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ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 00:35:02
May 27 2011 00:32 GMT
#15641
On May 27 2011 05:27 Shikyo wrote:
What build do you use with the current gangplank? I assume kind of tanky, maybe after Youmu? Do you build triforce?

I do the same build I use with old Gplank. 2 philo, 3 hog -> CDR boots -> Warmog -> IE -> Atma -> Triforce/FoN. I max W first and I take Teleport/Exhaust.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 00:46:12
May 27 2011 00:33 GMT
#15642
On May 27 2011 09:17 yenta wrote:
Whats up with the HotShotGG q.q about another team getting an unfair advatage for dreamhack? qualifiers? anyone know?

Epik Gaming was suspected of wanting to throw their game against TSM. So the brackets got changed last minute as a result, which undermines CLG's right as #1 seed to play the worst team in the top 8.

Instead of:
CLG (#1 Seed) v WHALE (#8 Seed), TSM (#2 Seed) v Epik Gaming (#7 Seed)

It's now:
CLG (#1 Seed) v Epik Gaming (#7 Seed), TSM (#2 Seed) v WHALE (#8 Seed)

CLG is upset because of the sudden rule changes that undermine the integrity of the tournament, especially because Dreamhack Rules is that you can only have a 5 player team so CLG has to bench someone for the entire of Dreamhack from what I understand. Especially as this was a last minute change with no contact with Marcou and the E-Sports Team. Also doesn't stop a potential EG v TSM at Dreamhack itself. There's also no proof of EG wanting to throw in the first place.

On May 26 2011 21:49 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 19:35 Shikyo wrote:
On May 26 2011 19:25 Nikon wrote:
On May 26 2011 19:20 Kaniol wrote:
On May 26 2011 18:37 Nikon wrote:
Anyone playing on EU that wants to refer me? I'm thinking of starting a smurf account there.

You can refer EU people from US accounts and vice versa. When i went for 10x lvl5 accounts i smurfed both on the US and EU servers


Good to know. But isn't smurfing 10 accounts to level 5 for a 3150 IP champion a bit useless? I mean, if you play the amount of games required to do so on your own account, surely, you'll have gotten more IP by the end of it?

You get a 6300 IP champion, or more accurately, 975 RP that you can also use on skins or anything else. In addition, you get 40 per-win IP bonuses, which are about 150 IP each which is another 6000 IP.

Getting to lvl 5 requires only 5-6 wins depending on game lenght, or if you lose a bit you can get lvl 5 with a record like 4-3 as well.

Wtf, really?
Do they ip check to see if you refered yourself?

Riot has measures to check if you're massing smurfs for referrals bonuses. I can't confirm how the details of the fraud checking measures work for obvious reasons, but for the most part, the CS only take action against really big offenders and smurfing through deception so I doubt you'd get banned if you made a very small number. But don't quote me on this; upcoming rules changes might be retroactive.

I do know of bans before, but generally they were for serious offenders. Not sure if they've ever taken away RP or whatever from your account.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 27 2011 00:41 GMT
#15643
Sooooooo. Someone explain why marcou still has a job?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 27 2011 00:55 GMT
#15644
Obviously because he does his job so well and all. Just like all the people who work at my college. =)
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
May 27 2011 00:59 GMT
#15645
HOW IS TL DOING VS JPAK!!!
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 27 2011 01:03 GMT
#15646
Jpak real cool team. They get smurfs and kick Jpak (who was 1400) 2 games from the tourney being over. We lost game 1 pretty badly, game 2 should be better. It's weird that they would get a good team at the very end of the tourney with literally 0 chance of them placing top 6.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 01:32:54
May 27 2011 01:27 GMT
#15647
HotshotGG should be banned already like Reginald last year...for being bad manner or rasist against Koreans. HotshotGG already received alot special treatment from Riot, why make big drama of this shit.

i'm not saying Riot is doing a good job, but being a "professional" player, your job a playing games, not to be a drama queen, if you got problem, just contact Riot privately.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
May 27 2011 01:57 GMT
#15648
='(
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
May 27 2011 02:02 GMT
#15649
On May 27 2011 10:27 emucxg wrote:
HotshotGG should be banned already like Reginald last year...for being bad manner or rasist against Koreans. HotshotGG already received alot special treatment from Riot, why make big drama of this shit.

