was the funniest thing i have ever seen. The LB started amp tomb, he just walk up, eat a Q then just Auto-Stun-Auto-Auto and she died in seconds.

So cheesy, rofl. He did a solid 150~ auto attack damage at level 1 with a Dorans Ring.

How does he do 150 AA damage if he starts Q?


I dunno, I didn't look. I was just guessing you know "~" means right? Leblanc died in three hits, LB has 390 level 1 hp, I guess like 90ish does it with ignite.

Hell, lets do maths: 55.53base+3(2.3)quint+3masteries+5summonerswrath+9(0.95)reds+9(0.28)blues+9(0.43)yellows=86.77 AA damage.

Add 79 damage from Q, and 70 from ignite that is 409.31 damage.

So.. I guess not near 150 AA damage, but my point remains. He three shot LB, and it was funny.

Nice calculations bro.
Unfortunately, they're wrong. LB starts with 390 (+75) HP and 15 armor. He can't autoattack her to death unless she is utterly retarted.


She started amp tome against Sion. Draw your own conclusions.

That's just bad. Standing still while he hits you in the face after his 1,5s stun is beyond imaginable stupid.
currently rooting for myself.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 05 2012 00:58 GMT
#1157
On March 05 2012 09:51 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 09:41 iCanada wrote:
On March 05 2012 09:21 Shiv. wrote:
On March 05 2012 09:07 iCanada wrote:
Lol, I just played with Sion who had a full AD rune page. Went mid and literally three shot the other teams Leblanc... was the funniest thing i have ever seen. The LB started amp tomb, he just walk up, eat a Q then just Auto-Stun-Auto-Auto and she died in seconds.

So cheesy, rofl. He did a solid 150~ auto attack damage at level 1 with a Dorans Ring.

How does he do 150 AA damage if he starts Q?


I dunno, I didn't look. I was just guessing you know "~" means right? Leblanc died in three hits, LB has 390 level 1 hp, I guess like 90ish does it with ignite.

Hell, lets do maths: 55.53base+3(2.3)quint+3masteries+5summonerswrath+9(0.95)reds+9(0.28)blues+9(0.43)yellows=86.77 AA damage.

Add 79 damage from Q, and 70 from ignite that is 409.31 damage.

So.. I guess not near 150 AA damage, but my point remains. He three shot LB, and it was funny.

Nice calculations bro.
Unfortunately, they're wrong. LB starts with 390 (+75) HP and 15 armor. He can't autoattack her to death unless she is utterly retarted.


That just means he needs four instead of three autos.

I dunno why you're being so hostile, I saw a situation in a game that amused me and I thought I'd share... I'm sorry I didn't grab all the nitty gritty little details while doing a level 2 gank as Lee Sin.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 05 2012 01:04 GMT
#1158
On March 05 2012 09:58 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 09:51 Shiv. wrote:
On March 05 2012 09:41 iCanada wrote:
On March 05 2012 09:21 Shiv. wrote:
On March 05 2012 09:07 iCanada wrote:
Lol, I just played with Sion who had a full AD rune page. Went mid and literally three shot the other teams Leblanc... was the funniest thing i have ever seen. The LB started amp tomb, he just walk up, eat a Q then just Auto-Stun-Auto-Auto and she died in seconds.

So cheesy, rofl. He did a solid 150~ auto attack damage at level 1 with a Dorans Ring.

How does he do 150 AA damage if he starts Q?


I dunno, I didn't look. I was just guessing you know "~" means right? Leblanc died in three hits, LB has 390 level 1 hp, I guess like 90ish does it with ignite.

Hell, lets do maths: 55.53base+3(2.3)quint+3masteries+5summonerswrath+9(0.95)reds+9(0.28)blues+9(0.43)yellows=86.77 AA damage.

Add 79 damage from Q, and 70 from ignite that is 409.31 damage.

So.. I guess not near 150 AA damage, but my point remains. He three shot LB, and it was funny.

Nice calculations bro.
Unfortunately, they're wrong. LB starts with 390 (+75) HP and 15 armor. He can't autoattack her to death unless she is utterly retarted.


That just means he needs four instead of three autos.

I dunno why you're being so hostile, I saw a situation in a game that amused me and I thought I'd share... I'm sorry I didn't grab all the nitty gritty little details while doing a level 2 gank as Lee Sin.

Because it sounded a lot like a flat out lie :/ 150 AA damaging Sion starting with Q, LeBlanc (with 390 HP) just standing in his face, how does that ever happen? Besides, that's more like 6 autoattacks. 5 if she's stupid enough to AA back and draw minion aggro (chances are she was) Sorry, I just don't see that happening. Anyway, no point in arguing, I didn't mean to offend anyone. It's just that this situation you described still sounds really fishy to me.
currently rooting for myself.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
March 05 2012 01:17 GMT
#1159
Not a big deal, but a level 1 gank from the enemy jungle side of the river with taric and sion should always result in a kill if the enemy mid doesn't have a heal/shield first level no?
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 05 2012 01:21 GMT
#1160
On March 05 2012 10:04 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 09:58 iCanada wrote:
On March 05 2012 09:51 Shiv. wrote:
On March 05 2012 09:41 iCanada wrote:
On March 05 2012 09:21 Shiv. wrote:
On March 05 2012 09:07 iCanada wrote:
Lol, I just played with Sion who had a full AD rune page. Went mid and literally three shot the other teams Leblanc... was the funniest thing i have ever seen. The LB started amp tomb, he just walk up, eat a Q then just Auto-Stun-Auto-Auto and she died in seconds.

So cheesy, rofl. He did a solid 150~ auto attack damage at level 1 with a Dorans Ring.

How does he do 150 AA damage if he starts Q?


I dunno, I didn't look. I was just guessing you know "~" means right? Leblanc died in three hits, LB has 390 level 1 hp, I guess like 90ish does it with ignite.

Hell, lets do maths: 55.53base+3(2.3)quint+3masteries+5summonerswrath+9(0.95)reds+9(0.28)blues+9(0.43)yellows=86.77 AA damage.

Add 79 damage from Q, and 70 from ignite that is 409.31 damage.

So.. I guess not near 150 AA damage, but my point remains. He three shot LB, and it was funny.

Nice calculations bro.
Unfortunately, they're wrong. LB starts with 390 (+75) HP and 15 armor. He can't autoattack her to death unless she is utterly retarted.


That just means he needs four instead of three autos.

I dunno why you're being so hostile, I saw a situation in a game that amused me and I thought I'd share... I'm sorry I didn't grab all the nitty gritty little details while doing a level 2 gank as Lee Sin.

Because it sounded a lot like a flat out lie :/ 150 AA damaging Sion starting with Q, LeBlanc (with 390 HP) just standing in his face, how does that ever happen? Besides, that's more like 6 autoattacks. 5 if she's stupid enough to AA back and draw minion aggro (chances are she was) Sorry, I just don't see that happening. Anyway, no point in arguing, I didn't mean to offend anyone. It's just that this situation you described still sounds really fishy to me.


Even more cause for it to amuse me. I dunno, what would I gain from lyinganyway? I'm gonna get E-famous for being in a game with a cheesy Sion, right?

Silly argument you're right. Anyway, I apologize for not having a more clear vision of what happened.
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