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Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
April 05 2011 20:42 GMT
#11521
There was a bug with the Own3d streaming app that didn't affect people who stayed logged in, which happened to be Hotshot. Until they fixed it, the 25k viewers were because he was one of the few people able to stream.
Loomies
Profile Joined July 2010
United States645 Posts
April 05 2011 20:47 GMT
#11522
What happened to grand judge? he just moved on from LoL?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 20:49:17
April 05 2011 20:49 GMT
#11523
On April 06 2011 05:47 Loomies wrote:
What happened to grand judge? he just moved on from LoL?


Causality to Cataclysm.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Loomies
Profile Joined July 2010
United States645 Posts
April 05 2011 20:50 GMT
#11524
Also it's crazy in CLgaming IRC chat. 2.2k people >_>
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
April 05 2011 21:09 GMT
#11525
On April 06 2011 05:40 Mogwai wrote:
real thread:

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=633718


I think this is pretty big news. And wtf Renekton being the closest thing to an AD caster, hes as tanky as can be, did Riot forget about Pantheon again? Yes, they are talking about tanky DPS but how is Renek an AD caster.

Also Warwick doesnt rely on AD to work for example, this is gonna be tough to balance IMO.
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
April 05 2011 21:12 GMT
#11526
They said Renek was an AD caster because most of his damage came from abilities rather than auto-attacking.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 21:15:28
April 05 2011 21:13 GMT
#11527
On April 06 2011 05:40 Mogwai wrote:
real thread:

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=633718

I don't think damage is the issue really. Jarvan/Irelia/Renekton's baseline damage isn't out of whack on average targets. It's just that they have the kit to be hitting squishies 100% of the time, which is why they seem to kill so fast.

They effectively put the mobility of a traditional squishy anti-carry like Poppy or Leblanc onto a beefy champ that's much harder to focus down.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 05 2011 21:20 GMT
#11528
Talking about attaching 2-3AD ratios on abilities still makes me want to bludgeon myself to death with a rusty shovel. It's like they learned nothing from the Pantheon debacles.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
April 05 2011 21:21 GMT
#11529
On April 06 2011 06:12 Flakes wrote:
They said Renek was an AD caster because most of his damage came from abilities rather than auto-attacking.


I guess but... he can build pure tank and still have decent damage, like Jarvan. I feel its like calling Amumu an AP caster.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
April 05 2011 21:33 GMT
#11530
I miss when abilities scaled off of ability power.
We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
April 05 2011 21:37 GMT
#11531
On April 06 2011 06:21 -Kato- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 06:12 Flakes wrote:
They said Renek was an AD caster because most of his damage came from abilities rather than auto-attacking.


I guess but... he can build pure tank and still have decent damage, like Jarvan. I feel its like calling Amumu an AP caster.

He actually is Tanky AP caster
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
April 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#11532
Why are they starting with renekton instead of gangplank, who is pretty much already an AD caster?
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
April 05 2011 22:21 GMT
#11533
On April 06 2011 06:20 Mogwai wrote:
Talking about attaching 2-3AD ratios on abilities still makes me want to bludgeon myself to death with a rusty shovel. It's like they learned nothing from the Pantheon debacles.

Riot's just plotting to get everyone drop tons of IP on AD/L runes.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 05 2011 22:22 GMT
#11534
On April 06 2011 06:33 crate wrote:
I miss when abilities scaled off of ability power.


what is this "ability power" of which you speak? i only know what triforce is
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
April 05 2011 22:31 GMT
#11535
On April 06 2011 07:12 Phrost wrote:
Why are they starting with renekton instead of gangplank, who is pretty much already an AD caster?

Because GP is an ashe of AD casters!
More seriously - i think it's because the most common build is squishyplank which isn't tanky so Riot doesn't consider him a problem
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
April 05 2011 22:31 GMT
#11536
In theory the higher AD ratios are balanced by even weaker laning phases and the need for tanky DPS to build tanky items or be just as squishy as anyone else. In practice who the hell cares build pure AD and one shot the enemy team when you and your tanky DPS buddies initiate.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
April 05 2011 22:37 GMT
#11537
Lee Sin buffed today: http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=634204

Hey folks,

We were able to get some of our Lee Sin buffs in without a patch using a server-side hotfix. The changes are as follow:

Sonic Wave/Resonating Strike AD ratio increase to 1.0 from 0.8
Tempest/Cripple AD ratio increased to 1.0 from 0.6
Dragon's Rage AD ratio increased to 2.0 from 1.5
Flurry's Energy restoration increased to 15 from 10.

Other changes (such as Q missile fixes) have to wait for a full patch, but we wanted to get what we could out now. Enjoy!
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 22:38:08
April 05 2011 22:37 GMT
#11538
Hotshot covering the minimap with a CLG logo. Not the best of advertisements: CLG is an annoyance for me now.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#11539
On April 06 2011 06:20 Mogwai wrote:
Talking about attaching 2-3AD ratios on abilities still makes me want to bludgeon myself to death with a rusty shovel. It's like they learned nothing from the Pantheon debacles.


Or the garen one lol
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
April 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#11540
On April 06 2011 07:37 spinesheath wrote:
Hotshot covering the minimap with a CLG logo. Not the best of advertisements: CLG is an annoyance for me now.

He did that because the Morde on the other team was ghosting his stream (or at least it seemed so).

I agree it's a real turnoff for watching the stream though.
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