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The Champions Feedback Thread

General Warning: Do not caster bash in this thread. If there's something specific you don't like about OGN's casting, use the Feedback thread above for constructive criticism. Otherwise, don't comment about it.
~ Neo, 30.03.12, 20:25 KST
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23438 Posts
March 30 2012 12:32 GMT
#1681
On March 30 2012 21:31 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 21:30 StUfF wrote:
Alistar didn't gank. I think you really need to force those ganks.

Yep he should have just came, ran in, and ganked instead of waiting around for the perfect opportunity for ages. There really were multiple opportunities to gank even in the lanes he actually went to if he just kept walking instead of sitting around waiting for the eclipse of the moon


There was no position where he could have even landed a headbutt without taking tower shots. Showing your postion for nothing is not a good idea. There were no oppurtunies to gank when alistar WAS there because there was enough wards for CLG to smell when he was around camping.
Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
March 30 2012 12:32 GMT
#1682
I really don't understand the advantages of AD kennen over AP kennen in any universe.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23438 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 12:33:31
March 30 2012 12:32 GMT
#1683
On March 30 2012 21:32 Kickboxer wrote:
I really don't understand the advantages of AD kennen over AP kennen in any universe.


Did you see how hard hotshot got destroyed top lane? He also pushed down 2 towers and forced him to back constantly got free dragons and denied hotshot while free farming and free pushing. If the rest of CLG weren't so overfarmed it would have seemed good.
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
March 30 2012 12:33 GMT
#1684
XD's team had a ton of cc, but no real damage to follow it up with. If only that kennen decided to build ap.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
March 30 2012 12:33 GMT
#1685
On March 30 2012 21:27 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 21:26 Bwaaaa wrote:
On March 30 2012 21:23 nojitosunrise wrote:
ya! CLG party time!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Where is that gif from? LOL



the new AOD music video featuring CLG

+ Show Spoiler +

The video is pretty bad but it brung us some great gifs. Especially the Hotshot umbrella one.
When is the finals game? I'll actually be able to see it.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
March 30 2012 12:33 GMT
#1686
On March 30 2012 21:32 Chexx wrote:
this game is going to be blind pick now?


I don't think so.

Blind pick is only for a Bo3 or Bo7 in the later rounds.

It goes

Team A FP
Team B FP
Game 3 Blind pick

I think?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 30 2012 12:33 GMT
#1687
On March 30 2012 21:32 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 21:32 Kickboxer wrote:
I really don't understand the advantages of AD kennen over AP kennen in any universe.


Did you see how hard hotshot got destroyed top lane?


You really think AP Kennen wouldn't have been able to do the same?

AD Kennen is less relevant late game because his ulti just tickles...
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
March 30 2012 12:33 GMT
#1688
On March 30 2012 21:33 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 21:27 nojitosunrise wrote:
On March 30 2012 21:26 Bwaaaa wrote:
On March 30 2012 21:23 nojitosunrise wrote:
ya! CLG party time!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Where is that gif from? LOL



the new AOD music video featuring CLG

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uak19ra0OWQ

The video is pretty bad but it brung us some great gifs. Especially the Hotshot umbrella one.
When is the finals game? I'll actually be able to see it.


Soon tm.

Probably start in next 10 mins or so.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 12:36:12
March 30 2012 12:34 GMT
#1689
On March 30 2012 21:32 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 21:31 Shikyo wrote:
On March 30 2012 21:30 StUfF wrote:
Alistar didn't gank. I think you really need to force those ganks.

Yep he should have just came, ran in, and ganked instead of waiting around for the perfect opportunity for ages. There really were multiple opportunities to gank even in the lanes he actually went to if he just kept walking instead of sitting around waiting for the eclipse of the moon


There was no position where he could have even landed a headbutt without taking tower shots. Showing your postion for nothing is not a good idea. There were no oppurtunies to gank when alistar WAS there because there was enough wards for CLG to smell when he was around camping.

There were, most obvious was the one at the bottom lane when he got spotted by galio.

On March 30 2012 21:32 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 21:32 Kickboxer wrote:
I really don't understand the advantages of AD kennen over AP kennen in any universe.


Did you see how hard hotshot got destroyed top lane? He also pushed down 2 towers and forced him to back constantly got free dragons and denied hotshot while free farming and free pushing. If the rest of CLG weren't so overfarmed it would have seemed good.

Ap kennen would have done the same thing but better?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23438 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 12:35:40
March 30 2012 12:34 GMT
#1690
On March 30 2012 21:33 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 21:32 Slayer91 wrote:
On March 30 2012 21:32 Kickboxer wrote:
I really don't understand the advantages of AD kennen over AP kennen in any universe.


Did you see how hard hotshot got destroyed top lane?


