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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
May 27 2011 10:18 GMT
#15681
On May 27 2011 18:09 Kaniol wrote:
Wow is it just me or hotshot really dislikes Loci?

What did he do this time?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 27 2011 10:50 GMT
#15682
Hotshot just mad because he can't afk through the Dreamhack tourny like he did WCG USA last year imo.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 10:54:19
May 27 2011 10:53 GMT
#15683
On May 27 2011 19:50 Cixah wrote:
Hotshot just mad because he can't afk through the Dreamhack tourny like he did WCG USA last year imo.

He has the right to afk through it as the first seed. Don't you get it? Why do they even bother with seeding, just roll the dice instead if that's the attitude
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Belial-
Profile Joined April 2007
United States132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 10:56:51
May 27 2011 10:54 GMT
#15684
Honestly, if they have proof that the teams had a conversation about colluding they should have just disqualified both teams.

Edit: And if there is no proof they should have left well enough alone.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
May 27 2011 11:12 GMT
#15685
On May 27 2011 19:54 Belial- wrote:
Honestly, if they have proof that the teams had a conversation about colluding they should have just disqualified both teams.

Edit: And if there is no proof they should have left well enough alone.


Riot doesn't even have to DQ them. Just warn them and it's fine, no one who isn't completly insane would throw a game with all the attention this shit is receiving now.
Belial-
Profile Joined April 2007
United States132 Posts
May 27 2011 11:16 GMT
#15686
On May 27 2011 20:12 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 19:54 Belial- wrote:
Honestly, if they have proof that the teams had a conversation about colluding they should have just disqualified both teams.

Edit: And if there is no proof they should have left well enough alone.


Riot doesn't even have to DQ them. Just warn them and it's fine, no one who isn't completly insane would throw a game with all the attention this shit is receiving now.



Like I said, if there is no proof then they should have done nothing. But if a team is planning something like that it should be a DQ, it's like that in any other sport, why not here?
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
May 27 2011 11:16 GMT
#15687
On May 27 2011 20:12 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 19:54 Belial- wrote:
Honestly, if they have proof that the teams had a conversation about colluding they should have just disqualified both teams.

Edit: And if there is no proof they should have left well enough alone.


Riot doesn't even have to DQ them. Just warn them and it's fine, no one who isn't completly insane would throw a game with all the attention this shit is receiving now.

Match-fixing so ez in LOL, just miss 10 CS early game and its over.
JL13
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1384 Posts
May 27 2011 11:26 GMT
#15688
sigh... need to rant a little...

Combination of bad play on my part and the teams i've been with tonight = 5 straight losses.

Rules I must begin enforcing upon myself...

1) never let 5th pick solo
2) ranged DPS in sidelane needs support or a smart support who doesn't contest CS

Seriously... you figure... if a team is down pretty badly... they would play more passively. but NOPE opposite day apparently was today so my team 4v5s the enemy's baron buff and proceeds to team fight everywhere except our own towers and base. I just don't understand. Ranked play is like... worse than pubs at times. I'm curious what the average age of people playing is.... maybe like 14... because they never learn! It's so intuitive, too. Hrm... I'm down by a lot, maybe I should let my towers help me win this next team fight.

I feel so upset/pissed off right now. The grind to higher elo is sooo annoying. My janna win % is like 81... maybe I should just stick to playing her.... Anyone around 1500 elo and wanna duo queue? Wanna hit 2k+ so badly to play against good people for once...

PM me in game or on TL.net
Favorite Progamers in order: JangBi, Kwanro, Really, DarkElf
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 11:40:36
May 27 2011 11:36 GMT
#15689
On May 27 2011 18:23 -Kato- wrote:
In a jungler runepage (Noc and Xin), what is better:

15%AS+10Arpen or 10%AS+15Arpen?

I mean, what to put in marks and what in quints.


Sacrificing early jungle speed (aka AS) for harder ganks after the 2nd run and more dmg through all mid-lategame (ArPen) is 100% worth it whenever you can afford it.

And yes, im a total oddone fanboy on this one. This includes full ArPen on junglers like Xin, Yi, Olaf, Trundle, Nocturne and the AS/Arpen mix on like Amumu, Rammus, Cho, Warwick (he NEEDS the speed) and Nunu.

