ESL Thread - Page 80

On April 24 2011 07:09 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Are the EU hogs the old hogs?

On April 24 2011 07:15 SQWKZ wrote:
EU is only a day or two behind on the patches, zulu, zzzz.

CLG is doing really bad in teamfights. Also, did Phreak just say the global gold difference is in the favor of LLL by some thousands? WUT

On April 24 2011 06:38 Caller wrote:
clg just got cocky and underestimated the eu team and tried to play against the na meta and eu just took advantage of that

eus are still far worse than nas mechanically and strategically

On April 24 2011 07:24 starfries wrote:
Did TF actually use that revive?

On April 24 2011 06:10 Senx wrote:
CLG utterly destroyed by a EU team, who would have thought?..

"Eu scene is garbage and way behind the US meta"

I guess we'll have to wait for WCG 2011 before people actually think before generalizing

edit: Not saying EU is ahead, but the difference isnt as big as some people like to believe

On April 24 2011 07:20 Shikyo wrote:

Yah, CLG just happens to beat every single NA team and gets destroyed by random EU teams.

On April 24 2011 07:27 Caller wrote:

you have two teams.

one team has never seen a particular strategy before.
the other team has practiced this strategy over and over again.

what do you think will happen? of course the team with the special strategy wins.

mechanically, eus are worse. Strategically, (in terms of game sense and whatnot) they are also worse. However, they were fielding strategies that CLG has never seen before, and they have practiced these straetegies as well. Whereas CLG's strategy of "farm gold get money" is a pretty basic one that the EU team has seen many times before. Arranged 5s are just a different game so its not that surprising.

A 1900 EU player, however, is as bad as a 1500 US Player in terms of game sense and actual play. Were the teams not rehearsed and just a bunch of people in solo Q NA would've dominated easily just because of how strong their mechanics were.

1600 EU is still comparable to 1100 US. Just watch streams of the two and you'll see what I mean.

On April 24 2011 07:27 TheYango wrote:

Late response to this, but EU's metagame can be behind while still playing better. Just because they play with drastically better teamfight coordination than US teams (due to arranged 5s actually being competitive) doesn't make things like Wit's End rush Irelia, babysitting stupidly strong solos like Caitlyn or Urgot bottom lane, or a complete lack of counterjungling any less retarded.

On April 24 2011 07:28 Shikyo wrote:

I don't know what you mean by mechanically, but EU was actually getting more farm and lasthitting is mechanical if anything.

On April 24 2011 07:28 Shikyo wrote:
Thats the 1200-1700 elo meta that wickd uses, that Irelia for instance didn't rush Wits end, and the babysetting actually set HSGG significantly back in farm. Lack of counterjungling is true I guess, maybe they just thought it was too risky? These aren't even the best EU teams.