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[Patch 1.0.0.127: Graves] General Discussion - Page 124

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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 20:20:50
October 27 2011 20:20 GMT
#2461
There is a problem with EU Chat Servers atm. Sometimes you get directed to an empty server. Not sure why this is atm. Have been speaking with QA the past week about it.

Log out and log back in for now for a fix.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 27 2011 20:22 GMT
#2462
On October 28 2011 05:10 Node wrote:
I learned something last night!

So I bought ArPen quints to improve my jungling, and decided it was about time I figured out how to jungle Riven. So I started working on vamp scepter start, and kept dying at twin golems. I was all "wtf, the guide says I can do this". Then a little lightbulb somewhere goes off, and I switched to AD marks + quints. Bam, I finish small jungle clear with like half health, no problem. I then nudge a bit in the other direction and go ArPen marks + AD quints, and am still successful. Woo! I realize that that I just arrived at the "standard" for Riven jungling, but it was cool figuring it out for myself and seeing why it worked.

Yaaaaay learning.

I like Armor 5pot start, but Vamp Scepter works too :D
It's your boy Guzma!
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 20:44:51
October 27 2011 20:41 GMT
#2463
So... The new southpark episode is based on recent studies of Reginald's behaviour.

http://en.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/lrak7/part_of_reginalds_stream_in_new_south_park_episode/

Also, saint not mentioning Behkuh in his Girls of LoL tier list when he recently made out with her.

real bm.
currently rooting for myself.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 20:47:17
October 27 2011 20:47 GMT
#2464
She was there.

That whole list is a waste of time, please don't post about it.
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Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
October 27 2011 20:50 GMT
#2465
Graves taric is officially the most retarded lane ever. So much innate armor, you will never win a single trade against that shit.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 27 2011 20:50 GMT
#2466
On October 28 2011 05:47 Craton wrote:
She was there.

That whole list is a waste of time, please don't post about it.

A lot of stuff that's being posted here is a waste of time rofl.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 27 2011 21:02 GMT
#2467
On October 28 2011 05:50 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
Graves taric is officially the most retarded lane ever. So much innate armor, you will never win a single trade against that shit.


no dude graves soraka is the worst

good graves literally stands in front of your creeps and bursts you if you try to hit anything

you try to trade with him? soraka heals him and gives him armor and u come out behind

u try to last hit anything? burst to the face.

you try to wait until he runs out of mana? oh sorry he's with soraka infinite mana gg
spacemonkey4eve
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States267 Posts
October 27 2011 21:03 GMT
#2468
On October 28 2011 05:50 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
Graves taric is officially the most retarded lane ever. So much innate armor, you will never win a single trade against that shit.


I don't know if the other graves was bad, but our bot with cait and sona (me) just flat out outranged and poked the enemy graves +taric, and pushed the tower by ~12 minutes. This was a 1600 ELO game so not some noob taking graves either, but yes we managed with cait and sona.
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
October 27 2011 21:26 GMT
#2469
On October 28 2011 06:02 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 05:50 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
Graves taric is officially the most retarded lane ever. So much innate armor, you will never win a single trade against that shit.


no dude graves soraka is the worst

good graves literally stands in front of your creeps and bursts you if you try to hit anything

you try to trade with him? soraka heals him and gives him armor and u come out behind

u try to last hit anything? burst to the face.

you try to wait until he runs out of mana? oh sorry he's with soraka infinite mana gg

His mana pool is huge to begin with too. Sometimes I wonder if riot even think about the design process.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 27 2011 21:29 GMT
#2470
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=279969

For laughs, especially when Ack pulls out the "nigger" card on why using "MOBA" is evil and wrong.

But I'm not wrong here, am I? Most of you who play LoL couldn't care less if our genre is called MOBA or whatnot? His reasoning is just trolol.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4613 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 21:38:32
October 27 2011 21:37 GMT
#2471
On October 28 2011 06:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=279969

For laughs, especially when Ack pulls out the "nigger" card on why using "MOBA" is evil and wrong.

But I'm not wrong here, am I? Most of you who play LoL couldn't care less if our genre is called MOBA or whatnot? His reasoning is just trolol.


So I had to jump to the end. And his comparison between a politically incorrect, and outright offensive word to a "misuse" of MOBA is really dumb.

