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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
September 04 2011 04:03 GMT
#2481
RiotGuinsoo Steve Feak
As a peace offering I offer you a tidbit. We are shipping some Shen buffs next patch. Earlier listed stuff, plus a lil more #leagueoflegends
2 Sep
twitch.tv/cratonz
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
September 04 2011 04:12 GMT
#2482
i dont remember who but some1 said their an ace with building computers,could that person check out my thread plz :<
i wish riot would give me better ping
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
September 04 2011 04:38 GMT
#2483
On September 04 2011 13:03 Craton wrote:
RiotGuinsoo Steve Feak
As a peace offering I offer you a tidbit. We are shipping some Shen buffs next patch. Earlier listed stuff, plus a lil more #leagueoflegends
2 Sep

About damn time.
Give me a reason to play him over the likes of Amumu/Galio/Maokai/Singed
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 04 2011 04:47 GMT
#2484
On September 04 2011 12:56 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 12:43 r.Evo wrote:
On September 04 2011 12:39 Craton wrote:
On September 04 2011 12:19 zergnewb wrote:
I bought him when he first came out then stopped playing him until sometime this summer. First game I picked him back up was crazy awesome. Hard carrying as your team's main tank is so much fun. So is killing rammus and the irelia who ganked you under their turret.

Renekton ult is such a troll ability when ganked.


To be honest I kinda stopped playing Renek after the big nerf on him since he got dumped on by so many laners top.

But now that I think of that like ALL of them have been nerfed more or less. How is Renek nowadays top? Viable or still underpowered?


He's a monster
He shits in like every melee
Garen might beat him (duh) and maaaaaybe rumble but that's about it
I have nightmares about croc top


With Voyboys 21 9 0 build or something else?

I feel so bad not maxing CDR with Renek, but he runs like Bruta/Warmogs/Atmas/FoN npnp
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 04 2011 05:00 GMT
#2485
Just came back from holidays and what I see ?

WTF THEY NERFED MY XIN ?! RLY ?!
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
September 04 2011 05:06 GMT
#2486
On September 04 2011 14:00 Crucifix wrote:
Just came back from holidays and what I see ?

WTF THEY NERFED MY XIN ?! RLY ?!

didnt you really get used to unnecessary xin nerfs? ^^
NSANE.hydra
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States644 Posts
September 04 2011 05:15 GMT
#2487
how do you beat yorick top lane? just played against one for the first time today as singed, it was hell...
"fuck mech...I could 4pool and as long as he's simply PLANNING on going mech, I'll lose"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
September 04 2011 05:23 GMT
#2488
Get his hp to 0 without yours falling to 0.

+ Show Spoiler +
Works 100% of the time :D
twitch.tv/cratonz
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 04 2011 05:25 GMT
#2489
On September 04 2011 13:47 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 12:56 gtrsrs wrote:
On September 04 2011 12:43 r.Evo wrote:
On September 04 2011 12:39 Craton wrote:
On September 04 2011 12:19 zergnewb wrote:
I bought him when he first came out then stopped playing him until sometime this summer. First game I picked him back up was crazy awesome. Hard carrying as your team's main tank is so much fun. So is killing rammus and the irelia who ganked you under their turret.

Renekton ult is such a troll ability when ganked.


To be honest I kinda stopped playing Renek after the big nerf on him since he got dumped on by so many laners top.

But now that I think of that like ALL of them have been nerfed more or less. How is Renek nowadays top? Viable or still underpowered?


He's a monster
He shits in like every melee
Garen might beat him (duh) and maaaaaybe rumble but that's about it
I have nightmares about croc top


With Voyboys 21 9 0 build or something else?

I feel so bad not maxing CDR with Renek, but he runs like Bruta/Warmogs/Atmas/FoN npnp


I've seen 21-9-0 and 9-21-0 used well
Throw in Ionians and visage into that build and you're max cdr anyways
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 06:10:00
September 04 2011 06:09 GMT
#2490
Recent stuff:

Gangplank - Happier with him, changes to make playing vs him more fun are likely
Katarina - Trying to make her less binary (rape teams or get raped). Don't want her to have CC.
Mundo - Base aspd buff
Shaco - More bug fixes, maybe base stat buffs
Shen - Buffs soon
Sion - Base aspd buff
Singed - A "tiny bit" too strong
Sivir - Working on her, no buffs in upcoming patch
Skarner - Small buffs coming next patch
Tryndamere - Ult causes balance issues, but no plans to remove it

Stealth remake - More than 2 patches away

It's apparently S-champ week.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 06:21:07
September 04 2011 06:20 GMT
#2491
All they need to do to fix kat is make her ult into a fiddlesticks/morg style that cant be interrupted. And make q good in lane again. And bring back my boots+5 bloodthirster build.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 04 2011 06:22 GMT
#2492
No, they need to make her a stronger laner. She loses top, mid and bot. Also make it so you can use items/Q while in deathlotus without it canceling.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 06:35:49
September 04 2011 06:30 GMT
#2493
Honestly if they want to make her less binary than she needs to be less ult dependant, or at least her ult needs to be less of a one-trick wonder. If you remember, I forget his name but the premier Kat player back in the day, his suggestion of lowering duration and CD of Lotus so that it's more of a quick cast finisher, similar to what Riot did with Panth's HSS really.

Edit:
Her laning is sorta binary too if you think about it. She either stomps people or she does nothing, because she's only limited by cooldown. Just bad champ design atm :/
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
September 04 2011 06:42 GMT
#2494
i believe you are referring to Furor
Brees on in
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 04 2011 06:43 GMT
#2495
On September 04 2011 15:30 Southlight wrote:
Honestly if they want to make her less binary than she needs to be less ult dependant, or at least her ult needs to be less of a one-trick wonder. If you remember, I forget his name but the premier Kat player back in the day, his suggestion of lowering duration and CD of Lotus so that it's more of a quick cast finisher, similar to what Riot did with Panth's HSS really.

Edit:
Her laning is sorta binary too if you think about it. She either stomps people or she does nothing, because she's only limited by cooldown. Just bad champ design atm :/


To be fair like all champs that are limited by cooldown only (Vlad, Morde, Garen, Kat are the ones from the top of my head right now) are all the nigthmare of a balance designer. Kinda hard to make that mechanic work without making the champ horribly OP/UP.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
September 04 2011 06:47 GMT
#2496
morde actually takes a semisignificant amount of damage from using his abilities
but the shield generation mostly makes up for that
and when he gets spell vamp it's totally fixed.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 04 2011 06:56 GMT
#2497
The main one you forget is Rumble, who's also binary, but at the moment his "on" in laning is a lot more brutal.

And yeah, thanks Brees. I kept thinking Furion but that's a dota hero lol.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 04 2011 07:03 GMT
#2498
also gator
who is a fking beast to beat

yeah, no-cost skillsets (and even worse, skills that get better as you spam ala rumble and croc) are fucking bullshit. i would hate to have to try to balance that shit over all levels of play against all champs

riot just make everyone take mana jesus christ (energy is fine tho for the ninja quad)
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
September 04 2011 07:03 GMT
#2499
If they want Kat to be a fun hero they can just leave it as is with minor tweaks and just have her be a normal game stomper of some sort.

If they want to actually balance kat for competitive play without making her into a niche hero then she would need to be overhauled.

Btw, didn't westrice beat teamliquid with kat in a tournament game? l0l
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 08:11:44
September 04 2011 07:58 GMT
#2500
Sniping pros queueing normals on stream is fun.

Fuck Doublelift though. Terror cow all day. On my nuts 24/7
God Bless
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