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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 02 2011 18:21 GMT
#3821
On October 03 2011 03:18 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 03:16 BlackPaladin wrote:
TL trollhouse:

[image loading]

When I kill cho top he said that AP sions are so gay. I maxed e.

i hate you. i want to cry


Remember, it's down the road not across the street!
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 02 2011 18:23 GMT
#3822
Fucking servers dying again. Worst part is im playing Cassi. cant hit any spells lolol.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
October 02 2011 18:30 GMT
#3823
On October 03 2011 03:16 BlackPaladin wrote:
TL trollhouse:

[image loading]

When I kill cho top he said that AP sions are so gay. I maxed e.



In normal though you can run anything and go 10/1. People in normal bitch just to bitch.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 18:44:52
October 02 2011 18:44 GMT
#3824
On October 03 2011 03:17 JBright wrote:
Anyone else watching the Rampage thing from WellPlayed? It's Curse vs. Dignitas this week.

Also, Chaox is doing his own commentary over it right now.

edit: wow, WP can get spectator mode working but Riot can't do it in China T_T

IEM is being done by Tencent. WP I think is Riot's NY Server which has full NA Riot support. Think IEM NY will be running the full Obs Mode and Replays.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 02 2011 18:49 GMT
#3825
Moon, can you give us a slightly better time estimate than soon for that to go to live? Like a # of months guess?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 18:53:05
October 02 2011 18:51 GMT
#3826
The Rampage Showmatch is using the full spectator client with team global gold counter and all the flashy graphics and stuff so I'm hoping Moonbear just said IEM NY will be using that too.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 18:55:16
October 02 2011 18:54 GMT
#3827
With regard to MR/lvl vs flat MR on junglers, I think that's very much a matter of playstyle. For example, TheOddOne plays a pretty supportive jungle style, and ends up letting himself fall quite a few levels behind sometimes in order to disrupt the enemy jungler, or apply ganking pressure to lanes--which can put him at level 12 when the lanes are at level 15-16 when the game ends. Obviously if the game is ending (or at least if the major fights of the game are ending) when you're level 12, MR@18 is pretty silly compared to flat MR, and hence that's probably why he swapped to using flat MR on all his pages. Conversely, junglers that farm harder and focus on securing their own development generally will reach higher levels, and hence make MR/lvl more worthwhile.
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 18:59:06
October 02 2011 18:58 GMT
#3828
On October 03 2011 03:23 HazMat wrote:
Fucking servers dying again. Worst part is im playing Cassi. cant hit any spells lolol.

When you're morg and it's happening, you can't ever cast your ult (server and client have to agree that there's someone in range). at least morg and cass can still farm (pool ftw?)
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 02 2011 18:59 GMT
#3829
On October 03 2011 03:30 Shelke14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 03:16 BlackPaladin wrote:
TL trollhouse:

[image loading]

When I kill cho top he said that AP sions are so gay. I maxed e.



In normal though you can run anything and go 10/1. People in normal bitch just to bitch.


it was a tl trollhouse not a normal........ lol
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 02 2011 19:00 GMT
#3830
On October 03 2011 03:59 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 03:30 Shelke14 wrote:
On October 03 2011 03:16 BlackPaladin wrote:
TL trollhouse:

[image loading]

When I kill cho top he said that AP sions are so gay. I maxed e.



In normal though you can run anything and go 10/1. People in normal bitch just to bitch.


it was a tl trollhouse not a normal........ lol

More like a TL inhouse, 5v5 SR doesn't lend itself to trollhousing needs moar 6v6 TT and dominion inhouses.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 02 2011 19:00 GMT
#3831
On October 03 2011 00:55 LancerJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 23:29 Craton wrote:
The "lost mana" from 1-5 is usually trivial, if even a factor.

It's trivial in the sense that the vast majority of your mana regen at lower levels comes from base mp5, masteries, items, leveling up, returning to base, etc. But the additional mana you're getting from runes at level 7-9 is similarly small.

Luckily most mana issues arise at level 10+ when you need enough mana to poke and still be ready for team fights. Probably the only situation where you might prioritize flat mp5 would be certain supports or lane bullies like Cass.


Generally you should err on the side of scaling for any rune with a level 6 breakpoint unless you're trying to accomplish something very specific by using flat runes. It's the flipside of your point regarding levels 7-9. The difference between flat and scaling at levels 4-5 is small, and you reach level 4 extremely quickly whatever lane you're in.

That said, flat AP stacking Zilean is hilarious for level 1 bush camping and team fights.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 19:03:22
October 02 2011 19:01 GMT
#3832
www.twitch.tv/tooplark TL normals!
This game: SOLO TOP NUNU
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 02 2011 19:02 GMT
#3833
On October 03 2011 03:59 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 03:30 Shelke14 wrote:
On October 03 2011 03:16 BlackPaladin wrote:
TL trollhouse:

[image loading]

When I kill cho top he said that AP sions are so gay. I maxed e.



In normal though you can run anything and go 10/1. People in normal bitch just to bitch.


it was a tl trollhouse not a normal........ lol

IMO 3 members of the other team weren't trolling hard enough. That's why they lost.
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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
October 02 2011 19:49 GMT
#3834
more tl normals bein streamed!
This time: Revenge of Jungle Twitch.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
October 02 2011 20:10 GMT
#3835
Wow I just found out Dominion gives the most IP/minute out of any game mode, even when you lose.

And it's easy as fuck to grind during an IP boost. <3
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 02 2011 20:11 GMT
#3836
riots servers seem so terrible -_-

seems every week people i know from 1 area or another are lagging. unplayable right now :<
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 02 2011 20:13 GMT
#3837
Does Black shield prevent you from getting hit by Exhaust or did my game/eyes bug out real bad?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
October 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#3838
Enemy fps singed.
me: I can teemo to hardcounter singed
team1: LOL fknoob singed rapes teemo
team2: yeah wtf are you smoking teemo gets crushed by singed
team3: fucking idiot go support
me: seriously? seriously singed beats teemo? Wtf?
team1: wow this noob omg

LOL I DON"T UNDERSTAND
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 20:54:50
October 02 2011 20:17 GMT
#3839
Singed poison 100% uptime Teemo poison not 100% uptime Singed wins easily duh.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 02 2011 20:25 GMT
#3840
LOL, duo with Soniv. He doesn't have accelerated elo anymore and I still do. Start lower elo than him. End with over 20 points more than him. trollolol accelerated elo such a joke.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
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