To be fair, almost every time he rages about Koreans it's just on stream and not in-game ... I'm not sure Riot could justify banning Hotshot from their game for out-of-game actions.
We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 02:40:22
May 27 2011 02:37 GMT
#15650
The best part is Riot's response.

Our response to the conflict of interest presented to us was not a kneejerk reaction; we considered input from teams and debated choices between Marcou and myself. We could not ban a team based on speculation and switching the #7 and #8 seed presented what we consider the best option.

Dreamhack qualifiers represent those that are at the pinnacle of skill in their region. Seeding is a matter of perception and regardless of seed a team must prove they are a top three team to attend the finals; this includes who they play in the first round.

We stand by our seeding but acknowledge your concern, again this decision has nothing to do with TSM or CLG, integrity in eSports is a paramount concern.


How can seeding be a matter of perception?

Riot thinks TSM is colluding with EG.
Solution? Reward TSM, punish CLG; invalidate the entire season circuit. :/
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 02:44:03
May 27 2011 02:43 GMT
#15651
On May 27 2011 09:33 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 09:17 yenta wrote:
Whats up with the HotShotGG q.q about another team getting an unfair advatage for dreamhack? qualifiers? anyone know?

Epik Gaming was suspected of wanting to throw their game against TSM. So the brackets got changed last minute as a result, which undermines CLG's right as #1 seed to play the worst team in the top 8.

Instead of:
CLG (#1 Seed) v WHALE (#8 Seed), TSM (#2 Seed) v Epik Gaming (#7 Seed)

It's now:
CLG (#1 Seed) v Epik Gaming (#7 Seed), TSM (#2 Seed) v WHALE (#8 Seed)

CLG is upset because of the sudden rule changes that undermine the integrity of the tournament, especially because Dreamhack Rules is that you can only have a 5 player team so CLG has to bench someone for the entire of Dreamhack from what I understand. Especially as this was a last minute change with no contact with Marcou and the E-Sports Team. Also doesn't stop a potential EG v TSM at Dreamhack itself. There's also no proof of EG wanting to throw in the first place.

Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 21:49 HazMat wrote:
On May 26 2011 19:35 Shikyo wrote:
On May 26 2011 19:25 Nikon wrote:
On May 26 2011 19:20 Kaniol wrote:
On May 26 2011 18:37 Nikon wrote:
Anyone playing on EU that wants to refer me? I'm thinking of starting a smurf account there.

You can refer EU people from US accounts and vice versa. When i went for 10x lvl5 accounts i smurfed both on the US and EU servers


Good to know. But isn't smurfing 10 accounts to level 5 for a 3150 IP champion a bit useless? I mean, if you play the amount of games required to do so on your own account, surely, you'll have gotten more IP by the end of it?

You get a 6300 IP champion, or more accurately, 975 RP that you can also use on skins or anything else. In addition, you get 40 per-win IP bonuses, which are about 150 IP each which is another 6000 IP.

Getting to lvl 5 requires only 5-6 wins depending on game lenght, or if you lose a bit you can get lvl 5 with a record like 4-3 as well.

Wtf, really?
Do they ip check to see if you refered yourself?

Riot has measures to check if you're massing smurfs for referrals bonuses. I can't confirm how the details of the fraud checking measures work for obvious reasons, but for the most part, the CS only take action against really big offenders and smurfing through deception so I doubt you'd get banned if you made a very small number. But don't quote me on this; upcoming rules changes might be retroactive.

I do know of bans before, but generally they were for serious offenders. Not sure if they've ever taken away RP or whatever from your account.

