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The Champions Feedback Thread

General Warning: Do not caster bash in this thread. If there's something specific you don't like about OGN's casting, use the Feedback thread above for constructive criticism. Otherwise, don't comment about it.
~ Neo, 30.03.12, 20:25 KST
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22131 Posts
March 30 2012 21:23 GMT
#1881
Im glad to hear that CLG practiced 1v1 aswell according to HSGG in there interview. I think its something teams dont do enough. Just take a matchup and play the first 10 lvls a dozen times can be really helpfull training.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
March 30 2012 21:32 GMT
#1882
Chauster deserves a serious amount of respect. Has to play support for CLG but probably the most versatile player in the game. Practice partner 1v1's for hotshot and jiji, and can sub for any position on any champion and do well. Sick.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 30 2012 21:45 GMT
#1883
On March 31 2012 06:32 Slayer91 wrote:
Chauster deserves a serious amount of respect. Has to play support for CLG but probably the most versatile player in the game. Practice partner 1v1's for hotshot and jiji, and can sub for any position on any champion and do well. Sick.

Funny thing is that in certain aspects I'd rate him better than HSGG, Jiji and Doublelift in their respective roles. He might also be a better ganking jungler than SV but that I'm not so certain about. =P
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
March 30 2012 21:47 GMT
#1884
i helped clg cuz w/o chau or saint i wouldnt be where i am right now,my team wouldnt be where we are right now, its just good karma and saint's always been my boy so i helped them out
i have nothing to gain from helping clg, i'll be better off if they dropped out from the group stage but i helped cuz thier my friends and i owe chaunoob since he taught be how to play ad and saint and me are friends
thats all theres to it
i helped them cuz thier my friend not cuz i wanna gain something from helping them
i wish riot would give me better ping
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 21:49:23
March 30 2012 21:48 GMT
#1885
On March 31 2012 06:47 locodoco wrote:
i helped clg cuz w/o chau or saint i wouldnt be where i am right now,my team wouldnt be where we are right now, its just good karma and saint's always been my boy so i helped them out
i have nothing to gain from helping clg, i'll be better off if they dropped out from the group stage but i helped cuz thier my friends and i owe chaunoob since he taught be how to play ad and saint and me are friends
thats all theres to it
i helped them cuz thier my friend not cuz i wanna gain something from helping them


tl;dr: Chau is King

Edit: any thoughts on Group C and D, Loco?
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locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
March 30 2012 21:54 GMT
#1886
najin out of group C as first
op as 2nd

blaze as first
startale as 2nd in D
i wish riot would give me better ping
courtpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
866 Posts
March 30 2012 22:08 GMT
#1887
lets see how good fruitdealer's coaching is
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
March 30 2012 22:14 GMT
#1888
On March 31 2012 06:47 locodoco wrote:
i helped clg cuz w/o chau or saint i wouldnt be where i am right now,my team wouldnt be where we are right now, its just good karma and saint's always been my boy so i helped them out
i have nothing to gain from helping clg, i'll be better off if they dropped out from the group stage but i helped cuz thier my friends and i owe chaunoob since he taught be how to play ad and saint and me are friends
thats all theres to it
i helped them cuz thier my friend not cuz i wanna gain something from helping them

Thats what we loved about it.

Very nice man. Respect.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 30 2012 22:21 GMT
#1889
On March 31 2012 06:47 locodoco wrote:
i helped clg cuz w/o chau or saint i wouldnt be where i am right now,my team wouldnt be where we are right now, its just good karma and saint's always been my boy so i helped them out
i have nothing to gain from helping clg, i'll be better off if they dropped out from the group stage but i helped cuz thier my friends and i owe chaunoob since he taught be how to play ad and saint and me are friends
thats all theres to it
i helped them cuz thier my friend not cuz i wanna gain something from helping them

this is not true
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loco helped clg because doublelift slept with him
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not

BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
March 30 2012 22:44 GMT
#1890
That's good to hear. Wasn't aware of how much history Loco had with CLG. Though I still think it would be funny if Loco was actually a secret agent for OGN.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 30 2012 22:48 GMT
#1891
chausters always been #1 in my heart

loco gets man points for helping out
Antiochus
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada548 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 19:00:13
March 31 2012 18:58 GMT
#1892
edit: lol nvm
All play and no work makes Jack unemployed.
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
March 31 2012 22:02 GMT
#1893
There are some interesting conspiracy theories flying around (j/k). I could come up with my own theory, but for me it seems simpler to just believe the information i was given. Analyzing and theorizing without having enough information on a matter is rather pointless. Overthinking things on a message-board just makes your bloodpressure go up :-p

CLG and Loco/MiG are friends and help/helped each other out. My support to Loco/MiG and CLG. Keep it up.