As he says, the history of MOBA started with some guy working on DotA1... Wtf... Why would you create a term to describe something that fails to describe it? -_-

Edit: Yeah, reading a little bit more it seems very trololol.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 27 2011 21:42 GMT
#2472
His argument is really poor, but moba is indeed a stupid term. While most of the genre classifications are vague at best, moba is needlessly inaccurate as it says absolutely nothing about the game.

Pretty sure there was a topic at the start of the dota2 forum that actually had some good discussion.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 27 2011 21:43 GMT
#2473
On October 28 2011 06:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=279969

For laughs, especially when Ack pulls out the "nigger" card on why using "MOBA" is evil and wrong.

But I'm not wrong here, am I? Most of you who play LoL couldn't care less if our genre is called MOBA or whatnot? His reasoning is just trolol.

I like his claim that MOBA doesn't describe the genre well enough. Multiplayer Online Battle Arena. Is the game online? Do you battle, in an arena, with multiple people?

It's pretty fucking apt as far as descriptions go.
It's your boy Guzma!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 27 2011 21:44 GMT
#2474
"Massively Online" is just an out of date term. Everything can fit into MO these days.

"Battle Arena" is hardly inaccurate.

I mean it's an acronym, how accurate does it need to be? If I can associate an idea to an acronym, I think the acronym's done its duty, lol.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 21:49:53
October 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#2475
If people think of the genre if they say MOBA then that's it. The word itself has not been used to discriminate people (like "nigger") or anything bad. The origin doesn't matter.

It's not inaccurate if people know what it actually means. It's not like the letters in "egg" somehow tell you what "egg" actually means.

Damn I wouldn't even have realized it's my birthday (in a few minutes) if it wasnt for TL. I was like - hey where's my post? OH THAT BIRTHDAY HAT IS ON MY POST!
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 27 2011 21:47 GMT
#2476
The games may aswell be called rts since they are in fact real time and there is also strategy involved >.>
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 21:48:21
October 27 2011 21:47 GMT
#2477
Is it any less accurate than RPG? It literally stands for Role Playing Game. Any time you play a game, you are taking on a role. Any single game in existence is an RPG. Starcraft is an RPG where you roleplay as a commander/executor/cerebrate. Halo is an RPG where you roleplay as Master Chief.

But RPG sounds better than "Spreadsheet and Level type game", so who gives a fuck?

I guess we could start calling the DotA clones, like, Lane and Tower Game or something, but is it really a big deal?
It's your boy Guzma!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 27 2011 21:50 GMT
#2478
On October 28 2011 06:45 spinesheath wrote:
If people think of the genre if they say MOBA then that's it. The word itself has not been used to discriminate people (like "nigger") or anything bad. The origin doesn't matter.

It's not inaccurate if people know what it actually means. It's not like the letters in "egg" somehow tell you what "egg" actually means.

Damn I wouldn't even have realized it's my birthday (in a few hours) if it wasnt for TL. I was like - hey where's my post? OH THAT BIRTHDAY HAT IS ON MY POST!

You should try posting on the forums or something. One of the Rioters posing as Fiddlesticks has been popping into threads (scaring the crap out of people because every time you load a page with him on it, the surprise crowstorm sound plays) and giving people IP boosts or something?
Maybe you can get a free skin for sharing a birthday or something?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 27 2011 21:57 GMT
#2479
On October 28 2011 06:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=279969

For laughs, especially when Ack pulls out the "nigger" card on why using "MOBA" is evil and wrong.

But I'm not wrong here, am I? Most of you who play LoL couldn't care less if our genre is called MOBA or whatnot? His reasoning is just trolol.


Not gonna enter that shitstorm thread but I will say on here that I will always use the term MOBA just to spite Ack1027. Ten years from now when someone asks me if I want to play League of Legends 3, the brand new game that came out I will respond, "That's a MOBA right???" and think fondly on Ack1027.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 22:00:06
October 27 2011 21:59 GMT
#2480
MOBA is a bad acronym because it isn't catchy and can easily be mistaken for something other than an acronym when used in casual conversation. Terms like RPG, RTS, and FPS work well because it's obvious that they're acronyms, and they're all short enough (both in word count and syllables) to be easy to remember (even if the expanded acronym arguably doesn't properly describe the genre).

That's why Gabe Newell's "Action RTS" term is probably better.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
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