Because Dyrus doesn't realize there are some things he probably shouldn't stream LOL... he just streams like all his private team business and other weird shit =/
It was said on his stream that they would get Westrice if they threw their first game (right?)
:)
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
May 27 2011 02:43 GMT
#15652
On May 27 2011 11:37 dnastyx wrote:
Riot thinks TSM is colluding with EG.


Negative ghostrider. They believe they COULD collude. That is all.
Aurdon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2007 Posts
May 27 2011 03:20 GMT
#15653
This is one of the sillier rulings I have ever seen.

This would be like MLG thinking Ret and Tyler might collude in the group stages so they put them in different groups. This giving Liquid and even better shot at making the finals because of the lesser chance of a team kill.


I do not understand this logic at all by Riot. Once again, I'm thinking their 'esports' divsion is really lacking.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 27 2011 03:35 GMT
#15654
redditers are soooooooooooo bad
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 27 2011 03:58 GMT
#15655
On May 27 2011 12:35 zulu_nation8 wrote:
redditers are soooooooooooo bad

I think that annie may have been worse at annie than I am

which is very very hard to be
:)
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
May 27 2011 04:32 GMT
#15656
Fucking EH -_- just had to post this in honor of idiot players everywhere.
Never Knows Best.
Loomies
Profile Joined July 2010
United States645 Posts
May 27 2011 04:36 GMT
#15657
On May 27 2011 10:27 emucxg wrote:
HotshotGG should be banned already like Reginald last year...for being bad manner or rasist against Koreans. HotshotGG already received alot special treatment from Riot, why make big drama of this shit.

i'm not saying Riot is doing a good job, but being a "professional" player, your job a playing games, not to be a drama queen, if you got problem, just contact Riot privately.


He tried contacting them for 3 days and only got one response from numerous contacts. That one contact told him to contact someone else. This is the most absurd thing I ever witness in my esport viewing career. How can you change a bracket seed team over "suspicion"
Loomies
Profile Joined July 2010
United States645 Posts
May 27 2011 04:40 GMT
#15658
"Because the #7 team EG is actually considered to be top 4 containing an all-star team of solo que players in the very top of the ranks. They in the last week or so were destroying #2 TSM in scrims that many of us witnessed. They had lower qualifying points because they really didn't do anything until the very end of the season.

WHALE who is seeded #8 is actually NOT EVEN COMPETITIVE anymore at all and basically not really a top 8 team at all. In fact they aren't even really a team at this point but qualified for the tournament anyways because of earlier qualifying.

So CLG earned #1 seeding and got lucky with the draw of WHALE as #8. Whereas #2 TSM was set to have to play against #7 EG (who is really a top 4 team that has recently dominated scrims against TSM)

TSM and EG each have a Dinh brother on their team and supposedly RIOT got a report of "rumors" that EG was going to throw their first game for TSM because of the brother connection.

So instead of RIOT warning TSM and EG, and the brothers, that cheating and intentional game throwing will not be tolerated and be disqualifiable, they instead moved WHALE to seed #7 and EG to seed #8. Thus CLG has now moved from a first game gimme to a MUCH HARDER first game against EG. TSM (involved in apparent rumor of collusion) now gets the gimme game against WHALE.

BUT THERE'S MORE. The top half of the bracket now contains 3 of whats considered to be the top 4 teams (CLG, EG, Rock Solid) and TSM in the bottom half of the bracket now has to play none of the considered top 4 teams until the very final rounds.

RIOT wants to talk about integrity, respect, and professionalism in this tournament. But since when have you ever seen established seeded brackets switched around on "rumors" and now those brackets seem to HEAVILY FAVOR one of the teams (TSM) that was involved in the "rumors" of cheating and collusion.

SOMETHING IS FISHY"
great post from the LoL forum
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
May 27 2011 04:48 GMT
#15659
From what I've heard, it's not fishy. It's just Riot being super duper extra special incompetent.

Somebody should compile a comprehensive list of Marcou's contributions to Riot.
But why?
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
May 27 2011 04:55 GMT
#15660
Where is the list of all top 8 teams? Couldn't find it.

As for Marcou, well, I wish I had his job. Easiest job in the world.
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