Edit: IF you want to use AS and ArPen you want 12 ArPen to do true damage to the small golems and the rest in AS. Make sure to adjust this in case you run offensive mastery. You want to -somehow- have 12 ArPen at lvl 1, everything else is overkill in this scenario.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
May 27 2011 11:43 GMT
#15690
On May 27 2011 20:26 JL13 wrote:
sigh... need to rant a little...

Combination of bad play on my part and the teams i've been with tonight = 5 straight losses.

Rules I must begin enforcing upon myself...

1) never let 5th pick solo
2) ranged DPS in sidelane needs support or a smart support who doesn't contest CS

Seriously... you figure... if a team is down pretty badly... they would play more passively. but NOPE opposite day apparently was today so my team 4v5s the enemy's baron buff and proceeds to team fight everywhere except our own towers and base. I just don't understand. Ranked play is like... worse than pubs at times. I'm curious what the average age of people playing is.... maybe like 14... because they never learn! It's so intuitive, too. Hrm... I'm down by a lot, maybe I should let my towers help me win this next team fight.

I feel so upset/pissed off right now. The grind to higher elo is sooo annoying. My janna win % is like 81... maybe I should just stick to playing her.... Anyone around 1500 elo and wanna duo queue? Wanna hit 2k+ so badly to play against good people for once...

PM me in game or on TL.net


The #1 and only answer to this:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=452151
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 12:04:51
May 27 2011 11:57 GMT
#15691
Kerp 2080 elo and gave me some tips:

"pick annie kill everything in 1 combo"

EDIT: His profile has 2k+ elo ranked games with Annie with records like 20-8 9-1 9-3 12-4 and his personal comment "annie just broken"

Another kerp pro strat "I just am insane so they think I have a plan and run when I actually don't have a plan at all"

=) Now go get 2k elo with this pro advice
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
May 27 2011 12:05 GMT
#15692
Skihyo are you in love in this kerp guy? You keep talking about him and telling how pro is he...
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 27 2011 12:13 GMT
#15693
On May 27 2011 21:05 Kaniol wrote:
Skihyo are you in love in this kerp guy? You keep talking about him and telling how pro is he...

So if Yiruru or someone gave you advice you won't talk about it? o_o Are you jealous
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Belial-
Profile Joined April 2007
United States132 Posts
May 27 2011 12:21 GMT
#15694
On May 27 2011 21:13 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 21:05 Kaniol wrote:
Skihyo are you in love in this kerp guy? You keep talking about him and telling how pro is he...

So if Yiruru or someone gave you advice you won't talk about it? o_o Are you jealous



Pretty sure everyone who plays in LiquidParty regularly has gotten advice from quite a few 2k players at some point...
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 27 2011 12:25 GMT
#15695
On May 27 2011 20:57 Shikyo wrote:
Kerp 2080 elo and gave me some tips:

"pick annie kill everything in 1 combo"

EDIT: His profile has 2k+ elo ranked games with Annie with records like 20-8 9-1 9-3 12-4 and his personal comment "annie just broken"

Another kerp pro strat "I just am insane so they think I have a plan and run when I actually don't have a plan at all"

=) Now go get 2k elo with this pro advice

Okay? TheOddOne has been saying this since even before the Annie buffs.
:)
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 12:31:14
May 27 2011 12:27 GMT
#15696
edited: not adding anything constructive
washed
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 12:32:10
May 27 2011 12:29 GMT
#15697
On May 27 2011 11:43 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 09:33 MoonBear wrote:
On May 27 2011 09:17 yenta wrote:
Whats up with the HotShotGG q.q about another team getting an unfair advatage for dreamhack? qualifiers? anyone know?

Epik Gaming was suspected of wanting to throw their game against TSM. So the brackets got changed last minute as a result, which undermines CLG's right as #1 seed to play the worst team in the top 8.