You really think AP Kennen wouldn't have been able to do the same?

AD Kennen is less relevant late game because his ulti just tickles...


Absolutely not. I've laned against AP kennens and have been able to just walk up to them and rape them once we're level 7 and his autos are irrelevant, (with irelia say) AD kennens I just sit in a corner and cry. There's a REASON people do these builds.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
March 30 2012 12:35 GMT
#1691
On March 30 2012 21:33 StUfF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 21:32 Chexx wrote:
this game is going to be blind pick now?


I don't think so.

Blind pick is only for a Bo3 or Bo7 in the later rounds.

It goes

Team A FP
Team B FP
Game 3 Blind pick

I think?


ah okay only in the later rounds. Thanks
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 30 2012 12:35 GMT
#1692
On March 30 2012 21:34 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 21:33 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 30 2012 21:32 Slayer91 wrote:
On March 30 2012 21:32 Kickboxer wrote:
I really don't understand the advantages of AD kennen over AP kennen in any universe.


Did you see how hard hotshot got destroyed top lane?


You really think AP Kennen wouldn't have been able to do the same?

AD Kennen is less relevant late game because his ulti just tickles...


Absolutely not. I've laned against AP kennens and have been able to just walk up to them and rape them, AD kennens I just sit in a corner and cry. There's a REASON people do these builds.

How do you walk up to an AP kennen with Olaf? I'm genuinely curious.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
March 30 2012 12:36 GMT
#1693
On March 30 2012 21:32 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 21:32 Kickboxer wrote:
I really don't understand the advantages of AD kennen over AP kennen in any universe.


Did you see how hard hotshot got destroyed top lane? He also pushed down 2 towers and forced him to back constantly got free dragons and denied hotshot while free farming and free pushing. If the rest of CLG weren't so overfarmed it would have seemed good.


Wouldn't he have won the lane equally as hard as AP? Did autoattack damage contribute so much to the early domination - he was pushing down to tower even when all he has was wriggles.
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
March 30 2012 12:36 GMT
#1694
On March 30 2012 21:35 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 21:34 Slayer91 wrote:
On March 30 2012 21:33 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 30 2012 21:32 Slayer91 wrote:
On March 30 2012 21:32 Kickboxer wrote:
I really don't understand the advantages of AD kennen over AP kennen in any universe.


Did you see how hard hotshot got destroyed top lane?


You really think AP Kennen wouldn't have been able to do the same?

AD Kennen is less relevant late game because his ulti just tickles...


Absolutely not. I've laned against AP kennens and have been able to just walk up to them and rape them, AD kennens I just sit in a corner and cry. There's a REASON people do these builds.

How do you walk up to an AP kennen with Olaf? I'm genuinely curious.


You can trade. AP kennen has no sustain till he builds revolver.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23438 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 12:37:46
March 30 2012 12:36 GMT
#1695
Well, you axe em and smack em, not sure if it works with olaf. In any case, you won't be able to harass an olaf out of lane like 5+ times with an AP kennen. AP kennen sustains less, pokes less, kills towers slower, does less DPS, I haven't had trouble aganist an AP kennen in a long time. (axe much shorter cd than lightning rush)
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 30 2012 12:37 GMT
#1696
Bans:

NeL (first): Nid, LS, Galio (trolol)
CLG: Shen, Kog, Kennen
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
necrosed
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil885 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 12:38:58
March 30 2012 12:37 GMT
#1697
"I haven't see HotshotGG playing nidalee".

gg casters.


Ooh, I like. Banning Kog'Maw and picking Cait. Kog is probably the only champion that makes Cait struggle early game (after level 5).
Shadow of his former self.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 30 2012 12:37 GMT
#1698
first pick alistar...no surprise
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
March 30 2012 12:38 GMT
#1699
On March 30 2012 21:36 BlueFlames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 21:35 Shikyo wrote:
On March 30 2012 21:34 Slayer91 wrote:
On March 30 2012 21:33 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 30 2012 21:32 Slayer91 wrote:
On March 30 2012 21:32 Kickboxer wrote:
I really don't understand the advantages of AD kennen over AP kennen in any universe.


Did you see how hard hotshot got destroyed top lane?


You really think AP Kennen wouldn't have been able to do the same?

AD Kennen is less relevant late game because his ulti just tickles...


Absolutely not. I've laned against AP kennens and have been able to just walk up to them and rape them, AD kennens I just sit in a corner and cry. There's a REASON people do these builds.

How do you walk up to an AP kennen with Olaf? I'm genuinely curious.


You can trade. AP kennen has no sustain till he builds revolver.


Kennen with no items did fine and got Wriggles on his first B, he could have easily built a revolver for the same price.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 30 2012 12:39 GMT
#1700
HSGG, please counterpick Vlad. tyty
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
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