Leffrey
Profile Joined August 2010
14 Posts
March 31 2012 23:52 GMT
#1894
Really late to this, but I just watched the CLG matches from Friday and I was struck by just how safe all of their lanes were. Mid Ahri can just 3 dash out of any pressure, Olaf can ult and run away. Cait has traps and net to remove herself from any trouble. I think CLG's plan was just to get really safe lanes, farm really hard, and come into the mid-game on par with their opponents.
sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
April 01 2012 00:55 GMT
#1895
On April 01 2012 08:52 Leffrey wrote:
Really late to this, but I just watched the CLG matches from Friday and I was struck by just how safe all of their lanes were. Mid Ahri can just 3 dash out of any pressure, Olaf can ult and run away. Cait has traps and net to remove herself from any trouble. I think CLG's plan was just to get really safe lanes, farm really hard, and come into the mid-game on par with their opponents.

yeah it really fits their playstyle, they're all just farmers. hsgg and jiji get to just sit around and rice (although i was impressed with jiji's ganks on botlane), saint can boss people around and they get a farmed late game cait. makes a lot of sense and i'm interested to see what kind of counter strategies the other teams will come up with to counter it.

i'm also very impressed with how well hotshot played his matchups, kennen and vlad seem like perfect counter picks but he handled them quite well. great play by jiji too, ahri strong.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
April 01 2012 01:06 GMT
#1896
On April 01 2012 08:52 Leffrey wrote:
Really late to this, but I just watched the CLG matches from Friday and I was struck by just how safe all of their lanes were. Mid Ahri can just 3 dash out of any pressure, Olaf can ult and run away. Cait has traps and net to remove herself from any trouble. I think CLG's plan was just to get really safe lanes, farm really hard, and come into the mid-game on par with their opponents.


CLG has almost always been a team that doesn't really win early game but rather wins through superior late game and team fighting ability. Even in the super early days of LoL before Doublelift or Saint were even on the team they would just lane and win late by team fighting or by picking better late game comps.

The reason CLG dominated so hard during the early days of LoL wasn't because they had better laners or more skilled players (although they certainly did have people who were all really good) it's because they were just straight up better than the other European and NA teams at team fighting. That of course has changed now but they still rely on their team fighting ability rather than picking comps to just win lane phase (as teams like M5 or TSM sometimes do).
Leffrey
Profile Joined August 2010
14 Posts
April 01 2012 02:22 GMT
#1897
I am more saying that they are going back to that by comparison to the comp they ran against Xenics Storm. Like, Ryze is very weak and unsafe early, Cho has a lot of sustain but is also divable early. Their support was sona in that game, who has very low health until she gets to HoG/Kindle gem. Mundo's first clear is scary, even with help. Only Ezreal is really safe during the 5-8 minutes of the game, and even then if they ever actually get to trade with you, graves just overpowers ezreal.

I think one of the big things that CLG did was take a step backwards in time, since a lot of the Korean teams decide games by the 10 minute mark. They just don't play against teams that know how to be safe and make the game drag out till they have a large advantage. CLG was playing like they would against TSM or Dignitas, teams that understand how to plan to build advantages slowly, squeezing all the objectives out of the map. They lost because they were not expecting the wild risks that the opposing team are willing to take.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
April 01 2012 15:30 GMT
#1898
Is Captain Jack on MiG Blaze Jack sparrow?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
April 01 2012 15:49 GMT
#1899
I thought he was captain jack dino.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
April 01 2012 15:50 GMT
#1900
On April 02 2012 00:49 Slayer91 wrote:
I thought he was captain jack dino.

That's racism man! But is he? Curious how high the chances are of fnatic getting stomped really hard.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
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