Instead of:
CLG (#1 Seed) v WHALE (#8 Seed), TSM (#2 Seed) v Epik Gaming (#7 Seed)

It's now:
CLG (#1 Seed) v Epik Gaming (#7 Seed), TSM (#2 Seed) v WHALE (#8 Seed)

CLG is upset because of the sudden rule changes that undermine the integrity of the tournament, especially because Dreamhack Rules is that you can only have a 5 player team so CLG has to bench someone for the entire of Dreamhack from what I understand. Especially as this was a last minute change with no contact with Marcou and the E-Sports Team. Also doesn't stop a potential EG v TSM at Dreamhack itself. There's also no proof of EG wanting to throw in the first place.


Because Dyrus doesn't realize there are some things he probably shouldn't stream LOL... he just streams like all his private team business and other weird shit =/
It was said on his stream that they would get Westrice if they threw their first game (right?)


Actually yeah, I was watching the stream for that for that. I didn't make the connection in my head that they were talking about dreamhack. But there were other deals they were discussing and though I believe they decided to go with Westrice if my memory serves me right I don't think it meant they went with the throw-a-game plan. There were at least 2 more players than Westrice involved with the player trading and they wanted 2 more players to replace some crummy ones they had.

In any case Riot still handled this poorly. Giving TSM such an advantage just for the sake of avoiding the possibility of a thrown game is ridiculous, there are other options you can take.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 27 2011 12:53 GMT
#15698
On May 27 2011 21:29 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 11:43 unichan wrote:
On May 27 2011 09:33 MoonBear wrote:
On May 27 2011 09:17 yenta wrote:
Whats up with the HotShotGG q.q about another team getting an unfair advatage for dreamhack? qualifiers? anyone know?

Epik Gaming was suspected of wanting to throw their game against TSM. So the brackets got changed last minute as a result, which undermines CLG's right as #1 seed to play the worst team in the top 8.

Instead of:
CLG (#1 Seed) v WHALE (#8 Seed), TSM (#2 Seed) v Epik Gaming (#7 Seed)

It's now:
CLG (#1 Seed) v Epik Gaming (#7 Seed), TSM (#2 Seed) v WHALE (#8 Seed)

CLG is upset because of the sudden rule changes that undermine the integrity of the tournament, especially because Dreamhack Rules is that you can only have a 5 player team so CLG has to bench someone for the entire of Dreamhack from what I understand. Especially as this was a last minute change with no contact with Marcou and the E-Sports Team. Also doesn't stop a potential EG v TSM at Dreamhack itself. There's also no proof of EG wanting to throw in the first place.


Because Dyrus doesn't realize there are some things he probably shouldn't stream LOL... he just streams like all his private team business and other weird shit =/
It was said on his stream that they would get Westrice if they threw their first game (right?)


Actually yeah, I was watching the stream for that for that. I didn't make the connection in my head that they were talking about dreamhack. But there were other deals they were discussing and though I believe they decided to go with Westrice if my memory serves me right I don't think it meant they went with the throw-a-game plan. There were at least 2 more players than Westrice involved with the player trading and they wanted 2 more players to replace some crummy ones they had.

In any case Riot still handled this poorly. Giving TSM such an advantage just for the sake of avoiding the possibility of a thrown game is ridiculous, there are other options you can take.

Yeah, it was Hai L9 and some other guy they were kicking off and they were discussing whether to pick up Lapakaa (so they would have a strong jungler) or to take up an offer from TSM that they would get Westrice in exchange for EG throwing the first round game... I actually don't even know if they were talking about dreamhack tbh but I was cheering in my head for them to pick up Lapakaa the whole time and not be like pushovers or whatever and throw a game because that's just srsly stupid as fuck
:)
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 27 2011 12:55 GMT
#15699
The fact that they changed it means they care about the "integrity" of the tourney. These are still the top 8 teams regardless of how its handled. While I'm sure the first bracket would have been better, its still going to be harder for TSM to get through this because they aren't getting a supposed thrown game.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 27 2011 12:57 GMT
#15700
Honestly they should have let them play the game and watched it to see if it was in fact a thrown game. I'm not sure how they'd do this because I guess EG could just claim they were playing badly that one game, but the idea of throwing a game annoys me so much. =( I guess it's just cause I'm a lowly viewer and I don't understand the complicated politics of high elo and e-sports and competitive play :<
:)
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